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20141122 00:40:07< vultraz> shadowm: given that, I'd think a change would be in order. 
20141122 00:40:45< shadowm> Upgrade, not necessarily change.
20141122 00:40:57< vultraz> er, yes
20141122 00:41:11< vultraz> That's what I meant. Sorry, just woke up
20141122 00:42:14< shadowm> The problem is finding out exactly which of Google's two current solutions (one paid, the other non-paid) is the one equivalent to that and Dave tends to be hard to contact. :\
20141122 00:42:49< shadowm> And also whether it really matters (i.e. did we sign up for ad revenue) because I'd rather just remove the whole thing.
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20141122 00:43:04< vultraz> So would I - who uses it anyway?
20141122 00:43:08< vultraz> AH, mattsc!
20141122 00:43:20< shadowm> Nobody, that's why.
20141122 00:43:22< shadowm> *who
20141122 00:43:25< mattsc> hmm?
20141122 00:44:41< vultraz> mattsc: I'm getting an MAI error: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4qnzdbwi4lzu4s0/guardianMAIerror.PNG?dl=0
20141122 00:47:02< mattsc> vultraz: hmm.  I know what the error means, but I can’t tell anything without knowing the situation, unfortunately.  Do you have a way to reproduce this?  A save or something?
20141122 00:48:33< vultraz> Yes, but before we start debugging, am I forgetting any keys or something similarly stupid? http://pastebin.com/jGcCCE2L
20141122 00:49:58< mattsc> vultraz: no, that covers all the required keys
20141122 00:50:30< vultraz> Hmm
20141122 00:50:33< vultraz> Well, https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nyz9ejwb1l7hic/SoD-Pursuit_Turn_16.gz?dl=0
20141122 00:50:42< mattsc> what that error means is that the “move unit here” action is called with nil for ‘here’.  Which should never happen, even if no move possible, so it’s clearly a bug.
20141122 00:50:53< vultraz> Unfortunately that's from my campaign so you'll need a copy of it
20141122 00:51:11< mattsc> It’s the one you keep commiting to on umc-dev?
20141122 00:51:20< vultraz> shadowm first noticed it yesterday when playtesting. Seems to happen every time the affected unit moved
20141122 00:51:23< vultraz> GitHub
20141122 00:51:34< vultraz> https://github.com/Vultraz/NX-RPG
20141122 00:51:35< mattsc> Well, the messages show up on umc-dev, I mean
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20141122 00:52:58< mattsc> vultraz: okay, I’ll check it out as soon as possible
20141122 00:53:25< vultraz> Thanks. In the meantime, should I just disable the MAI for that scenario?
20141122 00:57:10< mattsc> I can’t really say that without knowing more.  Are you planning to release in the next 24h?
20141122 00:57:53< vultraz> Yes.
20141122 00:58:00< vultraz> This is the last blocker
20141122 00:58:37< vultraz> (though I'm sure I've forgotten something and will have to hotfix 0.5.3a but whatever :P )
20141122 00:58:49< mattsc> well, in that case ...
20141122 00:58:57< mattsc> can you do with one of the other guardians?
20141122 01:00:38< vultraz> Hm. I was actually thinking of just removing it, since there's no real complex behavior for the guy
20141122 01:01:20< vultraz> Though, that reminds me, does the hang out MAI allow the affected units to attack?
20141122 01:01:58< mattsc> If you set the ca_score= key correctly, yes
20141122 01:02:15< mattsc> vultraz: error config: Macro/file '~add-ons/NX-RPG/dist/VERSION' is missing
20141122 01:02:22< vultraz> Wha?
20141122 01:02:35< vultraz> well that's weird
20141122 01:03:16< mattsc> Hmm, I just got the zip from github
20141122 01:04:08< mattsc> ugh, stupid Apple crap!
20141122 01:04:29< vultraz> hm?
20141122 01:06:54< mattsc> “VERSION can’t be opened because it’s from an unidentified developer”
20141122 01:07:06< vultraz> wat
20141122 01:07:12< vultraz> seriously, that;s a thing now?
20141122 01:07:20< mattsc> My computer does not know you!  :P
20141122 01:07:26< vultraz> hah xD
20141122 01:09:13< vultraz> ah, I tried the hang out mai. The behavior is exactly right
20141122 01:09:18< vultraz> I'll stick with this
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20141122 01:11:56< mattsc> vultraz: okay.  I’d like to know what’s going on with the error message you got anyway; and why your campaign is giving me all sorts of trouble.
