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20141101 00:00:07< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you declare SDL_SavePNG_RW in your hedaer yourself? isnt it declared in teh sdl headers ?
20141101 00:01:01< gfgtdf> iceiceice: is SDL_SavePNG_RW new in sdl2 ?
20141101 00:02:15< iceiceice> i imported a library someone made
20141101 00:02:18< iceiceice> to support it in SDL 1.2
20141101 00:02:34< iceiceice> its not really a library, its just a handful of functions
20141101 00:02:47< iceiceice> it uses libpng to save sdl surfaces as pngs
20141101 00:03:21< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hmm ok, im sure i somehow have libpng since i have a lob called ...png ... .dll but appeareantly i have no headers
20141101 00:05:41< iceiceice> yeah you need it to link to sdl_image
20141101 00:05:47< iceiceice> at run time
20141101 00:05:51< iceiceice> and also to build some of the tools
20141101 00:06:02< iceiceice> but until this you didn't need the header at compiletime for main wesnoth
20141101 00:06:19< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i'll try to download teh header somewhere
20141101 00:06:35< iceiceice> did your libs come from MS?
20141101 00:09:01< gfgtdf> iceiceice: the dlls ? idk who build them, they come from i have a "libpng14-14.dll" and a "libpng12-0.dll" downloaded from the wesnoth dependencies for windows page, appereantly 2 different dependencied of wesnoth (mybe sdl and cairo) use 2 differnt versions of libpng.
20141101 00:09:39< iceiceice> haha
20141101 00:09:42< gfgtdf> iceiceice: shich confuses me becasue accoring ato libogns homepage neigher versions 12 nor 14 exist
20141101 00:09:46< gfgtdf> which*
20141101 00:10:10< iceiceice> y it can be seriously confusing...
20141101 00:10:26< iceiceice> i wish that the headers and dll's were in the same file, it would avoid many problems...
20141101 00:10:41< iceiceice> *if the dll's included a copy of header or something
20141101 00:16:38< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok i ahev teh header from a GTK+ package, but it seems teh that package doesnt contain a .dll file onyl some stragne dll.a file so i wonder whether it is compatible with my .dll file
20141101 00:17:43< gfgtdf> iceiceice: teh compiler gives me: ..\..\src\SDL_SavePNG\savepng.cpp(13): warning C4005: 'ERROR': Makro-Neudefinition
20141101 00:19:36< iceiceice> hmm
20141101 00:20:28< iceiceice> does it tell you where the previous definition is?
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20141101 00:25:12< ancestral> iceiceice: I’m probably going to have to wait until I get home. Work wi-fi is being a little unreliable
20141101 00:25:29< ancestral> I’ll update you sometime late late tonight
20141101 00:25:33< ancestral> (if you’re around)
20141101 00:27:03< gfgtdf> iceiceice: no it doesnt
20141101 00:27:38< iceiceice> ancestral: ok thanks
20141101 00:29:32< iceiceice> gfgtdf: maybe just replacing the words success and error with "SAVEPNG_SUCCESS" and "SAVEPNG_ERROR" will do it
20141101 00:29:45< iceiceice> its kind of dumb for him to define macros of such common words
20141101 00:30:23< ancestral> shadowm: If we had a Developer of the Month award, I’ve got my vote ready to cast
20141101 00:35:27< mattsc> ancestral: yeah, but it would go to the same 2 or 3 people every month!
20141101 00:35:35< ancestral> Hehe
20141101 00:35:50< ancestral> Or maybe
20141101 00:36:09< ancestral> It should be like a Championship Belt
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20141101 00:36:34< ancestral> Where they previous winner has to defend their award
20141101 00:37:17< ancestral> *the
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20141101 00:37:32< ancestral> mattsc: Of course I’d never win
20141101 00:37:33< mattsc> :)
20141101 00:37:54< ancestral> Nah it’d probably stir up some emotions
20141101 00:38:06< mattsc> I’d only win by outrunning the opponents until they collapse
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20141101 01:04:17< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok i faiinly managed to compile (somehow it took visual sutio a while to notice my new lib ), What do i have to do to test it ?
20141101 01:04:35< iceiceice> hmm
20141101 01:04:46< iceiceice> so if you know how to use the screenshot dialog i guess that will work (i don't)
20141101 01:04:54< iceiceice> if you use command line
20141101 01:05:00< iceiceice> and make it save a screenshot that should work
20141101 01:05:03< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i tried the "map map screenshot" but thatd oesnt aks me for a filename
20141101 01:05:17< gfgtdf> s/map map/map
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20141101 01:05:27< iceiceice> or if you use --render-image function i made
20141101 01:06:13< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/RELEASE_NOTES#L64
20141101 01:06:19< iceiceice> if the file extension is "bmp" it should still give bmp
20141101 01:06:23< iceiceice> otherwise it should give png now
20141101 01:06:35< iceiceice> also the png should actually have alpha
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20141101 01:11:05< iceiceice> it works for me anyways
20141101 01:11:34< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 43c54fc75a09 / src/ (SDL_SavePNG/savepng.h image.cpp): fixup SavePNG uses to use our filesystem functions http://git.io/VNbM_w
20141101 01:11:36< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 841dcc32de3e / src/display.cpp: remove unneeded include http://git.io/ZYZEjw
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20141101 01:12:11< iceiceice> gfgtdf: do you change those macro names or should i do it on master?
