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20141102 00:07:51< ancestral> gfgtdf: I can try
20141102 00:08:04< ancestral> What kind of output?
20141102 00:08:25< gfgtdf> ancestral: the stderr.txt file
20141102 00:09:24< ancestral> so 2>~/stderr.txt or something?
20141102 00:10:02< gfgtdf> ancestral: no i want that it doesn not go into teh stderr.txt file, sdl redirects the output to the stderr.txt file-
20141102 00:10:13< gfgtdf> ancestral: i want any other file.
20141102 00:10:48< ancestral> So I mean
20141102 00:10:51< mattsc> ancestral: 1>~/Desktop/tmp.txt
20141102 00:10:56< ancestral> 2>~/something.txt
20141102 00:11:01< ancestral> right
20141102 00:11:10< mattsc> ancestral: 2> is stderr; 1> is stdtxt
20141102 00:11:22< gfgtdf> ancestral: there are multiple reasons: 1) there is a bug: https://gna.org/bugs/?22897 2) its annoying if 2 instances of wesnoth.exe try to write to the same file.
20141102 00:12:57< ancestral> gfgtdf: https://paste.ee/p/YDDsc
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20141102 00:15:44< gfgtdf> ancestral: thats the input of your stderr-tmp.txt file ?
20141102 00:16:03< ancestral> That’s the output from stderr
20141102 00:16:06< gfgtdf> s/inout/content
20141102 00:16:22< gfgtdf> ancestral: so it dint work to redirect to stderr-tmp.txt
20141102 00:16:26< gfgtdf> didn't
20141102 00:16:38< ancestral> I think it did
20141102 00:16:43< mattsc> gfgtdf: on a Mac, stdtxt/err is, by default, written to the console, not to a file
20141102 00:17:06< ancestral> I mean, I started the game, started HttT, recruited a few units, then quit
20141102 00:17:19< mattsc> anyways, I have to be off, otherwise I’d offer to help.
20141102 00:17:23< mattsc> ttyl
20141102 00:17:32< ancestral> Maybe there would be more output connecting to a server
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20141102 00:17:40< gfgtdf> mattsc: hm on windows SDl by default redirests all consoe output to stderr.txt
20141102 00:17:45< gfgtdf> redirects**
20141102 00:17:53< gfgtdf> or stdcout.txt
20141102 00:17:56< gfgtdf> stdout*
20141102 00:18:00< ancestral> Not sure how you can redirect stderr in Windows
20141102 00:18:09< ancestral> Maybe via cmd.exe?
20141102 00:18:22< shadowm> No.
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20141102 00:18:59< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i think the stderr / stdout stuff is part of POSIX,
20141102 00:19:03< shadowm> SDL's WinMain redirects the output to stdout.txt and stderr.txt. The only way to change that is to redirect it again via freopen(), etc.
20141102 00:19:06< iceiceice> and apple mostly complies with posix now
20141102 00:19:24< shadowm> On any platform but Windows you don't need to worry about this and you can redirect the output using your shell.
20141102 00:20:19< gfgtdf> shadowm: so for  https://gna.org/bugs/?22897  there is no "non c++" workaround?
20141102 00:20:42< shadowm> Correct.
20141102 00:22:05< iceiceice> gfgtdf: there's some stuff here: https://wiki.libsdl.org/FAQWindows#I_get_.22Undefined_reference_to_.27WinMain.4016.27.22
20141102 00:22:37< iceiceice> it says maybe if you recompile SDL then you can do it i think
20141102 00:23:42< shadowm> Or replace the SDLmain blob with our very own WinMain but I don't know how much other code it contains.
20141102 00:24:00< gfgtdf> shadowm: i thougth i'd get a linker error then ?
20141102 00:24:18< shadowm> Not if you provide a WinMain.
20141102 00:25:09< gfgtdf> shadowm: hm ok ty
20141102 00:25:10< shadowm> I talked about this the other day. Our main() is not the entry point on Windows because Wesnoth is compiled as a GUI application. It's the SDL-provided WinMain() that calls our main().
20141102 00:25:44< iceiceice> hmmm
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20141102 00:26:04< shadowm> Windows "GUI applications" (really just "applications with no auto-attached console") use WinMain() as their entry point. I don't remember the name of the console application entry point.
20141102 00:26:15< shadowm> I think it's tmain() or something.
20141102 00:26:46< iceiceice> gfgtdf: there's more details here: http://sdl.beuc.net/sdl.wiki/FAQ_Console
20141102 00:26:48< gfgtdf> shadowm: i wouldn't like to make my own winmain becasue that could mean if we change the sdl version we have to adapt those changes in our winmain accordingly.