20141122 01:12:21< vultraz> I'd like to know the latter too. It really shouldn't
20141122 01:15:26< mattsc> vultraz: ah, the first problem is that the zip file decompresses into directory NX-RPS-master/
20141122 01:15:33< vultraz> Ah
20141122 01:15:37< vultraz> Well, that explains it :P
20141122 01:15:37< mattsc> *RPG
20141122 01:15:50< mattsc> but it still doesn’t run after I change that.  :(
20141122 01:18:04< vultraz> You did refresh the cache right :P
20141122 01:18:57< mattsc> No, I restarted, which takes care of that  ;)
20141122 01:19:08< mattsc> Anyways, I uninstalled and reinstalled, now it’s working.
20141122 01:19:14< mattsc> And I can reproduce the error.
20141122 01:19:21< mattsc> I am also seeing a different Lua error.
20141122 01:19:27< iceiceice> mattsc: fwiw i actually have my doubts about the config cache mechanism,
20141122 01:19:40< iceiceice> Ravana reported that sometimes its necessary to delete the cache manually
20141122 01:19:46< iceiceice> sometimes i find that this makes a difference
20141122 01:19:55< vultraz> A different one?
20141122 01:20:18< mattsc> iceiceice: hmm, that would possible explain some things that I have experienced previously.
20141122 01:21:06< mattsc> vultraz: http://pastebin.com/vX9cNnhX
20141122 01:21:20< mattsc> I have to be off now though, I’ll be back later.
20141122 01:21:36< mattsc> off = afk  (I’ll stay online)
20141122 01:22:38< vultraz> mattsc: ah, you didn't read the readme. You need the lp8 module
20141122 01:24:40< vultraz> mattsc: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dn9vc8v5nd43ejq/wesnoth-lp8.7z?dl=0 unzip that and stick it in lua/lp8
20141122 01:26:03< mattsc> vultraz: why would I read the readme???  ;)
20141122 01:26:18< vultraz> :P
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20141122 01:34:08< c74d> mattsc: that’s also available at <https://github.com/8573/wesnoth-lp8>, in case that works better for you.
20141122 01:34:40< c74d> (Unless vultraz made some modifications to it?)
20141122 01:34:49< vultraz> I have not
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20141122 02:09:40< irker808> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master ba46cc80b145 / / (5 files in 2 dirs): add command history and history expansion to lua console http://git.io/cfJIyQ
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20141122 02:16:01< mattsc> c74d: thanks
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20141122 02:16:54 * vultraz gasps
20141122 02:16:57< vultraz> COMMAND HISTORY!
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20141122 02:36:15< mattsc> vultraz: the reason for the error is that you have set the station for Garag so that he cannot reach it.
20141122 02:36:32< mattsc> There is secretly impassable terrain in between him and 12,13
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20141122 02:37:42< mattsc> So, I guess we could argue whether that’s a bug in the MAI or in your scenario, but I will put something into the candidate action code to prevent this from happening anyway.
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20141122 02:38:12< mattsc> Well, prevent the error from happening, I mean.
20141122 02:38:21< iceiceice> vultraz: you were entirely too excited about that :)
20141122 02:38:30< mattsc> I will set it up so that the unit simply won’t move in that case.
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20141122 03:17:04< vultraz> mattsc: that awkward moment when you meant 12,21 and put 12,13 ._.
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20141122 03:17:52< vultraz> mattsc: in any case, hang_out for 12,13 gives me the behavior I want,
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20141122 03:20:00< vultraz> Ok, same behavior when set for the correct loc
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20141122 03:21:08< mattsc> vultraz: I meant: “station_x,station_y=12,13"
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20141122 03:21:48< vultraz> mattsc: still, it was supposed to be 21 not 13
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20141122 03:22:19< mattsc> vultraz: well, but in the code I downloaded, it wasn’t.  It was 12,13, and that’s whar caused the error message,
20141122 03:22:20< vultraz> I've changed it for the hangout and it still gives desired behavior, at least. No hotfix needed :P
20141122 03:22:36< vultraz> Yes, I know
20141122 03:22:41< vultraz> It was a mistake on my part
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20141122 03:23:05< mattsc> vultraz: that probably means that the HO MAI knows how to deal with unreachable destinations, and the SG does not.  :)
20141122 03:23:22< mattsc> As I said, I’ll change that in the latter.
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20141122 03:23:51< mattsc> vultraz: But either way, I’m glad that you found a solution that works for you!