20141101 01:13:59< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i'd be happy if you do it
20141101 01:14:08< iceiceice> ok
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20141101 01:17:55< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 246abc638111 / src/SDL_SavePNG/savepng.cpp: rename some macro constants to less common names in SDL_SavePNG cpp http://git.io/8OZD4A
20141101 01:19:20< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm now wesnoth.exe doesnt even start normaly on the (_͡°_͜ʖ_͡°)_Ä_¥_∀⣟ path
20141101 01:19:40< iceiceice> on master?
20141101 01:19:42< iceiceice> i'll try mingw also
20141101 01:19:44< gfgtdf> iceiceice: also it seems like stderr.txt never worked on such paths
20141101 01:19:47< gfgtdf> iceiceice: yes on master
20141101 01:20:28< gfgtdf> iceiceice: a version from 25.10 does work that latest does not
20141101 01:20:37< gfgtdf> the*
20141101 01:21:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: wait
20141101 01:22:09< gfgtdf> iceiceice: did you add a dependency on that data/ (e.g. a new gui2 dialog/widget) ?
20141101 01:22:36< iceiceice> i added a widget in xbrz
20141101 01:22:39< iceiceice> err
20141101 01:22:40< iceiceice> a window
20141101 01:22:45< iceiceice> i think i added to scons i dont remember
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20141101 01:23:20< iceiceice> theres a new file here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/0442e6514a9e57df5296bea7c566089ed536fe7a
20141101 01:23:26< iceiceice> in data
20141101 01:23:36< iceiceice> well thers several new files there
20141101 01:25:03< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok that was the problem, (well teh real problem is stderr.txt doesnt work on unicode paths so i cannot know what the problem is)
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20141101 01:25:41< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok i can veryfy that the previous SDL_SavePNG_RW(surface, SDL_RWFromFile(file, "wb"), 1) implementation also wokr on windows with rare unicode characters
20141101 01:25:50< gfgtdf> verify
20141101 01:28:08< iceiceice> ok
20141101 01:28:15< iceiceice> i didnt test mingw though
20141101 01:55:21< shadowm> Huh. Wasn't there a newer spriteset for the Tentacle of the Deep posted a while ago?
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20141101 01:57:48< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4535 (master - 841dcc3 : Chris Beck): The build was broken.
20141101 01:57:48< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39661163
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20141101 02:04:50< irker609> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master b0e6b23a9180 / src/ (76 files in 6 dirs): move code to game_initialization folder http://git.io/lHc9GA
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20141101 02:08:35< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39661359
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20141101 02:43:38< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4537 (master - b0e6b23 : gfgtdf): The build is still failing.
20141101 02:43:38< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39662858
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20141101 02:44:58< gfgtdf> iceiceice: did you see teh travis error ?
20141101 02:45:00< gfgtdf> the*
20141101 02:45:39< iceiceice> no
20141101 02:46:09< iceiceice> gah
20141101 02:46:19< iceiceice> well i guess this was a case where gcc is more strict than clang
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20141101 02:51:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: gcc doesnt liek this comment https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/841dcc32de3ebc7a05a4029d9261cbc209f5b333/src/SDL_SavePNG/savepng.h#L16
20141101 02:51:52< iceiceice> yeah i see it
20141101 02:51:53< iceiceice> i will fix
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20141101 03:19:59< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 3a8cad8ad237 / src/SDL_SavePNG/savepng.h: fix gcc compilation http://git.io/fbnXhw
20141101 03:20:01< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 9c6ad9c9d337 / src/ (76 files in 6 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/AZd8pw
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20141101 03:42:52< mattsc> Trying to compile on 10.10 …
20141101 03:43:04< mattsc> iceiceice, gfggtdf: man, you guys are a PITA !
20141101 03:43:09< mattsc> :D
20141101 03:43:21< mattsc> * gfgtdf 
20141101 03:47:29< iceiceice> mattsc: if someone figured out how to make cmake project file generation work,
20141101 03:47:42< iceiceice> so we dont have to update 5 lists everytime theres a new file,
20141101 03:47:58< iceiceice> it wouldnt' be a problem and i would gladly maintain the cmake
20141101 03:48:17< iceiceice> but otherwise yeah its gonna be a pita i think XD
20141101 03:48:26< mattsc> iceiceice: sounds like you just volunteered.  ;)
20141101 03:48:38< iceiceice> no, Ivanovic told me it doesn't work
20141101 03:48:59< mattsc> and you believe him?
20141101 03:49:02< iceiceice> yes
20141101 03:49:07< mattsc> rats !
20141101 03:49:54< mattsc> But the other aspect of this (not directed at you) is that Xcode is telling me this:
20141101 03:50:21< mattsc> “Project Wesnoth | Configuration Debug | Destiantion My Mac 
20141101 03:50:34< mattsc> | SDK 10.10"
20141101 03:50:54< mattsc> And that even though I am still using 10.9.
20141101 03:51:22< mattsc> Hmm, tadvanced_graphics_options() error ...
20141101 03:51:31< mattsc> Now where is that defined?
20141101 03:53:34< mattsc> found it
20141101 03:53:41< mattsc> and now it’s complaining about xrbz ...
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20141101 03:53:58< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4538 (master - 9c6ad9c : Chris Beck): The build is still failing.