20141102 00:28:26< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ty
20141102 00:31:15< gfgtdf> iceiceice: to me it looks like the non hosts receive teh [change_controller] from servers perform_cntroller_tweaks before teh game starts but teh host receives it after teh game starts
20141102 00:31:40< iceiceice> hmm
20141102 00:32:03< iceiceice> is this problematic?
20141102 00:33:00< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i currently cannot think of a buf that could be casued by this.
20141102 00:33:13< iceiceice> if it turns out to be bad,
20141102 00:33:16< iceiceice> i guess what i would want to do is,
20141102 00:33:29< iceiceice> change mp connect so that the host waits to leave until it got all the tweaks and a [start] command
20141102 00:33:44< iceiceice> so the [start] from server becomes a synchronization point
20141102 00:34:10< iceiceice> i think right now as soon as you click start it jumps right into the game
20141102 00:34:31< gfgtdf> iceiceice: y
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20141102 01:21:15< irker169> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 04e520820ed1 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter3/10_Cliffs_of_Thoria.cfg: LoW 10: set user_team_name for player side http://git.io/7Ktyjw
20141102 01:21:17< irker169> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 b991ec6d4864 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter3/10_Cliffs_of_Thoria.cfg: LoW 10: make it so that yetis can be seen moving in hole in fog http://git.io/eCanoQ
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20141102 02:41:52< iceiceice> loonycyborg: around?
20141102 02:42:01< loonycyborg> yes
20141102 02:42:23< iceiceice> having an interesting discussion with homebrew folks atm,
20141102 02:42:48< loonycyborg> what about?
20141102 02:42:53< iceiceice> so have been working out the kinks in this, it turns out there was a minor bug in our scons pkgconfig code,
20141102 02:43:14< iceiceice> it throws out an environment variable that is needed i guess, or at least used by homebrew:
20141102 02:43:15< iceiceice> https://github.com/cbeck88/wesnoth/commit/9f93831a2397d45560a9f1e36a40aac38d4affc3
20141102 02:43:36< iceiceice> in irc in the other channel, they are suggesting that we should have a "packager mode"
20141102 02:43:48< iceiceice> which i guess preserves all environment variables to make it easier for package managers to work
20141102 02:45:31< iceiceice> example is suggested here actually: https://github.com/cr1901/IRCbot/blob/master/SConstruct#L19-L20
20141102 02:46:03< iceiceice> does this make sense to you, or is it going to break everything?
20141102 02:46:08< iceiceice> i don't know enough about all the scons code to know
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20141102 02:46:19< loonycyborg> yeah, why not
20141102 02:47:10< loonycyborg> unlike upstream scons devs I don't think throwing environment away like that is a good idea..
20141102 02:48:02< shadowm> It is a very good idea for more sensitive applications like http servers, etc. For a build management tool like make or scons? I'd think not.
20141102 02:50:01< loonycyborg> I can see one potential reason though
20141102 02:50:13< loonycyborg> if some command is affected by environment
20141102 02:50:22< loonycyborg> build tool won't know to rebuild it
20141102 02:50:27< loonycyborg> if this env value changes
20141102 02:55:02< iceiceice> does it mean that targets will essentially all be rebuilt if any environment var changes?
20141102 02:55:08< iceiceice> or just if this option changes
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20141102 02:56:00< iceiceice> i guess it means that basically everything becomes dirty if the external environment changes
20141102 02:56:35< iceiceice> but its not so important for the package manager i guess
20141102 02:56:43< iceiceice> since they aren't trying to do incremental builds
20141102 02:58:39< loonycyborg> no it's the other way around, currently at least
20141102 02:58:58< loonycyborg> it doesn't pay attention to system environment unless you make it
20141102 02:59:52< iceiceice> yeah, but if we add the patch and you are using this option, 
20141102 03:00:16< loonycyborg> packagers always build from scratch
20141102 03:00:27< loonycyborg> they don't use incremental builds for packaging
20141102 03:00:56< iceiceice> yeah thats what i mean
20141102 03:04:54< iceiceice> is there anything more we'd have to do then add a few lines in SConstruct, or are there submodules in the scons/ folder that further restrict the environment?