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20141122 03:24:54< vultraz> And we found a bug/issue :)
20141122 03:25:04< mattsc> vultraz: oh, I see.  You meant ‘you’ as in ‘one’ up there, rather than ‘you’ as in ‘mattsc’  :P
20141122 03:25:16< mattsc> hehe
20141122 03:25:35< mattsc> yep (on the bug)
20141122 03:25:42< mattsc> thanmks
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20141122 03:26:52< vultraz> Yeah, I meant the former :P
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20141122 03:42:56< irker808> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 0014ef3f46aa / changelog data/ai/micro_ais/cas/ca_stationed_guardian.lua: Station Guardian MAI: bug fix for unreachable stations http://git.io/7WUXMg
20141122 03:45:08< irker808> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master f111bf3c01b3 / changelog data/ai/micro_ais/cas/ca_stationed_guardian.lua: Station Guardian MAI: bug fix for unreachable stations http://git.io/yB80JQ
20141122 03:45:26< vultraz> :D
20141122 03:45:54< mattsc> indeed  :)  I’ll add a note to the wiki as well
20141122 03:47:34< mattsc> vultraz: thanks for reporting.
20141122 03:48:53< mattsc> Now back to Grnk   8) 
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20141122 03:52:01< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4866 (master - ba46cc8 : Chris Beck): The build passed.
20141122 03:52:01< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/41780324
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20141122 04:03:27< irker808> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master ba4276ea3144 / data/lua/ilua.lua src/scripting/lua_kernel_base.cpp: add "ilua" helper functions for lua interpreter http://git.io/tp2jdA
20141122 04:03:29< irker808> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master db7643c253cb / changelog data/ai/micro_ais/cas/ca_stationed_guardian.lua: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/ssqwWw
20141122 04:03:31< irker808> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 4a2eb886074b / src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): allow lua console to handle expressions http://git.io/CzGeNA
20141122 04:05:20< vultraz> I realized you're referring to the "lua console"
20141122 04:05:22< vultraz> what's that?
20141122 04:05:32< irker808> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 316c7afba4f1 / changelog: update changelog http://git.io/7FDQJQ
20141122 04:05:42< iceiceice> vultraz: if you compile master and press "`"
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20141122 04:05:50< iceiceice> or if you press it in the game
20141122 04:06:00< iceiceice> or if you click on button from gamestate inspector,
20141122 04:06:10< iceiceice> you can directly interrogate the in-game lua
20141122 04:06:15< vultraz> oo
20141122 04:06:17< iceiceice> and run scripts or commands whatever
20141122 04:06:43< shadowm> There is really no way that can be backported to 1.12, right?
20141122 04:07:31< iceiceice> it would break a lot of rules :)
20141122 04:07:40< vultraz> :(
20141122 04:08:16< shadowm> I mean, does it rely a lot on changed/refactored/reengineered core code?
20141122 04:08:26< iceiceice> actually the way i've set it up it does,
20141122 04:08:45< iceiceice> in master the class LuaKernel which silene added before, is now like an inheritance hierarchy
20141122 04:09:17< iceiceice> there has been a lot of renovations to the src/scripting folder
20141122 04:09:25< iceiceice> *have been
20141122 04:10:43< iceiceice> i figure that, if i'm going to start developing lua for wesnoth i want to develop things like this beforehand
20141122 04:11:31< shadowm> Well, that didn't quite explain much but I can fill in the gaps myself I guess.
20141122 04:13:55< vultraz> shadowm: I like your general frontpage revisions 
20141122 04:14:27< shadowm> I didn't make any user-visible front page revisions.
20141122 04:14:42< vultraz> You linked this earlier http://www.wesnoth.org/index-1.12-4328904823.html
20141122 04:14:43< shadowm> Other than updating the Twitter follow widget I guess.
20141122 04:14:51< shadowm> Yes.
20141122 04:15:23< shadowm> I also switched the XML feed link to the News forum feed as I actually planned to do like a year ago.
20141122 04:16:13< shadowm> Though whether that qualifies as user-visible is probably somewhat of a gray area now that XML feed visibility in modern browsers is really low.
20141122 04:17:08< vultraz> Why does the screenshot have to the The Elves Besieged, though
20141122 04:17:45< shadowm> *groan*
20141122 04:18:03< iceiceice> shadowm: it possibly could be backported but not without some pain
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20141122 04:20:42< vultraz> shadowm: can you change the link under Join Us to http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Support#Community
20141122 04:20:51< vultraz> As opposed to http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Community which is a redirect
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20141122 05:04:16< irker808> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 2152b48a14ab / CMakeLists.txt SConstruct: scons, cmake: by default, search for GNU readline support http://git.io/pRIiKA
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20141122 05:37:30< shadowm> loonycyborg: Please confirm that the Windows package on SF.net is now fixed for real.