20141101 03:53:58< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39665383
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20141101 03:55:02< iceiceice> mattsc: yeah there's two new folders, SDL_Savepng and xbrz
20141101 03:55:31< mattsc> iceiceice: yeah, I know … :)
20141101 03:55:49< mattsc> Xcode didn’t complain about SDL_Savepng though.  How come?
20141101 03:56:32< mattsc> And it did compile and play music and even show graphics that kind of look right
20141101 03:56:45< mattsc> And all of that using Yosemite SDKs even though I am on Mavericks.
20141101 03:56:57< mattsc> Whoever came up with those stupid names anyway ?!?
20141101 03:59:13< mattsc> iceiceice: actually, that is disturbing.  It compiled just fine and is running just fine without me having added savepng.  What’s up with that?
20141101 03:59:24< iceiceice> oh
20141101 03:59:37< iceiceice> its another "intelligent compile" thing,
20141101 03:59:56< iceiceice> i set up scons and cmake to define "HAVE_LIBPNG" if you have lib png,
20141101 04:00:01< iceiceice> if you dont it ignores the new code
20141101 04:00:03< mattsc> well, quite obviously it is more intelligent than I am !
20141101 04:00:15< iceiceice> idk maybe its poorly thought out
20141101 04:00:18< mattsc> I do have libpng
20141101 04:00:39< iceiceice> ok maybe it should be crapping out error messages "MATTSC FIX ME PLEASEEE"
20141101 04:00:47< mattsc> libpng16.16.dylib
20141101 04:01:14< iceiceice> :) if you want to compile the save png feature, i guess you ahve to put "HAVE_LIBPNG" define on image.cpp
20141101 04:03:53< mattsc> okay
20141101 04:04:00< mattsc> should I?
20141101 04:04:43< iceiceice> up to you
20141101 04:05:14< mattsc> (Btw, I’ve just come back from two hours of trick-or-treating with a flask of “keep walking” in the pocket of my fleece jacket, so I am even less coherent than I usually am)
20141101 04:06:00< mattsc> If you put out error messages like that, I might actually be listening …
20141101 04:06:50< mattsc> If not:
20141101 04:07:04< irker609> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 71f89f31b7ae / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Update Xcode project file http://git.io/GblOVA
20141101 04:08:42< mattsc> iceiceice: seriously though, what’s the purpose of savepng?  As in, why is it up to me if I use it?  That sounds like there’s no point of having it in the first place ...
20141101 04:08:56< mattsc> (and yes, I’m behind on reading up on the logs for a bit at this point)
20141101 04:09:49< iceiceice> haha
20141101 04:10:04< iceiceice> so the purpose is,
20141101 04:10:11< iceiceice> bmp's suck
20141101 04:10:17< iceiceice> our program actually uses png's
20141101 04:10:25< iceiceice> we'd rather generate png's
20141101 04:10:36< iceiceice> there's two ways we make images now,
20141101 04:10:38< iceiceice> (1) screenshots
20141101 04:10:45< iceiceice> (2) rendering modified sprites
20141101 04:11:18< iceiceice> tekelili asked me a question on forums, "can you make for me a sprite like this (with image filter applied) so i can test"
20141101 04:11:27< iceiceice> and i realized, actually it should be easy
20141101 04:11:28< mattsc> so this now gives me png screenshots ???
20141101 04:11:35< mattsc> of course I want that!
20141101 04:11:39< iceiceice> unless you make the output .bmp etension
20141101 04:12:15< iceiceice> this was a very small problem, which i decided to kill with a nuclear bomb
20141101 04:12:27< iceiceice> if you want to join me in this, add define HAVE_LIBPNG
20141101 04:12:31< iceiceice> otherwise go on your merry way
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20141101 04:15:10< mattsc> iceiceice: is that a preprocessor flag?
20141101 04:15:21< iceiceice> yeah
20141101 04:16:04< iceiceice> you know... i think i also designed this one badly... i could just check one of the official png version macros
20141101 04:16:11< iceiceice> this was another commit from two weeks ago
20141101 04:16:29< iceiceice> then i dont make random work for you and gfgtdf
20141101 04:16:43< mattsc> argh, it’s trying to compile everything again ...
20141101 04:16:52< iceiceice> :(
20141101 04:17:01< iceiceice> you can't build with ccache?
20141101 04:17:31< mattsc> no, it only recompiles what’s new.  But apparently adding ...
20141101 04:17:37< mattsc> uo oh, build failed ...
20141101 04:17:39< iceiceice> oh all the other stuff
20141101 04:19:02< mattsc> oh, just because I somehow didn’t remove -HAVE_PNG from image.cpp
20141101 04:19:11< mattsc> btw, there are at least 5 image.cpp's
20141101 04:20:29< mattsc> I think I need to “keep walking” a little, while my computer is thinking 
20141101 04:21:29< iceiceice> wow you're right
20141101 04:21:33< iceiceice> there  are 5 image .cpp's
20141101 04:21:37< iceiceice> i never realized 
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20141101 04:25:01< mattsc> ah, good, now it’s complaining about not having libpng …
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20141101 04:26:47< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4538 (master - 9c6ad9c : Chris Beck): The build was fixed.
20141101 04:26:47< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39665383
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20141101 04:30:07< mattsc> iceiceice: argh. but now it’s complaining about not having png.h
20141101 04:30:28< mattsc> I only added the dyliv, not the header files back whenever I did that.
