--- Log opened Mon Nov 24 00:00:21 2014 20141124 00:17:52-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20141124 00:30:16-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20141124 00:32:11< celticminstrel> Well, so far it doesn't seem like DruidSiege used much deprecated stuff, so yay. 20141124 00:32:48-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 00:36:41-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: Bye for now] 20141124 00:36:53-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-14-121.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20141124 00:37:25-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit] 20141124 00:39:19-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 00:40:01-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit] 20141124 00:53:19-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 00:53:19-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Changing host] 20141124 00:53:19-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 00:57:44-!- prkc [~prkc@catv-89-134-173-244.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20141124 01:02:24-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-14-121.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 01:10:51-!- prkc [~prkc@catv-89-134-173-244.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 01:15:56< celticminstrel> ...what happened to the circles underneath the units? Is that a setting somewhere? 20141124 01:16:48< shadowm> Yes, and it's on by default. Did you press Ctrl+e by accident perhaps? 20141124 01:17:12< celticminstrel> Pressing it doesn't seem to do anything. 20141124 01:17:46< shadowm> Preferences -> Display -> Show team colors 20141124 01:18:25-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20141124 01:18:26< celticminstrel> Huh. Maybe my scenario breaks it somehow. 20141124 01:18:35< celticminstrel> I do have one unit with a circle. 20141124 01:18:40-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 01:19:13< shadowm> Are you manipulating unit ellipses somehow? 20141124 01:19:32< shadowm> Do you have custom L0 units or custom units including an ellipse= aline? 20141124 01:19:52< celticminstrel> The one that actually has an ellipse is the one with a modification to change its ellipse. 20141124 01:20:05-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 01:21:35< celticminstrel> I think all my ellipse manipulation was using [object], unless L0 units don't get the broken ellipse automatically. 20141124 01:22:02< celticminstrel> Ah, the initiate does have an ellipse= line. 20141124 01:22:24< shadowm> You might want to note that the 1.11.x changes to [unit_type] ellipse described in usually break ellipses in 1.10 content. 20141124 01:23:21< celticminstrel> Ahh, so it's probably trying to use misc/ellipse-nozoc-nozoc? 20141124 01:24:34< shadowm> Probably. If you can see Wesnoth's console output (as run from a terminal on Linux and IIRC OS X too, or stderr.txt in the exe's directory on Windows) you might see "cannot load image" errors related to that. 20141124 01:25:24< celticminstrel> ...where are the ellipses again? I don't see them data/core/images/misc. 20141124 01:25:42< shadowm> images/misc (which exists separately from that). 20141124 01:25:48< celticminstrel> Ah right. 20141124 01:29:48-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@rrcs-97-79-164-178.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 01:30:42< celticminstrel> ...if it's misc/ellipse I don't even need to include the line, right? 20141124 01:31:37< celticminstrel> And I guess I don't need to manually fix the no-zone-of-control ellipse when adding a zone of control either. 20141124 01:31:57< celticminstrel> (Using [effect]apply_to=zoc) 20141124 01:31:57< shadowm> Yes and yes. 20141124 01:32:38< shadowm> (Meaning, no, you don't need to manually specify misc/ellipse, or misc/ellipse-nozoc for that matter, and you don't need to fix it after zoc or level changes.) 20141124 01:33:04< celticminstrel> I was using the hero ellipse for my leaders. I guess I'll switch to the leader ellipse. 20141124 01:38:16< shadowm> You really don't have an option there since the leader ellipse is used automatically. 20141124 01:38:28< celticminstrel> Yeah, that's kinda why. 20141124 01:39:47< celticminstrel> I don't think the hero ellipse was used by IS_HERO and MAKE_HERO in 1.10, but it is now, so yay. 20141124 01:42:15-!- happygrue [~Laptop@2601:6:4380:909:b9c2:7c15:ee72:ce9d] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 01:42:15-!- happygrue [~Laptop@2601:6:4380:909:b9c2:7c15:ee72:ce9d] has quit [Changing host] 20141124 01:42:15-!- happygrue [~Laptop@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 01:53:15-!- Falcon` [falcon@hell.kolosowscy.pl] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 20141124 02:09:45-!- atomicbomb [~atomicbom@202.67.35.23] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 02:15:39-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20141124 02:27:50-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20141124 02:29:17-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20141124 02:30:29-!- prkc [~prkc@catv-89-134-173-244.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20141124 02:35:17-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 02:38:59-!- Falcon` [falcon@hell.kolosowscy.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 02:41:22< celticminstrel> Well, first scenario seems to work with no issues. \o/ 20141124 02:41:40< celticminstrel> ...once I fixed the ellipses, that is. 20141124 02:46:29-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20141124 02:56:33-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 02:59:41-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit] 20141124 03:00:49< celticminstrel> ...oh hey, did the mudcrawlers get new graphics? 20141124 03:05:58-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@rrcs-97-79-164-178.