20141102 03:05:38< loonycyborg> no, env["ENV"] = os.environ.get is enough
20141102 03:05:49< loonycyborg> submodules forward variables explicitly
20141102 03:05:59< iceiceice> ok
20141102 03:06:21< iceiceice> i think i will try to commit some version of this then
20141102 03:06:29< loonycyborg> ok
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20141102 03:17:40< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 9f93831a2397 / scons/pkgconfig.py: scons: don't ignore PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR environment variable http://git.io/ZwnfSQ
20141102 03:17:42< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 8f93e0ebb01a / SConstruct: scons: add OS_ENV option, to forward all of OS environment to scons http://git.io/40JvHw
20141102 03:17:44< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 1a693ef8f1f7 / src/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/0LcRew
20141102 03:18:47< iceiceice> loonycyborg: ^
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20141102 03:35:25< shadowm> I just realized Ruffians have stronger melee that Footpads.
20141102 03:39:17< iceiceice> shadowm: i just noticed we have a special sconscript in the lua folder,
20141102 03:39:18< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/lua/SConscript
20141102 03:39:32< iceiceice> it adds some special warning disables specific to lua i guess
20141102 03:39:51< iceiceice> so if you decide not to try to upgrade lua before 1.12 release i guess you could put the thing you were saying in there
20141102 03:40:58< shadowm> I don't think upgrading Lua will solve the warnings in the first place. I'm only doing it for the sake of bug fixes.
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20141102 04:19:30< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:1.10.7_scons_patches 9683de3d841c / SConstruct: backport SConstruct patch 8f93e0ebb01a2cccafa45f851dd18dc660f94176 http://git.io/g5cKzA
20141102 04:22:08< shadowm> Huh
20141102 04:22:39< shadowm> iceiceice: Why is that a separate branch?
20141102 04:23:04< iceiceice> i want to make sure it applies cleanly
20141102 04:23:09< iceiceice> to exactly the version they are trying to build
20141102 04:23:21< iceiceice> it can be deleted later
20141102 04:23:26< iceiceice> when next stable release occurs
20141102 04:25:00< shadowm> There won't be another 1.10.x release.
20141102 04:26:02< iceiceice> thats right,
20141102 04:26:10< iceiceice> once 1.10.x is not the stable version,
20141102 04:26:17< iceiceice> homebrew wont be interested to build it
20141102 04:26:17< shadowm> Okay, 1.12.0 then, got it.
20141102 04:26:20< iceiceice> eah
20141102 04:26:39< iceiceice> and the commit will go away when its no longer under a branch
20141102 04:26:48< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:1.11.18_scons_patches 2652c723d215 / SConstruct: backport SConstruct patch 8f93e0ebb01a2cccafa45f851dd18dc660f94176 http://git.io/jQ31Qg
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20141102 04:40:01< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4556 (1.10.7_scons_patches - 9683de3 : Chris Beck): The build passed.
20141102 04:40:01< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39728292
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20141102 04:54:10< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39728552
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20141102 05:08:24< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 20dbcff99cd6 / SConstruct: fixup SConstruct in case there is no terminal in the environment http://git.io/2_HSeA
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20141102 05:12:36< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4558 (master - 20dbcff : Chris Beck): The build is still failing.
20141102 05:12:36< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39729917
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20141102 05:17:09< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4558 (master - 20dbcff : Chris Beck): The build is still failing.
20141102 05:17:09< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39729917
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20141102 05:17:30< iceiceice> man that is wierd
20141102 05:17:41< iceiceice> why does travis have pkg_config searches cached?
20141102 05:17:43< iceiceice> https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/jobs/39729918
20141102 05:17:57< iceiceice> https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/jobs/39729918#L621
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20141102 06:45:58< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 8e2191efd99d / scons/pkgconfig.py: Revert "scons: don't ignore PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR environment variable" http://git.io/mKcJuQ
20141102 06:46:00< irker169> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master a2aff0d5af82 / scons/pkgconfig.py: Merge pull request #319 from cbeck88/test_to_fix_travis http://git.io/s66JyQ
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20141102 07:24:24< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4561 (master - a2aff0d : Chris Beck): The build was fixed.
20141102 07:24:24< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39732245
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20141102 10:05:32< Ivanovic> mattsc: currently building both master as well as 1.12 is broken
20141102 10:05:40< Ivanovic> for 1.12 it fails building wesnothd
20141102 10:06:11< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/yq6AriVA1.12 build failure: 
20141102 10:06:15< Ivanovic> argh
20141102 10:06:21< Ivanovic> 1.12 build failure: http://pastebin.com/yq6AriVA
20141102 10:07:45< Ivanovic> master: http://pastebin.com/rcgKd2VC
20141102 10:15:03< Ivanovic> so at least using cmake things are still broken (somehow)
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20141102 10:25:30< irker149> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper website:master abdc9a680f66 / start/1.12/ (7 files in 2 dirs): updated Galician and Portuguese announcement http://git.io/vRhJ1Q
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20141102 10:50:58< irker149> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 4591cb2ed592 / / (31 files in 30 dirs): updated Portuguese translation http://git.io/pg1DtA
20141102 10:51:00< irker149> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 586d2016a449 / po/wesnoth-manual/sk.po: updated Slovak translation http://git.io/V-qtNg
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20141102 17:40:07< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i'm trying to rebase the boost rng branch,
20141102 17:40:17< iceiceice> i get a conflict with this commit,
20141102 17:40:17< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6c19b3e8654c9ced93fabe7712d0af2b08dc3d32
20141102 17:40:27< iceiceice> is that code supposed to go somewhere else now?
