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20141112 00:31:38< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/40700784
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20141112 02:48:29< iceiceice> fabi: there?
20141112 02:48:36< iceiceice> i have a question about hotkeys
20141112 02:48:37< fabi> iceiceice: yes
20141112 02:49:06< iceiceice> how do i go about adding a new hotkey item?
20141112 02:49:26< fabi> you have two possibilities.
20141112 02:49:31< fabi> 1) By WML
20141112 02:49:37< fabi> 2) By c++
20141112 02:49:55< iceiceice> i think i'm willing to do C++
20141112 02:50:03< iceiceice> at least, i need to make it call C++ functions
20141112 02:50:06< fabi> What kind of hotkey do you like to add?
20141112 02:50:14< iceiceice> i want to make ` bring up a console
20141112 02:50:20< iceiceice> i wrote a lua console dialog
20141112 02:51:52< fabi> iceiceice: Go to the hotkeys.hpp and hotkeys.cpp file. Add your new hotkey to the enumeration and to the list. Then you need to add the new enumeration into some of the handler methods. Greping for the other enumerations will give you an idea.
20141112 02:52:12< iceiceice> ok, thanks
20141112 02:52:19< iceiceice> what is the scope of "General" hotkeys?
20141112 02:52:27< iceiceice> do they apply everywhere, including the titlescreen? or only in some places
20141112 02:52:51< fabi> general are loaded everywhere
20141112 02:52:56< iceiceice> nice :)
20141112 02:53:45< fabi> iceiceice: I am currently debugging that there is no longer a editor terrain mouse overlay.
20141112 02:54:01< fabi> iceiceice: Do you know about changes with the sdl image stuff?
20141112 02:54:08< iceiceice> hmmmm
20141112 02:54:19< iceiceice> are you doing the SDL_GPU thing or not?
20141112 02:54:25< iceiceice> because i know nothing about SDL_GPU
20141112 02:54:42< fabi> The code uses stuff like "scale_surface"
20141112 02:54:49< iceiceice> yeah, so,
20141112 02:54:52< fabi> and mask_surface
20141112 02:54:56< iceiceice> i did make changes to that when i imported xBRZ
20141112 02:55:03< iceiceice> but it's all configurable
20141112 02:55:11< fabi> well that is on 1.13+ right?
20141112 02:55:13< iceiceice> if you go to preferences > display > advanced grpahics options
20141112 02:55:14< fabi> or better master
20141112 02:55:14< iceiceice> ohh yeah
20141112 02:55:18< iceiceice> are you not talking about master?
20141112 02:55:23< fabi> I talk about both branches.
20141112 02:55:27< iceiceice> ok
20141112 02:55:32< fabi> And I don't care about master right now.
20141112 02:55:39< iceiceice> so i did push one change to 1.12 to this stuff,
20141112 02:55:43< iceiceice> the change only affects when you zoom in the game.
20141112 02:55:56< iceiceice> if you have a bug that affects unzoomed then i dont think there have been any recent changes
20141112 02:56:22< iceiceice> unless my patch is seriously broken :)
20141112 02:57:11< iceiceice> patch was like, 1 week ago, if you can reproduce problem in 1.11.17 then that rules that out
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20141112 03:08:41< fabi> iceiceice: It seems to fail when the two images are blitted into a third one. 
20141112 03:08:53< fabi> So everything is fine till I call sdl_blit
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20141112 03:13:03< iceiceice> fabi: what's the test case?
20141112 03:13:25< fabi> iceiceice: The editor terrain mouse overlay.
20141112 03:13:44< fabi> the code is in editor/action/mouse/mouse_action.cpp
20141112 03:14:19< fabi> mouse_action::set_terrain_mouse_overlay(
20141112 03:22:55< fabi> iceiceice: it is alread broken in 1.11.17
20141112 03:23:58< iceiceice> fabi: is it correct that there is no hotkey handler for mp lobby?
20141112 03:24:19< iceiceice> or it's this "basic_handler" that with null pointer to hotkey executor?
20141112 03:24:35< iceiceice> or am i reading the code wrong
20141112 03:24:38< fabi> iceiceice: Sorry, I don't know. 
20141112 03:24:43< iceiceice> ok, thanks
20141112 03:25:00< fabi> iceiceice: The hotkey system is more a gui0 theme wml thing.
20141112 03:25:13< shadowm> fabi: http://i.imgur.com/qICF8kf.png
20141112 03:25:15< fabi> Every gui1 or gui2 support is more or less hacked right now.
20141112 03:25:54< fabi> shadowm: Need more space for the turn counter?
20141112 03:26:30< fabi> shadowm: Do you have a screenshot on 1.10 as well?