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20141122 05:41:35< vultraz> Heh
20141122 05:41:42< vultraz> 12:58, March 10, 2008 Ivanovic (Talk | contribs | block) restored page Community (1 revision(s) restored: reidercts are good, don't remove them unless it really is needed!)
20141122 05:41:54< vultraz> Now it is
20141122 05:43:22< shadowm> Says who and why?
20141122 05:44:25< vultraz> I'm in the process of gradually fixing links that go to redirects and linking them to their new source, then purging the former.
20141122 05:44:51< shadowm> I'd rather keep functional redirects like this one.
20141122 05:45:02< vultraz> How is it functional?
20141122 05:45:20< shadowm> It serves as a stand-in for a real Community page.
20141122 05:46:06< vultraz> I'll deal with that later
20141122 05:46:22< shadowm> Then I'll restore it in the meantime.
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20141122 05:47:19< vultraz> Can redirect pages be edited like normal ones?
20141122 05:47:44< shadowm> Shouldn't you know that?
20141122 05:48:10< shadowm> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=Community&redirect=no
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20141122 05:50:48< vultraz> Alright, alright
20141122 05:51:09< vultraz> Speaking of community, I think we should get rid of the mention of #wesnoth-xp
20141122 05:51:30< shadowm> What mention of what now?
20141122 05:51:48< vultraz> It's a channel with nothing but shikadibot 
20141122 05:52:25< shadowm> I don't see any such thing.
20141122 05:53:00< vultraz> Any such channel or reference?
20141122 05:53:03< vultraz> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Support#Community under Other
20141122 05:53:20< shadowm> Nope?
20141122 05:54:44< vultraz> I see
20141122 05:54:54< vultraz> You appear to have gotten there ahead of me in the last hour
20141122 05:55:25< shadowm> I have no idea what you are talking about, it probably was another shadowm.
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20141122 05:56:25< ancestral> vultraz: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=History&redirect=no
20141122 05:58:38< vultraz> Are there two shadowms?
20141122 05:58:56< shadowm> I wouldn't rule it out.
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20141122 06:00:34< vultraz> Why did the link to #wesnoth-umc-dev disappear
20141122 06:01:25< shadowm> Does anyone even who wasn't already using it two years ago even use Wesnoth-UMC-Dev anymore?
20141122 06:01:50< shadowm> It's an obsolete concept. It really needs to be put to rest.
20141122 06:02:52< vultraz> The only commits I see anymore are to Random Campaign
20141122 06:03:01< vultraz> But yeah...
20141122 06:03:04< vultraz> you're right
20141122 06:06:21< vultraz> Well, we still have our music packs. I'd like to get mine off of there but I think there was some reason I couldn't put it on GH?
20141122 06:07:49< vultraz> good call anyway
20141122 06:11:44< vultraz> shadowm: kill the dash in single-player
20141122 06:11:57< vultraz> (front page)
20141122 06:12:21< c74d> Why?
20141122 06:12:41< vultraz> I believe 'singleplayer' is more commonly used
20141122 06:12:57< c74d> Hrmft. Apparently Wiktionary agrees with you.
20141122 06:13:29< vultraz> shadowm: Also, you're linking to Description twice in the first paragraph. Recommend removing the link in 'The Battle For Wesnoth' and keep it in 'more'
20141122 06:15:34< vultraz> there shouldn't be a comma after 'singleplayer' either
20141122 06:18:42 * c74d concurs.
20141122 06:20:50< c74d> “single-player campaigns and online or hotseat multi-player battles”, was my version.
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20141122 06:21:45< vultraz> There should be dashes in neither
20141122 06:21:54< vultraz> “singleplayer campaigns and online or hotseat multiplayer battles”
20141122 06:23:16< c74d> I stand by the validity of my hyphenations, though I impugn not that of your de-hyphenations.
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20141122 07:32:02< irker808> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master d95b181eaa2f / utils/mp-server/update_server: update_server: Show locations of scons' output http://git.io/xhOpCA
20141122 07:39:20< shadowm> scons 1.0.1 can no longer build Wesnoth it seems.