20141102 17:41:09< iceiceice> is require_random the only place server generates rng for the game?
20141102 17:43:47< gfgtdf> iceiceice: y only rquire random generates deed for the game
20141102 17:43:56< iceiceice> ok thanks
20141102 17:48:26< iceiceice> Ivanovic:
20141102 17:48:31< iceiceice> i look at these logs you posted
20141102 17:48:40< iceiceice> http://pastebin.com/rcgKd2VC
20141102 17:48:49< iceiceice> this is just a bunch of warnings,
20141102 17:49:04< iceiceice> the most likely assumptions is that the clipboard code only ever compiled with warnings
20141102 17:49:20< iceiceice> and cmake had some kind of special exception just for src/clipboard.cpp
20141102 17:49:30< iceiceice> so when the code got moved the warning flags didn't
20141102 17:50:19< iceiceice> this one: http://pastebin.com/yq6AriVA
20141102 17:50:33< iceiceice> you are trying to compile filesystem_boost.cpp,
20141102 17:50:51< iceiceice> if you don't have the new libraries, then its not going to work, you might want to try turning that option off
20141102 17:51:01< iceiceice> if you didn't install them
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20141102 19:14:03< Ivanovic> iceiceice: i get those warnings=errors for some other files, too (when compiling with >1 core)
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20141102 19:14:30< Ivanovic> iceiceice: and if it is known to break and was just moved to other files, then the build system should be updated
20141102 19:15:08< Ivanovic> iceiceice: and i am pretty sure that i have all required libs
20141102 19:15:13< Ivanovic> regarding the 2nd issue
20141102 19:15:25< Ivanovic> that is: the main game built without issues, it seems to just be wesnothd failing
20141102 19:15:34< Ivanovic> so probably another case of "cmake recipe not completed updated"
20141102 19:32:45< Ivanovic> btw, if the lib was missing than cmake itself should already have said so
20141102 19:33:00< Ivanovic> as long as the recipe was updated (as it should have been)
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20141102 20:32:22< Ivanovic> mattsc: are these warnings intentional? http://pastebin.com/hBheJS33
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20141102 20:38:22< irker381> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master d263e46b346c / src/CMakeLists.txt: fixed building clipboard.cpp with cmake http://git.io/U1bAMw
20141102 20:38:22< irker381> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 47fb0c619914 / src/CMakeLists.txt: fixed building wesnothd using cmake http://git.io/Wx66jg
20141102 20:38:27< irker381> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 14c08b4c3de6 / src/CMakeLists.txt: fixed building wesnothd using cmake http://git.io/C3QKpQ
20141102 20:40:19< mattsc> Ivanovic: I doubt that they are intentional.  
20141102 20:41:10< Ivanovic> were those files added from "external"?
20141102 20:41:14< Ivanovic> or do you have to fix them?
20141102 20:41:16< mattsc> Ivanovic: iceiceice introduced that code, he’ll know what to do about them when he gets back  (except those fixes you just committed take care of them)
20141102 20:41:37< Ivanovic> what i just commited only takes care of the linking of wesnothd
20141102 20:41:43< Ivanovic> and of the clipboard.cpp warnings
20141102 20:41:56< Ivanovic> which were an issue again after the file move was not done 100% correctly
20141102 20:45:14< mattsc> Ivanovic: I really don’t know the details.  Here are all the changes I had to make to the Xcode project:
20141102 20:45:24< mattsc> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/71f89f31b7ae
20141102 20:45:57< mattsc> but I think that covered other changes too rather than just the xBRZ stuff
20141102 20:47:33< mattsc> Ivanovic: sorry I’m not more help; I bet iceiceice will know right away what to do when he gets back
20141102 20:47:49< Ivanovic> and i fear that the filesystem change does make boost filesystem mandatory for wesnothd
20141102 20:48:00< Ivanovic> meaning: breaking that build for the pandora
20141102 20:48:17< Ivanovic> is boost filesystem *really* required for the server or was it an oversight to not deactivate it there?