20141112 03:27:30< shadowm> Not really, but recreating the situation therein is just a matter of issuing a couple of commands.
20141112 03:27:50< shadowm> :debug :turn_limit 200 :turn 200
20141112 03:29:23< fabi> shadowm: Yeah, slightly less broken.
20141112 03:30:00< shadowm> Personally I wouldn't bother until the theme UI learned to adjust panel sizes to fit their contents, since scenarios with more than 99 turns should be rare enough.
20141112 03:36:56< fabi> shadowm: I like to find some space for it. 
20141112 03:37:26< fabi> shadowm: 3 digits turn numbers should still fit the UI.
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20141112 03:59:26< fabi> shadowm: Do you know which scons options lead to a fast build?
20141112 03:59:44< fabi> shadowm: I am going to bisect some bug.
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20141112 04:04:48< shadowm> Just the usual, -j plus using ccache or distcc if installed.
20141112 04:05:13< fabi> okay
20141112 04:05:16< shadowm> I'm sure you already know about the performance trade-offs of O2 vs. O0 builds depending on your system configuration.
20141112 04:05:24< fabi> no
20141112 04:05:32< fabi> please tell me
20141112 04:05:39< fabi> and how I can adjust them properly
20141112 04:05:42< shadowm> O2 requires less RAM at the linking step, which is good, but uses more CPU time.
20141112 04:05:57< shadowm> O0 uses far less CPU time and requires far more RAM at the linking step.
20141112 04:06:36< iceiceice> fabi: this is my "build_normal.sh" shell script which i use for normal development: http://hastebin.com/ayafeliwoc.bash
20141112 04:06:40< shadowm> E.g. on my laptops I'd consistently run out of RAM during O0 builds nowadays because of the ridiculously large amount of object code that needs to be tied together.
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20141112 04:07:02< fabi> shadowm: Which is the default? How to adjust it?
20141112 04:07:24< iceiceice> the default for release is -O2
20141112 04:07:27< shadowm> scons build=release selects -O2 (unless you customized compiler flags to do otherwise), build=debug selects -O0.
20141112 04:07:50< iceiceice> fabi: i like to use extra_flags_release="-O0" to make release builds with O0
20141112 04:07:56< shadowm> I actually have build=release configured to use -O3 instead via extra_flags_release.
20141112 04:08:14< iceiceice> becasue the debugging symbols take too much memory
20141112 04:08:37< shadowm> I also have extra_flags_config=-pipe set (extra_flags_config is used for all builds).
20141112 04:09:33< fabi> iceiceice: is clang faster than gcc?
20141112 04:09:38< shadowm> On gcc, the -pipe option is used to pass intermediate code through the compiler backends using IPC instead of temporary files. I don't think there's much to be gained from it if your /tmp is on tmpfs or a SSD.
20141112 04:09:44< iceiceice> fabi: it is significantly faster in my experience
20141112 04:09:58< iceiceice> like, 2x
20141112 04:10:25< iceiceice> i think it depends whether you have optimizations on though,
20141112 04:10:32< iceiceice> i'm not sure if you see 2x when you make -O0 builds
20141112 04:10:54< shadowm> clang and gcc have just about the same performance IME, both with wesnoth and a small project of mine.
20141112 04:11:35< shadowm> I can build Wesnoth from scratch in under 5 minutes, so I don't particularly care about objective differences.
20141112 04:15:33< fabi> shadowm: What machine builds it in under 5 minutes?
20141112 04:18:32< fabi> iceiceice: Your commandline leads to -O2 and -O0. Is that okay so?
20141112 04:18:37< iceiceice> yes
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20141112 04:59:30< fabi> iceiceice: It is https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/31b068ba3f43973e23a004af07bd7b64e5ed3108
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20141112 08:38:18< iceiceice> fabi: very interesting
20141112 08:38:25< iceiceice> so wait how do i reproduce?
20141112 08:59:14< fabi> iceiceice: hi
20141112 08:59:20< fabi> iceiceice: just start the editor
20141112 08:59:31< fabi> and watch every tool having a mouse overlay
20141112 08:59:43< fabi> just not those terrain specific ones.
20141112 08:59:49< fabi> draw and fill
20141112 09:12:16< iceiceice> fabi: so right now just with draw and fill i'm also seeing a golden honeycomb everywhere,
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20141112 09:12:19< iceiceice> that's not a bug?
20141112 09:12:26< iceiceice> i dont remember if that used to happen or not
20141112 09:12:41< iceiceice> i don't think its actually a hindrance but i feel like i woudl ahve remembered
20141112 09:13:20< iceiceice> hmm ok
20141112 09:13:26< iceiceice> and i dont get it with the unit tool or the starting pos tool
20141112 09:15:05< fabi> iceiceice: Nothing unusual here, except that the overlay is missing. 