20141101 04:30:29< iceiceice> i think gfgtdf also had this experience
20141101 04:30:39< mattsc> *dylib
20141101 04:31:13< iceiceice> hmm
20141101 04:31:17< mattsc> That’s not really a problem, I just need to make sure that I get the version corresponding to the library files I’m having
20141101 04:31:35< mattsc> … and I am too drunk to do that right now, so I’ll let it sit until tomorrow  ;)
20141101 04:31:43< iceiceice> nice
20141101 04:35:32< mattsc> actually, I lied
20141101 04:35:46< mattsc> … and it also wants pnconf.h and pnglibconf.h
20141101 04:36:31< mattsc> now what’s that shortcut to take screenshots again …
20141101 04:38:33< mattsc> iceiceice: hmm, still taking bmp screenshots though  :(
20141101 04:39:13< iceiceice> i think the default might be bmp, i'm not sure
20141101 04:39:21< iceiceice> i actually have no idea what the screenshot button is, i didn't test that
20141101 04:39:23< mattsc> so how do you change it?
20141101 04:39:29< iceiceice> the way i tested it was comand line,
20141101 04:39:36< iceiceice> you can do wesnoth --screenshot map output
20141101 04:39:37< mattsc> I just reset the hotkey
20141101 04:39:47< iceiceice> does the hotkey launch a dialog?
20141101 04:39:50< iceiceice> or just make a file
20141101 04:40:00< mattsc> launches a dialog
20141101 04:40:08< iceiceice> does the dialog let you name it/
20141101 04:40:22< iceiceice> i have to see this for myself
20141101 04:40:24< iceiceice> hehe
20141101 04:41:12< mattsc> nope
20141101 04:41:24< iceiceice> gah this dialog is evil
20141101 04:41:37< mattsc> it tells me that it is called Screenshot_001.bmp
20141101 04:42:09< iceiceice> ok, do you think default should be bmp? or png
20141101 04:42:19< iceiceice> i dont want to add widgets right now
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20141101 04:42:34< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4539 (master - 71f89f3 : mattsc): The build was fixed.
20141101 04:42:34< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39666604
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20141101 04:42:51< mattsc> what?  what the hell did I do ?!
20141101 04:43:00< mattsc> iceiceice: http://imgur.com/0RaIg6J
20141101 04:43:39< mattsc> iceiceice: quite seriously though, right this moment I honestly don’t care.  ;)
20141101 04:44:34< mattsc> I got it to compile both with and without the HAVE_LIBPNG flag.
20141101 04:44:58< mattsc> Whether it makes a difference or not can wait for another day.
20141101 04:48:15< fendrin> hi mattsc
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20141101 05:18:56< ancestral> iceiceice: Any idea why Wesnoth might require WebP?
20141101 05:19:09< iceiceice> no
20141101 05:19:29< iceiceice> apparently we also require harfbuzz
20141101 05:19:39< ancestral> What on earth is harfbuzz?
20141101 05:19:39< iceiceice> or pango does, in homebrew land
20141101 05:19:45< ancestral> I see
20141101 05:19:51< ancestral> Probably WebP is Pango/Cairo
20141101 05:19:53< iceiceice> i had to look it up,
20141101 05:20:06< iceiceice> harfbuzz is an open source "text shaping" program
20141101 05:20:13< iceiceice> made by a guy who likes to take pictures of himself wearing a hat
20141101 05:20:32< ancestral> That’s random
20141101 05:20:52< ancestral> `Checking for Pango with cairo backend... Package xcb-shm was not found in the pkg-config search path.`
20141101 05:21:07< ancestral> `Perhaps you should add the directory containing `xcb-shm.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable`
20141101 05:21:16< ancestral> `Package 'xcb-shm', required by 'cairo', not found`
20141101 05:23:29< iceiceice> gah
20141101 05:23:34< iceiceice> i dont remember the xcb thing
20141101 05:23:37< iceiceice> i thought we solved this
20141101 05:24:05< iceiceice> $ export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/X11/lib/pkgconfig
20141101 05:24:06< ancestral> Yes that was the export thing
20141101 05:24:17< iceiceice> ok
20141101 05:24:22< iceiceice> so this is more evil X stuff
20141101 05:24:44< iceiceice> if you make cairo / pango without x, does it still ask for this?
20141101 05:25:44< ancestral> Let’s see
20141101 05:26:58< ancestral> Trying to figure out what flags/args I need
20141101 05:27:18< iceiceice> brew options pango
20141101 05:27:39< iceiceice> i think its like "brew pango --without-x11"
20141101 05:32:05< ancestral> Oh okay
20141101 05:34:07< ancestral> Built
20141101 05:34:20< ancestral> Alright, moving along
20141101 05:35:21< ancestral> `Checking for Pango with cairo backend... Package xcb-shm was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `xcb-shm.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable`
20141101 05:35:58< iceiceice> hmm it didnt fix?
20141101 05:36:18< ancestral> I mean
20141101 05:36:23< ancestral> I didn’t export the path
20141101 05:36:26< ancestral> I can though
20141101 05:36:49< iceiceice> i think maybe can wroka round though
20141101 05:36:56< iceiceice> because the old formula didn't require this right?
20141101 05:37:01< ancestral> Yeah the export works
20141101 05:37:14< ancestral> We did have to export with that, or something similar
20141101 05:37:19< iceiceice> hmm
20141101 05:37:28< iceiceice> i look on their website: "If you see "Package 'xcb-shm', required by 'cairo', not found", you probably installed Cairo with homebrew and need to do this:"
20141101 05:37:42< iceiceice> it might be that if you do "brew install cairo --without-x11" it won't do this?