20141102 20:48:29< mattsc> gfgtdf: ^ any comment on that last question by Ivanovic 
20141102 20:48:41< mattsc> ?
20141102 20:48:50< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: most likeley its not required
20141102 20:49:13< Ivanovic> let me try to build it for the pandora
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20141102 20:49:29< Ivanovic> right now i had to alter the version check where you bumped the requirements
20141102 20:51:00< Ivanovic> WOW, linking fails really badly for the pandora build!
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20141102 21:12:55< Ivanovic> okay, i just checked and i do not get the linking error with 1.11.18
20141102 21:13:05< Ivanovic> so something changed between that version and now for the pandora version
20141102 21:13:22< Ivanovic> and i can't even paste the linking error because it seems to fail everywhere!
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20141102 21:16:17< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4566 (master - 47fb0c6 : Nils Kneuper): The build was broken.
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20141102 21:16:44< Ivanovic> linking gives me lovely 36364 lines with errors for the pandora build
20141102 21:16:57< Ivanovic> it does link normally with 1.11.18 and the same build env
20141102 21:17:09< irker381> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 c41727fd9ea4 / CMakeLists.txt: fixed version detection for pandora version http://git.io/AhQSPw
20141102 21:20:33< Ivanovic> but at least the linker error is reproducible on my desktop
20141102 21:20:43< Ivanovic> so anybody should be able to test it and find out what breaks there
20141102 21:21:51< Ivanovic> i use this configure line: http://pastebin.com/rTWmDXeX
20141102 21:21:57< Ivanovic> afterwards just running make -j8
20141102 21:22:12< Ivanovic> gfgtdf: can you test if you can build with the ENABLE_PANDORA flag active?
20141102 21:22:21< Ivanovic> i have *no* clue why it fails during building
20141102 21:22:37< Ivanovic> i already looked at the diff between the two versions of the cmake file and something is really wrong
20141102 21:22:50< Ivanovic> but the cmake diff does not show what
20141102 21:23:39< Ivanovic> gfgtdf: though are you aware that something strange is definitly happening with the LIBINTL part?
20141102 21:23:54< Ivanovic> (but removing that one is not enough to fix the linking)
20141102 21:24:14< Ivanovic> strange as in: the "IF(MSVC)" part does already include libintl
20141102 21:24:27< Ivanovic> in the else clause for all non visual studio compilers
20141102 21:24:40< Ivanovic> in the filesystem part you add it again if boost_filesystem is not set
20141102 21:25:01< Ivanovic> and you have the boost filesystem "gettext" as well as the normal linked in when having boost filesystem set
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20141102 21:27:38< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: i usualy use the msvc VC9 projectfile (y i know its not updated in teh last month), figuring out how cmake workd woudl take too much time to do it today
20141102 21:28:00< Ivanovic> gfgtdf: no linux box at hand?
20141102 21:29:34< irker381> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 d8c94285443a / po/wesnoth-help/hu.po: updated Hungarian translation http://git.io/B09vTA
20141102 21:29:36< irker381> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 73ad809290ac / po/wesnoth-help/hu.po: updated Hungarian translation http://git.io/kI26Yg
20141102 21:33:25< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: figuring out how to compile things on linux would take me even longer.
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20141102 21:34:40< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: iceiceice knows more about teh cmake file than me he is also the one who did most of teh cmakelist.txt integration of the boost fileystem patch.
20141102 21:35:02< Ivanovic> iceiceice: please read the last 20 lines of log
20141102 21:35:59< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: that LIBINTL_LIBRARY is always included on msvc seems to be somethign that was forgotten.I think i can test teh cmake msvc build during teh next week
20141102 21:37:08< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: the ENABLE_PANDORA flag shoudl always prevent you from compiling filesystem_boost.cpp and gettext_boost.cpp that was dote in this commit i think: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/419f154f424848856a83e2828183d15406ef6369
20141102 21:37:25< Ivanovic> the problem is during linking
20141102 21:37:34< Ivanovic> something is going wrong in that step
20141102 21:37:39< Ivanovic> the building part is okay
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20141102 21:38:35< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: maybe teh AND NOT PANDORA need to be done here to: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/419f154f424848856a83e2828183d15406ef6369/CMakeLists.txt#L590
20141102 21:39:24< Ivanovic> gfgtdf: already did that for 1.12
20141102 21:40:18< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: just to be sure: you it doesnt compile the .. _boost.cpp files but you still get linling errors?
20141102 21:40:26< Ivanovic> yes
20141102 21:40:37< Ivanovic> and i seem to get linking errors with basically every file
20141102 21:40:45< Ivanovic> >30k lines of errors
20141102 21:41:47< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: and this happens onyl on pandora ?