20141112 09:16:35< iceiceice> ok i will compile old version
20141112 09:17:32< iceiceice> what overlay exactly?
20141112 09:17:39< iceiceice> the overlay corresponding to a unit?
20141112 09:17:57< fabi> both, the foreground and the background terrain are overlayed.
20141112 09:18:39< fabi> I speak about the terrain selected in the palette.
20141112 09:19:02< fabi> iceiceice: What is the point of the breaking commit?
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20141112 09:19:44< iceiceice> make the game look better by reducing visual artifacts
20141112 09:20:18< iceiceice> we basically put a strange hack into the scaling routine in 2005 to combat a different problem,
20141112 09:20:36< iceiceice> that was later solved independently, so in sept i removed the hack so we can see if anything is broken
20141112 09:20:43< iceiceice> this is the first report that anything is wrong
20141112 09:21:58< iceiceice> fabi: you say that the artifact is visible even when *not* zooming?
20141112 09:22:14< iceiceice> because that would surprise me a little
20141112 09:22:28< fabi> iceiceice: I don't see any artifiact. I just miss the overlay.
20141112 09:22:29< iceiceice> maybe overlays get scaled always or something
20141112 09:22:47< iceiceice> do the overlays have very low alpha or something?
20141112 09:23:09< fabi> they have alpha
20141112 09:23:11< iceiceice> note that i havent reproduced yet
20141112 09:24:17< iceiceice> fabi: what does the overlay looklike/
20141112 09:24:20< iceiceice> ?
20141112 09:24:35< fabi> terrains
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20141112 10:20:19< iceiceice> fabi: sorry, i got distracted
20141112 10:20:20< iceiceice> i see it now
20141112 10:20:59< iceiceice> i dont see why that commit would have changed it,
20141112 10:21:05< iceiceice> i guess i should build before and after it
20141112 10:22:00< iceiceice> anyways i don't think it should be too hard to patch this, even without properly debugging it yet, we could always just add a legacy version of the function just for this specific editor use if we have to
20141112 10:33:08< fabi> iceiceice: Indeed. Are you going to take care about it?
20141112 10:33:56< iceiceice> are you sure that my commit introduced it?
20141112 10:34:07< iceiceice> i can test this but i haven't yet
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20141112 10:44:22< fabi> iceiceice: Your commit is the result of the bisecting. Just reintroducing the line you removed into 1.12 HEAD solves the problem.
20141112 10:45:18< iceiceice> fabi: do you know where the line is that is blitting these images together?
20141112 10:45:46< fabi> iceiceice: yes
20141112 10:45:56< fabi> iceiceice: I told you already. 
20141112 10:46:41< iceiceice> i have to look through the logs for it
20141112 10:47:03< fabi> <fabi> the code is in editor/action/mouse/mouse_action.cpp
20141112 10:47:03< fabi> <fabi> mouse_action::set_terrain_mouse_overlay(
20141112 10:47:25< fabi> The method is only small.
20141112 10:56:39< fabi> iceiceice: A fresh produced Elvish Rider is named "Thrarararar". Not very Japanese friendly.
20141112 10:58:24< iceiceice> fabi: do you know if there is an IPF which performs "adjust surface alpha" ?
20141112 10:58:41< iceiceice> i think it would be helpful to view the image composition sequence and see what is actually changing
20141112 10:59:12< iceiceice> if not i guess i will make one on master
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20141112 11:01:43< fabi> iceiceice: Can't we just revert the commit and go with the line for the 1.12 release?
20141112 11:03:10< iceiceice> i would rather figure out what the real bug is than just start reverting things
20141112 11:03:26< iceiceice> this commit improved some other problems, we have to fix this on master anyways
20141112 11:03:54< iceiceice> if we become desperate sure revert, but we aren't there yet
20141112 11:04:15< iceiceice> i'm not convinced the bug is actually in my commit, it might have just made it obvious
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20141112 16:08:00< shikadibot> mattsc: The person with the nick thunderstruck last spoke 6d 19h ago.  18h 20m ago they left with the message:
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20141112 17:26:51< gfgtdf> anyone else have problems with forum currently ?
20141112 17:27:22< ancestral> gfgtdf: Seems to be okay for me
20141112 17:28:42< gfgtdf> ancestral: ok ty
20141112 17:28:44< ancestral> iceiceice appears to have just posted a few minutes ago successfully
20141112 17:28:50< iceiceice> yeah it was super laggy
20141112 17:28:55< iceiceice> but now it recovered i guess
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20141112 19:03:08< Dugi> fabi: Are you here?