20141101 05:37:54< ancestral> pango installs cairo so
20141101 05:37:59< ancestral> I could cairo then pango?
20141101 05:38:08< iceiceice> yeah thats what i was thinking
20141101 05:38:49< ancestral> Downloading cairo hmm
20141101 05:40:31< ancestral> 50%
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20141101 05:42:52< ancestral> 100%
20141101 05:44:06< ancestral> Now doing pango
20141101 05:45:39< ancestral> OK
20141101 05:46:07< ancestral> iceiceice: So you are right
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20141101 05:46:18< ancestral> That worked
20141101 05:46:35< iceiceice> yeah
20141101 05:46:43< iceiceice> so one thing we coudl do is,
20141101 05:46:47< iceiceice> leave it as it is,
20141101 05:47:02< iceiceice> and tell people, "to install wesnoth, (1) run this curl line to install homebrew
20141101 05:47:24< iceiceice> (2) brew install cairo --without-x11 && brew install pango --without-x11 && brew install wesnoth "
20141101 05:47:43< iceiceice> the other thing we could do is,
20141101 05:47:57< iceiceice> try to make the formula wesnoth, auotmatically make you do the --without-x11,
20141101 05:48:20< iceiceice> but then if you later install xquartz, or choose to install cairo / pango with x11, it shouldn't make you recompile
20141101 05:48:32< iceiceice> or misty won't like it
20141101 05:48:42< iceiceice> because basically that means their later homebrew experience wont be so good
20141101 05:49:05< iceiceice> idk why they cant have side by side version of pango and cairo with dif options but apparently they cant
20141101 05:49:47< iceiceice> so idk how much testing you still care to do or if you think its worth it to fool around with this more
20141101 05:54:48< ancestral> Yeah
20141101 05:54:52< ancestral> Well and to a degree
20141101 05:55:15< ancestral> I think typically the type of people outside of the Wesnoth regulars are homebrewers
20141101 05:55:31< ancestral> So they probably are okay installing anything and everything
20141101 05:55:42< ancestral> Adding things to their paths, etc.
20141101 05:56:09< ancestral> And just tell our dozen or so Wesnoth regulars who might use this to follow some simple instructions, or a different script altogether
20141101 05:56:16< iceiceice> yeah
20141101 05:56:24< iceiceice> the other thing i realized that bothers me a bit is,
20141101 05:56:27< iceiceice> homebrew doesn't split up boost
20141101 05:56:35< iceiceice> so when you install wesnoth,
20141101 05:56:42< iceiceice> you have to spend 45 minutes or whatever compiling all of boost
20141101 05:56:50< ancestral> Ahh
20141101 05:56:55< iceiceice> i think it might be that it doens't affect OS X?
20141101 05:56:56< iceiceice> i'm not sure
20141101 05:57:02< iceiceice> for linux it defintiely is a drag
20141101 05:57:15< iceiceice> i saw that macports also splits boost,
20141101 05:57:48< iceiceice> homebrew has this thing called "bottles" which is binary packages, i don't know if its possible for them to distribute boost dylibs instead of boost source?
20141101 05:57:50< ancestral> Anyway my thing is done
20141101 05:57:58< ancestral> Good question
20141101 05:58:12< iceiceice> anyways i think it could be possible to offer bootleg boost
20141101 05:58:16< iceiceice> which is split up
20141101 05:58:29< iceiceice> but idk how to resolve it properly with the built-in boost dep
20141101 05:58:43< iceiceice> because we only depend on like 5 or 6 boosts
20141101 05:58:52< iceiceice> instead of, what 20-30 ?
20141101 05:59:46< ancestral> Hmm
20141101 06:00:24< ancestral> Still having trouble finding the bundle
20141101 06:01:37< iceiceice> oh i didnt try to fix that
20141101 06:02:09< ancestral> But, wesnoth builds fine on its own, as expected
20141101 06:02:23< ancestral> And wesnothd
20141101 06:03:30< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master e243285abacc / data/multiplayer/factions/ (undead-aoh.cfg undead-default.cfg): change undead help portrait to spectre, it fits better here http://git.io/03-OAw
20141101 06:03:32< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 72ad9500b623 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/MxDNhw
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20141101 06:42:41< shadowm> Is it just my imagination, or triggering events with [message]s mid-move used to not leave the unit floating on the map without its bars and ellipse?
20141101 07:17:06< shadowm> > src/gui/widgets/window.cpp:1066 in function 'layout' found the following problem: Failed to size window; wanted size 1168,320 available size 1094,639 screen size 1276,669.
20141101 07:17:20 * shadowm facekeyboards.
20141101 07:17:54 * elsalado facefoots
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20141101 08:52:31< zookeeper> shadowm, there was a new sprite, but IIRC the animations are still being worked on
20141101 08:52:52< zookeeper> could might as well put what there is in already, i suppose
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20141101 11:20:55< Ivanovic> shadowm: the openpandora version is missing because i did not manage to create it
20141101 11:21:06< Ivanovic> i simply had no time for it before departing on business travel
20141101 11:21:54< Ivanovic> for anything else you need me: please ping me!
20141101 11:22:13< Ivanovic> i am heading off to bed now after arriving back in germany thanks to not being able to sleep during the flight...