20141122 07:39:33< shadowm>   File "/home/wesnoth/source/1.12/src/SConscript", line 66
20141122 07:39:36< shadowm>     filesystem_env.Object("filesystem_boost.cpp") if env["boostfilesystem"] else filesystem_env.Object("filesystem.cpp"),
20141122 07:39:40< shadowm>   SyntaxError: invalid syntax
20141122 07:40:12< shadowm> Or actually it might be the fact I'm running Python 2.3.4.
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20141122 07:41:12< vultraz> Why are you running such an old version
20141122 07:41:58< shadowm> Is that a question? If so why do you ask such questions?
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20141122 07:58:41< shadowm> SDL 1.2.7 is no longer adequate to build Wesnoth:
20141122 07:58:42< shadowm> /home/wesnoth/source/1.12/src/filesystem_common.cpp:233: error: `RW_SEEK_SET' was not declared in this scope
20141122 07:58:46< shadowm> /home/wesnoth/source/1.12/src/filesystem_common.cpp:238: error: `RW_SEEK_CUR' was not declared in this scope
20141122 07:58:49< shadowm> /home/wesnoth/source/1.12/src/filesystem_common.cpp:241: error: `RW_SEEK_END' was not declared in this scope
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20141122 08:02:48< vultraz> Ivanovic: can we remove the 'previous version' download links from the downloads page?
20141122 08:02:53< vultraz> s/we/I
20141122 08:03:14< Ivanovic> vultraz: just check how it was done during the 1.10.0 release
20141122 08:03:31< Ivanovic> vultraz: i would keep those links for cases where the latest version is broken for users
20141122 08:03:39< Ivanovic> due to some regression
20141122 08:03:50 * shadowm would too.
20141122 08:03:55< vultraz> Shouldn't that only be for dev series?
20141122 08:04:33< Ivanovic> problems with fixes can always arrise
20141122 08:04:52< Ivanovic> i am not sure if / when we had those significant breaks between two stable versions
20141122 08:05:06< shadowm> It's always a possibility.
20141122 08:05:09< Ivanovic> but it tends to happen every now and then for basically any project, even huge ones with good quality assurance
20141122 08:05:25< Ivanovic> and let's face it, our quality assurance for releases is, uhm, very basic
20141122 08:06:21< vultraz> Alright
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20141122 08:53:48-!- shadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.12.0 tagged, announcing on Sun 23rd Nov 00:00 UTC+00:00 | hard string+feature freeze active on 1.12 until announcement posted |  Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs (down): http://wesnoth.debian.net
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20141122 13:40:09< SZ_Bot> about 22.Nov 03:19:48 : #wesnoth-dev : iceiceice : Ravana reported that sometimes its necessary to delete the cache manually | I mostly mean when changing stuff like team colors hex values, however I have also had to delete cache after wml syntax error, else that addon would just be skipped
20141122 13:47:27< loonycyborg> shadowm: Yeah, I uploaded working one
20141122 13:47:35< loonycyborg> without files from wrong branch
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20141122 14:59:48< SZ_Bot> LoW mp version carryover is broken in 1.12.0 too, http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41098&p=577968
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20141122 17:16:40< vultraz> shadowm: please remember to change 17:21:52]	vultraz	“singleplayer campaigns and online or hotseat multiplayer battles” on the fp if I'm not around
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20141122 17:39:15< irker278> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 6b4b4414c12e / src/gui/dialogs/lua_interpreter.cpp: refactor lua interpreter: clean up readline uses http://git.io/jKZ2hw
20141122 17:39:17< irker278> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master d70fcb2adbb1 / src/gui/dialogs/lua_interpreter.cpp: refactor lua interpreter: move readline uses (history expansion) http://git.io/GXHMmw
20141122 17:39:19< irker278> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master fd68986bc7dc / src/gui/dialogs/lua_interpreter.cpp: add support for pageup / pagedown in lua_interpreter input bar http://git.io/nRmpPA
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20141122 18:32:39< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you added a new dependency in it? can you please add the dll + headers in a windows dependency package then ?
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20141122 19:02:46< iceiceice> gfgtdf: the new dependency is optional, you don't need it
20141122 19:03:07< iceiceice> also its experimental, i may decide to get rid of it or do it differently still
20141122 19:05:39< iceiceice> it's also possible that it has non-ascii filesystem issues just like gnu gettext
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20141122 19:18:40< gfgtdf> iceiceice: is does read/write to disk ?
20141122 19:18:48< iceiceice> yes
20141122 19:18:58< gfgtdf> iceiceice: why ?
20141122 19:19:11< iceiceice> so that you can save command history across sessions
20141122 19:20:17< gfgtdf> iceiceice: and we dont store that data in our preferneces file?