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20141112 21:16:26< shadowm> vultraz: The mainline campfire uses 200 ms frames instead of 150 ms. :\
20141112 21:17:31< shadowm> I don't know about you, but that looks weird.
20141112 21:21:46< mattsc> shadowm: hi
20141112 21:22:05< mattsc> besides the upstream bug, is there still anything else left on your list of must-do for 1.12.0?
20141112 21:22:37< shadowm> mattsc: Are you counting that bug in that list?
20141112 21:23:01< mattsc> shadowm: I thought you told me that I should (but not list it since it’s private)
20141112 21:23:12< shadowm> I have to look into another bug with persistent WML variables but I don't think it's a must-do in spite of its severity.
20141112 21:23:24< shadowm> mattsc: I can't do anything until upstream says a word.
20141112 21:23:55< shadowm> I'm seriously wondering right now why so many projects rely on such an unresponsive upstream.
20141112 21:24:16< mattsc> okay - I thought we talked about using a local, changed version of the library as a fall-back option; but if that’s not the case, no problem with me
20141112 21:24:32< shadowm> Yes, we talked about it but I'm not sure I want to do it.
20141112 21:24:38< mattsc> okay
20141112 21:25:08< mattsc> So the only must-do left then is disabling SoS saves in MP.
20141112 21:25:12< shadowm> It'll be another thorn in our side like Lua.
20141112 21:25:31< mattsc> gfgtdf, iceiceice: have you heard anything from thunderstruck on that?
20141112 21:25:45< mattsc> shadowm: indeed
20141112 21:26:44< shadowm> Also, is Ivanovic aware of the bug?
20141112 21:27:15< shadowm> https://gna.org/bugs/?20815
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20141112 21:28:47< shadowm> I may go and figure out a way to replace all SDL_ttf-based code with Pango/Cairo, but it won't happen for 1.12.0 and I can't really guarantee it'll happen for 1.12.1 either.
20141112 21:29:17< shadowm> I would advise mattsc and loonycyborg to ship patched versions of SDL_ttf for now, though.
20141112 21:30:12< mattsc> shadowm: patched with what you put into your upstream report?
20141112 21:30:25< loonycyborg> Is there a patched dll somewhere? Or I need to build my own, with blackjack and hookers?
20141112 21:30:48< shadowm> loonycyborg: You need to build your own and I didn't understand the rest.
20141112 21:31:00< loonycyborg> futurama reference
20141112 21:31:14< shadowm> mattsc: No, that patch won't apply. Let me post the 1.2.x-based SDL_ttf patch to our tracker...
20141112 21:32:01< mattsc> loonycyborg: they are probably hookerbots in that case though, right?
20141112 21:32:19< mattsc> shadowm: okay; I’ll try to figure out how to do that
20141112 21:32:20< loonycyborg> probably
20141112 21:33:22< shadowm> Done.
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20141112 21:37:24< mattsc> shadowm: hmm, I might run into the same OS X 10.5 backward compatibility problem here as I did with SDL_mixer …
20141112 21:37:52< mattsc> I’ll see what I can do, but I won’t be able to do anything about it until I am back home on the weekend.
20141112 21:44:18< gfgtdf> mattsc: no didnt
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20141112 21:46:18< mattsc> gfgtdf: me neither.  Are you able to disable SoS saves in MP if it comes to that?
20141112 21:46:34< mattsc> As in, if thunderstruck won’t be back before the weekend?
20141112 21:47:13< gfgtdf> mattsc: the start-of scenario save is enerated here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/1.12/src/playcampaign.cpp#L631
20141112 21:48:26< gfgtdf> mattsc: maybe putting the line into a if(io_type == IO_NONE) is enough
20141112 21:49:10< mattsc> gfgtdf: yeah, makes sense  (from my naive point of view, at least)
20141112 21:49:39< gfgtdf> mattsc: liek replacing "if(save_game_after_scenario)" with  if(save_game_after_scenario && io_type == IO_NONE)
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20141112 23:43:44< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#357 (variable_info_3_refactor - ea2386a : gfgtdf): The build was broken.
20141112 23:43:44< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/40827915
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20141112 23:53:27< gfgtdf> iceiceice: travis now gives me error like "fatal error: error writing to /tmp/ccp0SQQY.s: No space left on device"
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20141112 23:56:42< irker174> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 54e27d2d3f77 / src/ (14 files in 7 dirs): rename team::is_human() -> is_local_human http://git.io/uYAnKg
20141112 23:56:44< irker174> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master ea2386a8a713 / src/game_initialization/connect_engine.cpp: simplyfy conditional structure http://git.io/lyU8gA
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