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20141101 14:28:57< irker169> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master f890aa00a0ee / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Configure Xcode project to use SDL_SavePNG http://git.io/JlxFFw
20141101 14:29:32< mattsc> iceiceice: ^   However, as we said yesterday, screenshots are still produced as bmps anyway.
20141101 14:30:19< mattsc> Everybody compiling with Xcode: you’ll need a new MAc compiler package for this, as new headers were added.  I’ll upload that shortly.
20141101 14:33:59< fabi> hi mattsc
20141101 14:34:28< mattsc> hi fabi
20141101 14:43:21< irker169> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 408a12a28812 / changelog data/ai/lua/ai_helper.lua: Micro AIs: only display on-screen error messages when in debug mode http://git.io/mx8odQ
20141101 14:45:25< irker169> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master ada80cfd34ea / changelog data/ai/lua/ai_helper.lua: Micro AIs: only display on-screen error messages when in debug mode http://git.io/cCF4bQ
20141101 14:52:39< lipkab> iceiceice: Big thumbs up for the xBRZ stuff, it looks awesome.
20141101 14:52:52< iceiceice> lipkab: thanks :)
20141101 14:53:03< lipkab> Thumbs down for breaking CMake, however!
20141101 14:53:09< iceiceice> :O
20141101 14:53:18< iceiceice> are you sure i broke it though?
20141101 14:53:35< iceiceice> i think i had linker problems before this,
20141101 14:53:58< iceiceice>  i assume you think i broke it when we made the filesystem commits?
20141101 14:54:10< iceiceice> (i really thought i had done that correctly)
20141101 14:55:13< lipkab> It has syntax errors around line 635, which is some PNG stuff which - I presume - was introduced by you when changing the screenshot format.
20141101 14:56:19< lipkab> iceiceice: (I'm about to commit a fix, so you need not worry about too much)
20141101 14:56:27< lipkab> *about it
20141101 14:56:33< iceiceice> oh, sorry
20141101 14:56:56< irker169> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 7ed5bb1a6e62 / CMakeLists.txt src/CMakeLists.txt: Fix CMake build. http://git.io/ULPBWQ
20141101 14:57:38< iceiceice> wait so,
20141101 14:57:46< iceiceice> when are you supposed to put the stuff in parenthesis in cmake?
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20141101 14:57:56< iceiceice> i was just copying something else i saw earlier int he list
20141101 14:58:36< iceiceice> e.g. here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L185
20141101 14:59:10< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L506
20141101 15:01:07< lipkab> You don't need to repeat the if condition for endif and else but you always need the parenthesis.
20141101 15:02:24< lipkab> Technically, changing endif() to endif(stuff) wasn't necessary, it was just for consistency.
20141101 15:02:36< iceiceice> ok
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20141101 15:08:20< irker169> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:1.12 824f14223140 / src/gui/dialogs/lobby/ (lobby_data.cpp lobby_data.hpp): Make the GUI2 lobby respect the require_modification attribute. http://git.io/yCrPLg
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20141101 17:04:06< Ivanovic> mattsc: so what is the overall status?
20141101 17:04:20< Ivanovic> i will probably get nothing done today, not even all the translation updates i found in my inbox
20141101 17:04:27< Ivanovic> but i could maybe work on a release tomorrow
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20141101 17:30:34< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master d9ecc0a9f763 / SConstruct: scons: don't depend on libintl if boost filesystem enabled http://git.io/wcSKLQ
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20141101 17:57:33< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:1.12 0ef4e60f8d11 / / (12 files in 9 dirs): Merge branch '1.12' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth into 1.12 http://git.io/1fxujQ
20141101 18:12:19< ancestral> iceiceice: Changes to the script?
20141101 18:12:41< iceiceice> yeah i did jus tnow
20141101 18:12:51< iceiceice> err
20141101 18:13:22< iceiceice> its getting a little confusing now actually, i made a temp script instead this time
20141101 18:15:15< iceiceice> ok i'm changing the one you were pointing to back to how it was
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20141101 18:50:22< mattsc> Ivanovic: Hi, welcome back.
20141101 18:50:37< mattsc> Ivanovic: we’re not ready for releasing this weekend:  https://mail.gna.org/public/wesnoth-dev/2014-10/msg00023.html
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20141101 19:18:54< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: how far are you with the "clearify [side] current_player=, save_id=, player_id= and [multiplayer] side_users=" patch ?
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20141101 19:26:29< iceiceice> ancestral: did you ever get this error? http://bot.brew.sh/job/Homebrew%20Games%20Pull%20Requests/16/version=yosemite/testReport/junit/brew-test-bot/yosemite/install_wesnoth/
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20141101 19:39:07< ancestral> iceiceice: Yes that’s the one where the export command is needed
20141101 19:39:11< ancestral> Or build pang an cairo without x11
20141101 19:39:14< ancestral> *pango
20141101 19:39:17< iceiceice> its wierd that their test bot doesn't do it right
20141101 19:39:41< ancestral> cairo without x, pango without x, then wesnoth
20141101 19:39:59< ancestral> Or, `export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/X11/lib/pkgconfig`
20141101 19:40:06< ancestral> And then that will work
20141101 19:40:35< ancestral> From what I know, either of the two options
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20141101 19:47:18< irker169> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 83a4b08e72da / src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): move replay init to playcampaign.cpp http://git.io/eWh6jQ
20141101 19:47:20< irker169> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master cbead26ffeb7 / src/playsingle_controller.cpp: add log messsage http://git.io/oYEODQ
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20141101 19:52:30< iceiceice> ancestral: thx
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20141101 20:00:32< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: I don't know anything about that patch.