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20141124 03:07:34-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 03:08:24-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20141124 03:08:34-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@rrcs-97-79-164-178.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 03:10:02-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit] 20141124 03:10:11-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 03:15:30< celticminstrel> Do I need the :num to go after the ~CS()? 20141124 03:15:36< celticminstrel> (For unit animations) 20141124 03:16:15< shadowm> ":num"? 20141124 03:16:30< celticminstrel> The frame filename ends with .png:100 20141124 03:16:57< shadowm> Image path functions are technically part of the filename, so yes. 20141124 03:17:02< celticminstrel> 'kay 20141124 03:19:27< celticminstrel> ...I have a feeling that I shouldn't have two {SOUND:} macros in a row. 20141124 03:21:01-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 03:23:37-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 03:27:40-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-14-121.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: End Transmission.] 20141124 03:39:18-!- Jetrel [~Jetrel@c-73-164-34-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: "The highest possible stage in moral culture is when we recognize that we ought to control our thoughts." - Charles Darwin] 20141124 03:48:09-!- happygrue [~Laptop@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20141124 03:49:33-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@55d441e8.access.ecotel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 03:49:58-!- Jetrel [~Jetrel@c-73-164-34-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 03:51:16-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@frnk-5f74e035.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 03:51:16-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@frnk-5f74e035.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20141124 03:51:16-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 03:52:26-!- ArneBab [~quassel@55d4027d.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20141124 03:55:26-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20141124 03:57:16-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20141124 04:05:27-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20141124 04:05:33-!- mattsc_ [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 04:10:19-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@55d441e8.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20141124 04:12:02-!- ArneBab [~quassel@55d441e8.access.ecotel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 04:23:49-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has quit [Quit: #AncientBeast - Master Your Beasts ( www.AncientBeast.com )] 20141124 04:40:48-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@rrcs-97-79-164-178.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20141124 04:55:14< celticminstrel> Hmm, it seems like modifying the unit's advancement possibilities didn't work... 20141124 05:02:48-!- alezost [~user@128-74-163-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 05:02:59-!- rhorama [~rho@2601:d:a900:3ec:d091:67b7:e196:9e9c] has quit [Quit: Bye] 20141124 05:09:23-!- Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@p549FB51C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20141124 05:11:43-!- Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@p549FAF7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 05:14:51< celticminstrel> Well, it seems to work in the general case, maybe there's something else wrong then. 20141124 05:33:50-!- mattsc_ [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has left #wesnoth [] 20141124 05:38:24-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-14-121.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 05:56:09-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 05:58:54-!- zookeeper [zookeeper@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 06:08:28-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-14-121.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20141124 06:20:22-!- ancestral [~ancestral@71-34-14-121.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 06:21:29-!- Ravana_ is now known as SZ_Bot 20141124 06:22:27-!- SZ_Bot is now known as Ravana_ 20141124 06:32:24-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! 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This update seems to be really making news and we're excited to share it with fans new and old! [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/536919930286125057 ] 20141124 16:31:18< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) (RT @rockpapershot) Free, turn-based strategy Battle for Wesnoth has had an update to improve its interface and add a new faction: http://t.… [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/536919999701860352 ] 20141124 16:31:28< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) (RT @Totalbiscuit) The awesome free turn-based fantasy strategy game Battle for Wesnoth just got a big new update - http://bit.ly/1y57sdB [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/536920040868966400 ] 20141124 16:33:01< Gambit> TotalBiscuit is a complete asshole, but at least he has good taste in FOSS TBS games. 20141124 16:33:35-!- Giratina548 [~Giratina5@107-209-131-23.lightspeed.mssnks.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 16:34:15< Gambit> The release announcement this year is absolutely beautiful: http://www.wesnoth.org/start/1.12/ 20141124 16:55:51-!- NCahmaenTgGeirfs [~kidsnamed@187-92-237-24.gci.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 16:59:46-!- NCahmaenTgGeirfs [~kidsnamed@187-92-237-24.gci.net] has left #wesnoth ["Lunch is Gone"] 20141124 17:07:51-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 17:15:27-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 17:23:05-!