20141102 21:42:01< Ivanovic> this happens only with ENABLE_PANDORA=TRUE
20141102 21:42:21< Ivanovic> even when building on my desktop amd64 setup with the more recent libs
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20141102 21:44:03< iceiceice> Ivanovic: i just see the logs,.
20141102 21:44:14< gfgtdf> Ivanovic:  mybe this is wrong: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/CMakeLists.txt#L253
20141102 21:44:24< gfgtdf> Ivanovic: mybe it shoudl be ${libwesnoth-core_STAT_SRC}
20141102 21:44:38< Ivanovic> ugh, probably
20141102 21:45:18< iceiceice> yeah it looks like i made a typo
20141102 21:46:24< iceiceice> Ivanovic: as I mentioned in email, I tried to test it by pointing at old headers and using enable pandora option and checking if ic an compile,
20141102 21:46:34< iceiceice> i didn't expect to be able to link it obviously
20141102 21:46:46< Ivanovic> linking should work on desktops just fine
20141102 21:46:55< iceiceice> even with pandora on?
20141102 21:46:57< Ivanovic> there are no arm specific libs used/required
20141102 21:46:59< Ivanovic> yes
20141102 21:47:03< iceiceice> i didn't know this
20141102 21:47:08< Ivanovic> the pandora is a plain linux system
20141102 21:47:12< Ivanovic> it just uses old libs
20141102 21:47:22< iceiceice> i see
20141102 21:50:52< Ivanovic> jepp, that change does it
20141102 21:50:59< Ivanovic> iceiceice: do you want to commit it?
20141102 21:51:18< iceiceice> sure, as you like
20141102 21:53:16< iceiceice> let me test locally though
20141102 21:53:25< iceiceice> Ivanovic: do you know how i can enable ccache with cmake?
20141102 21:55:32< Ivanovic> uhm, i just have it in my normal $PATH
20141102 21:55:39< Ivanovic> before gcc is there
20141102 21:55:44< Ivanovic> so it automatically uses ccache
20141102 21:57:11< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/GKU6DAvH
20141102 21:57:56< iceiceice> i have the same, they are both in /usr/local/bin for me
20141102 21:58:01< iceiceice> but i dont think it uses ccache anyways
20141102 21:58:32< iceiceice> i'll worry about it later i guess, it just makes this take much longer
20141102 21:58:48< Ivanovic> you can of course define the compiler directly using the CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER variable
20141102 21:58:59< Ivanovic> after running cmake once you can call cmake-gui .
20141102 21:59:07< iceiceice> i tried that, the cmake gui complaiend that it wasn't a legal compiler
20141102 21:59:11< Ivanovic> then you can configure the compiler, e.g. this line
20141102 21:59:20< Ivanovic> for me it just found that compiler and is happy with it
20141102 21:59:37< iceiceice> did you put e.g. /usr/local/bin/ccache /usr/local/bin/clang++ ?
20141102 21:59:46< Ivanovic> nope
20141102 21:59:50< Ivanovic> this is just the line to the binary
20141102 22:00:00< Ivanovic> so for me it shows /usr/lib64/ccache/bin/c
20141102 22:00:13< Ivanovic> and for CMAKE_C_COMPILER it is /usr/lib64/ccache/bin/cc
20141102 22:00:42< iceiceice> hmm i guess i dont know how ccache actually works, for scons you just say ccache=true
20141102 22:01:05< Ivanovic> on my system it is just transparent
20141102 22:01:17< Ivanovic> no need to even define an extra variable to make use of cmake
20141102 22:01:42< Ivanovic> "echo $PATH" gives me: /games-bin:/usr/lib64/ccache/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.8.3
20141102 22:01:51< iceiceice> but this way, if i didn't know how to do it, scons --help just tells me
20141102 22:01:56< iceiceice> so i found it easily
20141102 22:02:07< Ivanovic> as you can see the dir with the cmake versions of CC and so on is there before /usr/bin
20141102 22:02:13< Ivanovic> so it directly uses ccache
20141102 22:02:22< iceiceice> yeah i'm trying to find an equivalent dir,
20141102 22:02:27< iceiceice> did you make this yourself or it came with cmake package?
20141102 22:02:51< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/GSwwxpS3
20141102 22:03:01< iceiceice> hmm for me its in /usr/lib/ccache, thats kind of odd
20141102 22:03:04< Ivanovic> the ccache package created the dir
20141102 22:03:58< Ivanovic> rechner2 ~ # equery belongs /usr/lib64/ccache/bin/cc
20141102 22:04:00< Ivanovic>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/ccache/bin/cc ... 