20141101 20:01:10< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: ok then i misunderstood something.
20141101 20:02:21< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: was i meant was: 0141030 00:22:43< iceiceice> i know thunderstruck is thinking to add a third one that owuld be like "playerid" or something, and be used only by connect engine
20141101 20:02:40< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: Wait. Are you just asking about my progress of problems such as wrong AI names?
20141101 20:05:05< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: I'm not very far with that. I did some debugging and have an idea how I could possibly fix that, but I made no attempts to fix that so far. I should be able to work on that in the next few days.
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20141101 20:10:06< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: actualy i don't know the exact bug that this was mean to be fixed but yes i think thats what i meant.
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20141101 20:18:38< ancestral> iceiceice, mattsc: What’s the reason for the “Mac Compile Stuff” in a separate project? Is it because it changes too much?
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20141101 20:19:13< ancestral> And secondly, could having the pango and cairo files from MCS help better build Wesnoth using homebrew?
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20141101 20:19:41< ancestral> (Alternatively, could it prove those things in MCS irrelevant?)
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20141101 20:39:24< mattsc> ancestral: I don’t know why it was set up that way, I took it over in that state  (ask crimson_penguin)
20141101 20:39:56< mattsc> My interpretation is that it means several 10s of MB that not everybody has to download just because they are needed on Macs.
20141101 20:40:45< mattsc> And yes, I think if we could have everybody doe the homebrewing thing, we probably wouldn’t need the MCS.  I think...
20141101 20:43:10< ancestral> Looking through the headers and libs it appears none of this is important
20141101 20:44:07< mattsc> none of the headers and libs?
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20141101 20:50:53< iceiceice> ancestral: i think its that way because, it doesn't make sense to put compiled stuff in the repository
20141101 20:51:08< iceiceice> it would be different for every single platform
20141101 20:51:13< ancestral> Right
20141101 20:51:37< iceiceice> we don't even put the .mo files in the repository,
20141101 20:51:43< iceiceice> that one seems a bit weird to me
20141101 20:51:57< iceiceice> but i guess thats how its commonly done
20141101 20:52:12< iceiceice> maybe .mo files look different on a power pc vs intel chip because of endiannes or something
20141101 20:54:11< ancestral> Don’t know, but PPC Wesnoth should go away
20141101 20:54:56< mattsc> ancestral: agreed; and the MCS libraries in master are already not compiled for PPC any more
20141101 21:04:59< ancestral> mattsc: So what is needed to make the Mac app? wesnoth, wesnothd, Info.plist, PkgInfo, the Resources/data… so that leaves frameworks
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20141101 21:06:26< mattsc> ancestral: umm, I don’t know.  All of the libraries that are in there are needed, otherwise it won’t run.
20141101 21:06:30< ancestral> Looks like Homebrew puts those in /usr/local/Cellar/
20141101 21:06:51< mattsc> well, or macports puts them into /opt/local/
20141101 21:06:59< ancestral> or /opt/local
20141101 21:07:16< mattsc> but then you need to require people to install and run either macports or homebrew
20141101 21:07:16< iceiceice> ancestral: it might be good to look at some other project that builds an app
20141101 21:07:22< mattsc> which, so far, we have not done
20141101 21:07:23< iceiceice> and just copy them and see if it works
20141101 21:07:48< ancestral> mattsc: Do you know, when you open Wesnoth.app, does it just look for frameworks for whatever paths are available?
20141101 21:08:04< mattsc> no
20141101 21:08:12< mattsc> it looks in ../Frameworks/
20141101 21:08:14< ancestral> In other words, Wesnoth.app/Contents/Frameworks/*
20141101 21:08:17< ancestral> Right
20141101 21:08:38< mattsc> but the libraries themselves have the path in them
20141101 21:08:55< mattsc> either in absolute or relative terms
20141101 21:08:59< ancestral> Hmm
20141101 21:09:08< mattsc> go into the libs/ directory and do this:
20141101 21:09:14< mattsc> otool -L *.dylib
20141101 21:09:26< ancestral> So what I’m asking is, can we have Homebrew copy the frameworks inside the .app like we have them, and have the app use those?
20141101 21:09:40< mattsc> no
20141101 21:09:53< mattsc> we need to change those paths inside them, at least
20141101 21:10:00< ancestral> Is that easy to do?
20141101 21:10:34< mattsc> which can be done (which I _have_ done to convert them from macports defaults to Wesnoth.app dirs)
20141101 21:11:07< ancestral> Hmm
20141101 21:11:33< mattsc> ancestral: http://pastebin.com/n7dcTBph
20141101 21:12:30< mattsc> That’s how it works, in principle (the script was only set up for my specific purpose, but it shows you how to do it)
20141101 21:18:52< ancestral> Is there an option to set that at the libraries’ compile time?
20141101 21:19:28< mattsc> possibly; probably; I really don’t know ...
20141101 21:20:07< mattsc> ancestral: just as background, I only took over the Xcode project because at the time I was pretty much the only active developer left who’s using a Mac.
20141101 21:20:21< ancestral> Sure
20141101 21:20:35< mattsc> I knew almost nothing about it at the time and have been operating under the “if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it” principle
20141101 21:20:44 * ancestral nods
20141101 21:20:53< mattsc> Not because I don’t want to, but because I have too many other things going on
20141101 21:21:12< mattsc> I’d be delighted if somebody else wanted to take this over and “clean it up”.