20141122 19:20:40< iceiceice> its formatted according to however this c library formats it
20141122 19:23:39< iceiceice> if it doesn't do non-ascii filesystem correctly, it doesn't really matter... it will just not find the old session i guess
20141122 19:24:05< iceiceice> but i dont want to think about it right now, there's other things that need to be figured out first right now
20141122 19:28:19< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i want to make a change to the lua environment on master,
20141122 19:28:28< iceiceice> i want to use the "set_strict" function in this script: http://lua-users.org/files/wiki_insecure/users/steved/ilua.lua
20141122 19:29:00< iceiceice> it will make it so that you must assign global variables before using them, or it is an error
20141122 19:29:25< iceiceice> so it is technically a compatibility breaking change, but i think it is a big improvement and well worth it
20141122 19:29:32< iceiceice> the user can also disable the change
20141122 19:29:44< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm why shoudl i want that ?
20141122 19:29:55< iceiceice> because if i make a typo in my script, i want it to tell me
20141122 19:30:01< iceiceice> instead of pretending everything is fine
20141122 19:30:05< iceiceice> that is very unfriendly to the user
20141122 19:31:11< iceiceice> also it will make the lua console work much better
20141122 19:31:24< iceiceice> right now if you just type many random letters and press enter,
20141122 19:31:34< iceiceice> it is not a syntax error, it is a valid expression resolving to "nil"
20141122 19:31:49< iceiceice> so you get no obvious response, instead of "error: that was some gibberish"
20141122 19:31:55< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you want taht onyl in teh lua console or everyywhere ?
20141122 19:32:07< iceiceice> i want it in the lua kernel base constructor
20141122 19:32:11< iceiceice> so for everywhere
20141122 19:32:41< iceiceice> i think you will get able to disable it by typing "setmetatable(_G, nil)"
20141122 19:32:52< iceiceice> *be able to
20141122 19:33:37< gfgtdf> iceiceice: for example when another addon adds a global variable "my_addon_aa" and you want to check whether that addon is existent you coudl usualy use "my_addon_aa == nil" which woudl be invalid with your new syntax
20141122 19:33:55< iceiceice> you could put it in pcall i guess
20141122 19:34:20< gfgtdf> iceiceice: still taht complicate
20141122 19:34:37< iceiceice> i think it greatly improves the maintainability of all add-ons though
20141122 19:35:51< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm i don't think i ever had aproblem with such a typo in  a global variable name.
20141122 19:36:07< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i think maybe you could use "rawget(_G, my_addon_aa)"
20141122 19:36:21< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i have had many such probelms in WML,
20141122 19:36:30< iceiceice> delete one letter of a variable, it's not a syntax error,
20141122 19:36:41< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i never uses much wml.
20141122 19:36:43< iceiceice> delete a $ in a variable dereference, its not a syntax error.,
20141122 19:37:00< iceiceice> gfgtdf: but this is actually a problem for both lua and wml
20141122 19:37:05< iceiceice> that's fixed by the strict mode
20141122 19:37:08< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i only use wml variables to store serialized lua tables in them :p 
20141122 19:37:26< iceiceice> yes, that is surely the best thing
20141122 19:38:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i just looked at my 2 addons and i don't know of i ever use global variable in aproblemantic way.
20141122 19:38:59< gfgtdf> iceiceice: so i see no reason against putting it in teh code
20141122 19:39:11< gfgtdf> iceiceice: if it casues prblems we can delete it easily i think
20141122 19:39:19< iceiceice> yeah i would like to try it
20141122 19:39:30< iceiceice> we'll see what happens i guess
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20141122 19:46:36< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i actuly tried to compliel readline, but i couldnt even extract teh archieve
20141122 19:46:53< gfgtdf> iceiceice: it tells me two files with identical names: "ChangeLog" and "CHANGELOG"
20141122 19:47:12< gfgtdf> iceiceice: so i doubt it'll complie with msvc if i cannot even extract it
20141122 19:47:17< iceiceice> that's wierd...
20141122 19:47:33< iceiceice> i just installed "readline-dev" package or something
20141122 19:47:59< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i think it is commonly used in python via some wrapper module,
20141122 19:48:13< iceiceice> so i guess it should be available on any system with python?
20141122 19:49:05< iceiceice> it might not work out that way i guess
20141122 19:49:14< iceiceice> but i thought most stuff in python is cross platform
20141122 19:51:19< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hmm idk,  didnt say i profed that it doesnt complie with msvc, and even if if doesnt complie with msvc itÄ's most likeley still possible to get a windows dll version by cross compliting.