20141102 22:04:01< Ivanovic> dev-util/ccache-3.1.10-r1 (/usr/bin/ccache)
20141102 22:05:45< iceiceice> hmm, i had to refresh because the gui got stuck,
20141102 22:05:54< iceiceice> now i cant find the build tool option in the gui
20141102 22:06:17< iceiceice> after `cmake ../wesnoth && ccmake . `
20141102 22:06:50< iceiceice> CMAKE_C_COMPILER is just gone :/
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20141102 22:10:08< iceiceice> build is almost finished without ccache anyways
20141102 22:17:42< iceiceice> mm i have a lib problem, i have recompile a lib actually because i was messing with something else
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20141102 22:21:27< iceiceice> ok, i still can't successfully link, i'm having a problem with libpng but i think its on my end
20141102 22:21:53< iceiceice> Ivanovic: if it's working for you maybe you should just commit the typo fix
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20141102 22:24:45< iceiceice> i get this right now: http://hastebin.com/visibufira.mel
20141102 22:25:06< iceiceice> i think it means libpng needs to be ordered differently on the command line in cmake or someting
20141102 22:25:09< iceiceice> (when building master)
20141102 22:26:50< iceiceice> i think this is the faulty commit:
20141102 22:26:51< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8dfdc6b185f7d9c5d6166f28dd2693fc64a30a27
20141102 22:27:03< iceiceice> i guess i needed to do something more to indicate libpng linkage?
20141102 22:31:31< iceiceice> i can't see what needs to be done.
20141102 22:32:26< iceiceice> i'm leaving for dinner.
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20141102 22:37:15< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4570 (master - 73ad809 : Nils Kneuper): The build was fixed.
20141102 22:37:15< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39779863
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20141102 22:37:35< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#334 (sidecontroller_refactor - cc66b97 : gfgtdf): The build was broken.
20141102 22:37:35< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/39783859
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20141102 22:54:37< irker381> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 f1f109de7635 / src/CMakeLists.txt: fixed building using cmake with -DENABLE_PANDORA=on http://git.io/HfYneQ
20141102 22:54:39< irker381> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master c25de4bd8786 / CMakeLists.txt src/CMakeLists.txt: apply fixes for building the pandora port with cmake to master http://git.io/2keqCw
20141102 22:55:06< Ivanovic> iceiceice: okay, i just tested the fixes for 1.12
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20141102 22:55:15< Ivanovic> so far i have not tried to build master for the pandora
20141102 22:55:34< Ivanovic> but i applied the same fixes i did for 1.12 to master, so maybe it builds, maybe it doesn't
20141102 22:55:59< Ivanovic> n8
20141102 22:57:07< Ivanovic> iceiceice: in fact i can't test master unless i deactivate "treat warnings as errors" which i see as bad style
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20141102 23:28:25< iceiceice> Ivanovic: i don't understand why the cmake file is so wildly out of sync with the scons file
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20141102 23:28:48< iceiceice> the cmake file seems to make extensive use of disabling warnings specifically for certain files
20141102 23:29:18< iceiceice> the scons script doesn't do this, or if it does it's controlled by SConscript files which appear in the folders wiht those files and are just a few lines long.
20141102 23:29:33< iceiceice> also the cmake min versions and scons don't agree.
20141102 23:30:04< iceiceice> i dont think it's my job to clean up the cmake file in this regard, 
20141102 23:30:16< iceiceice> and anyways we know that the project compiles while treating all warnings as errors
20141102 23:30:22< iceiceice> because travis compiles this way every day
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20141102 23:36:04< fabi> iceiceice: The scaling only kicks in when you go beyond 200%. Intended?
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20141102 23:36:16< iceiceice> fabi: yeah
20141102 23:36:21< iceiceice> xbrz only works in integer multiples
20141102 23:36:27< iceiceice> its intrinsic to the algorithm
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20141102 23:36:36< iceiceice> you can only scale 2x, 3x, 4x, or 5x actually
20141102 23:37:04< iceiceice> if you want to go to fractional scaling, you have to xbrz partway and then nearest neighbor / linear the rest of the way
20141102 23:37:21< fabi> is it able to rotate?