- Earlo [~Earlo@213.143.167.6] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 17:23:33-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mail.thomsonplastics.com] has quit [Quit: Off to save the world!] 20141124 17:33:11-!- thunderstruck [~thunderst@cpc8-sgyl29-2-0-cust37.sgyl.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 18:01:35-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20141124 18:07:32-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 18:30:03-!- Panda_ [~IMO@AMontsouris-653-1-272-49.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 18:32:43-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20141124 18:40:24< celticminstrel> ...okay... so... the [scatter_units] WML didn't work. 20141124 18:40:59-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 18:41:17< celticminstrel> Maybe updating WLP will be sufficient to fix this... 20141124 18:55:48< celticminstrel> ...literally the only difference is that the function is assigned into wml_actions instead of wesnoth.wml_actions. 20141124 18:58:03< celticminstrel> Which is just an alias to the latter anyway. 20141124 19:02:58< celticminstrel> ...and it worked earlier in the scenario. 20141124 19:38:00-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 19:53:13-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 19:54:39-!- lightbulbjim [~jim@104.94.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 20:07:50-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20141124 20:08:48< celticminstrel> And my advances_to mod seems to break once you go to the next scenarion? Maybe? 20141124 20:10:01-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 20:10:18< celticminstrel> ^-n 20141124 20:17:37< celticminstrel> I wonder if I can modify advances_to with an [object]... 20141124 20:31:56< celticminstrel> Doesn't look like it. 20141124 20:32:25< celticminstrel> Buuut I could modify on scenario start. 20141124 20:42:32-!- timotimo [~timo@gallifrey.wybt.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 20141124 20:47:28< celticminstrel> Modifying it on recall works. Yay. 20141124 20:57:08< celticminstrel> ...wasn't there a key shortcut that toggles accelerated speed while held? 20141124 21:00:02-!- c74d changed the topic of #wesnoth to: Wesnoth User Channel | | Latest stable version: 1.12.0 | Check the upness of Wesnoth servers on | Public IRC logs: | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: 20141124 21:08:48 * celticminstrel wonders what changed. 20141124 21:08:57-!- lightbulbjim [~jim@104.94.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20141124 21:11:13-!- shadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth to: Wesnoth User Channel | http://www.wesnoth.org | Latest stable version: 1.12.0 | Check the upness of Wesnoth servers on http://status.wesnoth.org | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: https://dpaste.de 20141124 21:11:34< shadowm> c74d: No unrequested topic changes, please. Webchat has problems with angular brackets. 20141124 21:15:05 * c74d has a UAV drop a copy of IETF RFC 3986 on Webchat. 20141124 21:15:51< celticminstrel> Maybe webchat forgot to sanitize its input and thinks angle brackets indicate HTML tags. 20141124 21:16:27< shadowm> No, it doesn't. 20141124 21:17:04< shadowm> It just includes the closing angular bracket in the link URL, which usually causes people to hit a 404 on the destination. 20141124 21:17:25< celticminstrel> Oh wow. 20141124 21:17:33< shadowm> Plus c74d's formatting is a waste of precious space. 20141124 21:17:43< celticminstrel> Despite angle brackets being the standard URL enclosers. 20141124 21:18:02< celticminstrel> Though it's true they're not needed here. 20141124 21:18:46 * celticminstrel thinks they're best for embedding a URL in ongoing text where there might be punctuation that would otherwise touch the URL. 20141124 21:25:17-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20141124 21:26:50-!- DCW1 [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 21:38:33-!- DCW1 [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20141124 21:44:05-!- DCW1 [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 21:50:15-!- DCW1 [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20141124 21:52:34-!- thunderstruck [~thunderst@cpc8-sgyl29-2-0-cust37.sgyl.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20141124 22:04:55-!- Earlo [~Earlo@213.143.167.6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20141124 22:26:38-!- Jozrael [~Jozrael@209.133.52.233] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 22:33:56-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20141124 22:44:10< celticminstrel> Hm. My [time_area] seems to be broken, at least aesthetically. 20141124 22:48:01< celticminstrel> Aha, the time-of-day graphics moved. 20141124 22:50:10-!- Jozrael [~Jozrael@209.133.52.233] has quit [] 20141124 23:05:23-!- zookeeper [zookeeper@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20141124 23:11:01-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@cpe-74-132-242-221.swo.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 23:23:44< celticminstrel> Aaaand [scatter_units] mysteriously broke again despite working earlier in the scenario. 20141124 23:39:20-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Quit: Haldrik] 20141124 23:42:05< celticminstrel> Oh. Preload event is supposed to have first_time_only=no. 20141124 23:42:26 * celticminstrel thinks the engine should make that the default when it finds a preload event. 20141124 23:44:56-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20141124 23:46:00-!- timo [~timo@gallifrey.wybt.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141124 23:46:24-!- timo is now known as Guest54457 20141124 23:48:57-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Tue Nov 25 00:00:24 2014