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20141122 20:22:38< irker278> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master a65d168317d3 / RELEASE_NOTES data/lua/ilua.lua src/scripting/lua_kernel_base.cpp: enable "strict mode" in wesnoth lua http://git.io/1rUv8w
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20141122 20:59:56< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4875 (master - a65d168 : Chris Beck): The build was broken.
20141122 20:59:56< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/41827910
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20141122 21:12:32< AI0867> iceiceice: that commit broke the lua pathfinding tests
20141122 21:15:03< irker278> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper website:master 62014276de54 / start/1.12/ (10 files in 2 dirs): updated Hungarian and Russian announcement translation http://git.io/TqBU9w
20141122 21:15:11< Ivanovic> shadowm: the number of announcement translations is growing!
20141122 21:15:20< Ivanovic> now there are 6 languages
20141122 21:15:33< Ivanovic> plus the original in english
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20141122 21:23:56< iceiceice> AI0867: yeah, i saw it...
20141122 21:24:03< iceiceice> i'm trying to figure out what the issue is actually
20141122 21:25:24< iceiceice> it seems to say that "v" here can refer to a global variable
20141122 21:25:25< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/data/lua/location_set.lua#L159
20141122 21:26:12< iceiceice> oh i saww
20141122 21:26:14< iceiceice> *i see
20141122 21:26:17< iceiceice> it's actually a bug in our lua
20141122 21:26:19< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/data/lua/location_set.lua#L103
20141122 21:26:31< iceiceice> that v there is not a local variable, probably it shouldn't be there or should be something else...
20141122 21:28:29< iceiceice> too bad none of this code is commented....
20141122 21:29:40< iceiceice> i guess the backwards compatible thing is to delete it, since it was nil in all previous iterations
20141122 21:30:05< iceiceice> except in cases where v was assigned globally somewhere
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20141122 21:43:56< irker278> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master d31253f585bd / data/lua/location_set.lua: bugfix: invalid variable reference http://git.io/ZdfF2Q
20141122 21:44:08< iceiceice> AI0867: ^
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20141122 21:47:37< gfgtdf> iceiceice: when i look at the method 'methods:iter' above, to seems to me that f(x, y, self.values[p]) might more be the intention.
20141122 21:48:42< gfgtdf> s/to/it
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20141122 22:25:02< iceiceice> gfgtdf: feel free to commit a change
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20141122 22:26:47< irker278> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 87685816e841 / RELEASE_NOTES: Update RELEASE_NOTES http://git.io/a8XkVw
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20141122 22:32:41< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4876 (master - d31253f : Chris Beck): The build was fixed.
20141122 22:32:41< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/41833603
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20141122 22:46:11< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i tried to cross compile readline, but it isn't working, i probably don't know how to do it correctly
20141122 22:47:27< iceiceice> you might be able to use this: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/readline.htm
20141122 22:50:26< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm i looked at the code and to me it seems that the part of readline we use wouldn't be that hard to implementat on our own. Deoesnt we basicly haev a a vector list of "HIST_ENTRY" and then teh only operatoion we want are "find a entry  that begins with str previous/next to position i" ?
20141122 22:50:29< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok ty
20141122 22:50:37< gfgtdf> iceiceice: at the wesnoth cod ei mean
20141122 22:51:00< iceiceice> gfgtdf: yeah it surely would not be very difficult to make a "no readline" version
20141122 22:51:07< iceiceice> but it was much less work for me to use readline
20141122 22:51:12< iceiceice> and less testing that i have to do
20141122 22:51:36< iceiceice> also i wanted to test the theory that it would be easier to use library for this
20141122 22:52:10< iceiceice> you could probably make a nearly feature complete version without readline very easily using std::vector<std::string>
20141122 22:52:23< iceiceice> idk if you care about "history expansions" though,
20141122 22:52:35< iceiceice> i added that just because i figured if i was going to use readline i might as well throw that in
20141122 22:53:00< gfgtdf> iceiceice: what is "history expansions" ?
20141122 22:53:07< iceiceice> it means something like,
20141122 22:53:14< iceiceice> if i type !! it is automatically expanded to last command,
20141122 22:53:20< iceiceice> if i type !1 it is the first command in history,
20141122 22:53:32< iceiceice> if i type !-5 it is the command i made 5 commands ago
20141122 22:53:38< iceiceice> etc. etc. they have a big list of these
20141122 22:54:30< iceiceice> http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/php/chet/readline/history.html
20141122 22:57:17< gfgtdf> ok
20141122 23:03:44< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i will try one more time based on these instructions: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4737082/statically-linked-correctly-working-readline-library-under-windows
20141122 23:04:50< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm i 'd be happier baout a dynamicly linked version (dll) i think.