20141102 23:37:24< iceiceice> no
20141102 23:37:43< iceiceice> its actually really simple and clever imo how it works,
20141102 23:37:46< iceiceice> basically what it does is,
20141102 23:38:08< iceiceice> for each pixel of output, it looks at a very small neighborhood around the corresponding place in the input
20141102 23:38:10< iceiceice> like a 4 x 4 grid
20141102 23:38:35< iceiceice> it classifies the colors of those pixels using a distance function and a threshold
20141102 23:38:45< iceiceice> and does very basic pattern matching, i.e. it tries to identify if theres an edge
20141102 23:38:46< iceiceice> or a corner
20141102 23:38:49< iceiceice> or not
20141102 23:39:14< iceiceice> each pixel also talks to its immediate neighbors, if they both agree there's an edge then it locally tries to continue it
20141102 23:39:30< iceiceice> if it can't make 2 neighbors agree, it just decides they aren't the same feature,
20141102 23:39:41< iceiceice> and puts some painterly blending between them
20141102 23:40:01< iceiceice> so in a way, it is "locally" vectorizing the image
20141102 23:40:24< iceiceice> the original application was for mame,
20141102 23:40:34< iceiceice> so the idea is you are emulating some SNES game or something with 320 x 200 pixels
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20141102 23:40:35< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#335 (sidecontroller_refactor - b665c54 : gfgtdf): The build is still failing.
20141102 23:40:35< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/39787614
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20141102 23:40:50< iceiceice> and you would run xBRZ at a rate of 60 frames per second constantly to scale up the image to your whole screen
20141102 23:41:00< iceiceice> because it's local its very fast,
20141102 23:41:14< iceiceice> he actually has it set up so you can have mutliple threads in parallel doing different rows of the image
20141102 23:41:32< iceiceice> and when you are processing a row, because it is all local you don't get cache misses
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20141102 23:42:15< iceiceice> the code is not very long, i have played with it in various ways, e.g. commenting out parts of the feature matching code to see what happens
20141102 23:42:30< iceiceice> he also seems to have put a lot of effort into optimizing it,
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20141102 23:42:46< iceiceice> there are many lines that are marked with comments "// 8% perf improvement"
20141102 23:42:47< iceiceice> etc.
20141102 23:42:48< fabi> iceiceice: Do you remember those old adventure games which zoom in for cutscenes?
20141102 23:43:00< iceiceice> uhhh
20141102 23:43:02< iceiceice> like zelda?
20141102 23:43:05< fabi> yes
20141102 23:43:12< iceiceice> yeah
20141102 23:44:14< fabi> iceiceice: What do you think about [zoom]? Everything inside zoom is action wml and displayed in zoomed mode. After every content of zoom is executed it zoom's back.
20141102 23:44:32< iceiceice> yeah it would be a nice thing
20141102 23:44:44< iceiceice> i thought also, i tmight be nice as an option to try zooming in when an attack is performed
20141102 23:44:51< iceiceice> Civ IV does this by default
20141102 23:45:01< fabi> also worth a thought
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20141102 23:46:41< vultraz> um. what good would that be for?
20141102 23:47:18< iceiceice> idk, try playing civ iv and see if you like it
20141102 23:47:45< iceiceice> you can see the animations alot more clearly that way
20141102 23:48:18< iceiceice> fabi: i think also, we need to make like a "camera man" mode for the replay viewer
20141102 23:48:23< iceiceice> that tracks a unit or something
20141102 23:48:41< vultraz> Yes, but A: they would be pixelated very much and B: the frequency of attacks would basically turn your screen into a trampoline
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20141102 23:49:04< iceiceice> vultraz: xBRZ makes it look *much* better
20141102 23:49:15< iceiceice> as far as pixelation is concerned
20141102 23:49:26< vultraz> But isn't it still zoomed-in pixel art?
20141102 23:49:36< iceiceice> it is smoothed by an algorithm
20141102 23:49:44< iceiceice> it's difficult to explain, why don't you build current master
20141102 23:50:18< iceiceice> fabi: i think one thing that makes it hard to make trailers for BFW is,
20141102 23:50:22< fabi> The key is the edge detection. That feature gives acceptable results.
20141102 23:50:34< iceiceice> the normal way that we play is at 1x1 zoom, and the game looks quite good for normal play
20141102 23:50:50< iceiceice> but if you try to make a trailer of normal play, it mostly ends up looking like little ants
20141102 23:51:03< iceiceice> and you can barely see the action if its just a few seconds of trailer
20141102 23:51:19< iceiceice> so all the trailers just have the delfador lightning effect because its the only one you can see
20141102 23:51:54< fabi> right
20141102 23:52:04< vultraz> Hm, point taken
20141102 23:52:39< fabi> making a video in zoomed mode with xBRZ is an option
20141102 23:52:48< fabi> not the whole video
20141102 23:53:27< iceiceice> just some parts
20141102 23:53:47< iceiceice> i think its worht an experiment maybe,
20141102 23:54:02< iceiceice> anyways if there was a "follow one unit" mode in the replay viewer people might like that anyways
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