20141101 21:21:27< mattsc> But that’s the reason why I answer IDK so often.  :)
20141101 21:21:31< ancestral> I would consider taking it over, if it weren’t for fear of restrictions of my employer
20141101 21:21:49< mattsc> I see.  That’s too bad.
20141101 21:22:39< ancestral> Which is part of the reason I want to avoid my real name in the project as much as possible…
20141101 21:23:07< mattsc> sure, no worries
20141101 21:24:04< mattsc> this is all vonlunteer work anyway, nobody should feel any pressure to do anything they don’t want to or are not comfortable with, for whatever reason
20141101 21:24:19< ancestral> Exactly
20141101 21:37:19< irker169> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 081cb8f6cc13 / src/server/game.hpp: add a comment. http://git.io/67m7xw
20141101 21:52:58< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: i think if we have a [side] controlling_player_id = <id of player> we can remove the "network" and "network_ai" controllers and determine whether a side is networked controlled by controlling_player_id == local_player_id ?
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20141101 21:54:48< gfgtdf> iceiceice: if a sides controller gets assigned to "idle" is that then sended to teh server too ir is that just locally ?
20141101 21:54:55< iceiceice> its just local
20141101 21:55:19< iceiceice> gfgtdf: it should maybe be refactored,
20141101 21:55:40< iceiceice> i was thinking that, as a way to bring back the "human_ai" functionality,
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20141101 21:55:45< iceiceice> there should be another property of sides
20141101 21:55:49< iceiceice> i'm not sure what to call it
20141101 21:55:52< iceiceice> the idea is
20141101 21:56:01< iceiceice> it only has an impact for human controlled sides,
20141101 21:56:22< iceiceice> it can be either "normal", "ai", or "idle"
20141101 21:56:32< gfgtdf> iceiceice: can wml set a side to idle ?
20141101 21:56:38< iceiceice> maybe
20141101 21:56:40< iceiceice> probably
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20141101 21:57:08< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm ok
20141101 21:57:21< iceiceice> i think the new property should not be stored in save files, nor synced either
20141101 21:57:31< iceiceice> its purely an interface option
20141101 21:57:40< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you mean "ai" in this case is what "human_ai" was previous ?
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20141101 21:57:54< iceiceice> yeah if you control a side (controller = "human")
20141101 21:58:05< iceiceice> but you assign the "input source" to "ai"
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20141101 21:58:11< iceiceice> then an ai makes the moves
20141101 21:58:12< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok
20141101 21:58:24< iceiceice> but check_victory still thnks of you as human
20141101 21:58:44< iceiceice> and i guess there coudl be a new command "e.g. fake_droid" to complement droid and toggle this
20141101 21:58:57< iceiceice> (need to work on the names)
20141101 21:59:15< gfgtdf> iceiceice: y but the idea is good.
20141101 21:59:16< iceiceice> so right now, droid will make your side be controlled by AI
20141101 21:59:19< iceiceice> yeah
20141101 22:00:16< gfgtdf> iceiceice: did you read my message to thunderstruck earlier ?
20141101 22:00:30< iceiceice> i think so
20141101 22:00:34< iceiceice> i might have missed soem of it
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20141101 22:02:03< gfgtdf> iceiceice: did i understand correct that with the new "serversided ccontroller tweaks" every side is controlled by the host at game start and then teh server assigns the sides? 
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20141101 22:06:02< iceiceice> what does it mean "at game start" ?
20141101 22:06:21< iceiceice> so it should be very, very early 
20141101 22:06:28< iceiceice> i believe the way it works is,
20141101 22:06:32< iceiceice> when the host clicks "game start",
20141101 22:06:39< iceiceice> the server upon seeing this message,
20141101 22:07:05< iceiceice> performs the tweaks (they are controller change orders), sending them to all clients including the host.
20141101 22:07:05< iceiceice> when it is finished,
20141101 22:07:05< iceiceice> then it relays [start] as usual
20141101 22:07:30< iceiceice> so the change happens before the other clients are even out of the mp_connect screen
20141101 22:07:49< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm ok
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20141101 22:16:03< gfgtdf> iceiceice: are you plan to work on your human controller type patch soon ?
20141101 22:17:11< iceiceice> idk, does anything depend on it?
20141101 22:17:20< iceiceice> i didnt have concrete plans, just an idea
20141101 22:17:31< iceiceice> it only ocurred to me to add idle to it just now when you mentioend
20141101 22:18:08< iceiceice> i was planning to work on xbrz alpha channel, zenju sent me some good ideas about this
20141101 22:19:38< gfgtdf> iceiceice: no just wanted to knwo to to not start somethign similar at teh time to prevent rerging conflicts
20141101 22:19:45< gfgtdf> merging*
20141101 22:19:59< iceiceice> ok
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20141101 23:53:31< irker169> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 64a29d243504 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter3/09_Bounty_Hunters.cfg: LoW 09: fix several issues with coordinates due to new map size http://git.io/nnDlOA
20141101 23:53:47< mattsc> fabi: ^
20141101 23:54:38< gfgtdf> iceiceice: are you there ?
20141101 23:58:59< gfgtdf> shadowm: do you know whether we can, if we start wesnoth from a commandline, redirect the output to a custom file or does sdl's own redirect block that?
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