20141122 23:05:04< iceiceice> yeah i will try to make it dynamic
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20141122 23:07:24< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/41835802
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20141122 23:10:53< gfgtdf> iceiceice: msvc dislikes this line: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/scripting/lua_kernel_base.cpp#L96
20141122 23:12:00< gfgtdf> iceiceice: lua_pop is a marco so that becomes lua_settop(L, -(nargs - 1)-1), and msvc dislikes negating a 'size_t' value (nargs).
20141122 23:12:08< iceiceice> gfgtdf: it might be a bug
20141122 23:12:13< iceiceice> maybe it should be pop nargs
20141122 23:12:55< gfgtdf> iceiceice: its not about teh -1
20141122 23:13:07< gfgtdf> iceiceice: is that we negate nargs
20141122 23:13:20< iceiceice> maybe it should just be "settop(L,0)"
20141122 23:13:35< iceiceice> i think it doesn't even matter if i am returning 0,
20141122 23:13:41< iceiceice> if lua is calling it,
20141122 23:13:54< iceiceice> but if C++ calls it then its bad to leave things on the stack, that's the only reason i put that there
20141122 23:15:17< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i tink you shoudl just change nargs to type int
20141122 23:17:12< iceiceice> i think i should just get rid of the line entirely, it is only there because i hadn't figured out the system yet when i wrote it
20141122 23:17:38< iceiceice> gfgtdf: there is a system i implemented from here to about line 145: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/scripting/lua_kernel_base.cpp#L101
20141122 23:18:04< iceiceice> normally lua only talks to C, not C++,
20141122 23:18:18< iceiceice> so it is not possible to bind to a method function, only a standard C function
20141122 23:18:31< iceiceice> and it is not possible to bind to a boost::function either, it must be a simple pointer
20141122 23:18:47< iceiceice> i found a solution looking at someone else's code,
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20141122 23:19:00< iceiceice> the idea is to store a boost::function is userdata and push this to lua so that lua owns it,
20141122 23:19:10< iceiceice> and give it a _call operator which can retrieve the function and execute it
20141122 23:19:46< iceiceice> so using this you can use boost bind and push anything to lua, and you can make polymorphic functions that change depending on which lua kernel is running them
20141122 23:20:04< iceiceice> (actually not sure about that last part but i think it's true)
20141122 23:20:36< iceiceice> i hadn't figured that out completely when i made the intf_print method,
20141122 23:20:55< iceiceice> but now that it is actually a callback always i think its okay to leave stuff on the stack, like all of our other callback functions
20141122 23:22:54< iceiceice> actually it might be even more sensible if lines 109 and 110 are changed as well,
20141122 23:23:11< iceiceice> so that the callbacks don't see the boost function object on the stack and the mechanism is transparent to them
20141122 23:23:20< iceiceice> *interchanged as well
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20141122 23:24:54< iceiceice> probably also i should move those lines to a new file so that the idea can be used in other places
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20141122 23:51:19< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i think it worked maybe: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B54Q-3UjP5fidmpsVWlaRDdrdDQ/view?usp=sharing
20141122 23:51:42< iceiceice> you should only need the "history" part actually, not the full readline
20141122 23:51:44< iceiceice> or even termcap
20141122 23:51:47< iceiceice> afaik
20141122 23:52:51< iceiceice> but i'm not sure if its possible to tell that to scons
20141122 23:55:47< shadowm> 1. Wiki updated (both Download and the Xdelta page).
20141122 23:56:49< shadowm> 2. The 1.12 wesnothd instances on baldras and basilic are up (and a provisional 1.11/1.12 instance on gonzo)
20141122 23:58:04< shadowm> 3. Screenshots are up.
20141122 23:58:17< irker278> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master ec1d0a7a8318 / src/playturn.cpp: "change_controller" refactor http://git.io/fKh-pA
20141122 23:58:19< irker278> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 3bc30330c2d6 / src/playsingle_controller.cpp: comment to assert. http://git.io/zmVlZA
20141122 23:58:21< irker278> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master f99e367292c1 / src/playturn.cpp: "change_controller" refactor http://git.io/vEVOxA
20141122 23:59:01< shadowm> I should've made more tea.
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