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20141208 02:34:13< nurupo> iceiceice: have you seen http://qt-project.org/wiki/New-Features-in-Qt-5.4 ?
20141208 02:34:18< nurupo> >Qt GUI: QOpenGLContext is now able to adopt existing native contexts (EGL, GLX, …). This allows interop between Qt and other frameworks, like game engines.
20141208 02:34:22< nurupo> thought you are not so interested in the widget based gui, i guess
20141208 02:34:31< nurupo> you are probably more interested in
20141208 02:34:31< nurupo> >Qt Quick: QQuickRenderControl is made public. This API allows efficient rendering of Qt Quick 2 scenes into framebuffer objects. The contents can then be used in arbitrary ways in Qt-based or 3rd party OpenGL renderers.
20141208 02:35:18< nurupo> *though you are not
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20141208 02:43:28< iceiceice> nurupo: i haven't really been researching it, but just glancing at it that sounds like a very good thing
20141208 02:44:05< iceiceice> since the SDL2 / SDL_GPU project is still on-going
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20141208 03:47:25< irker166> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 6102ff4819ea / src/log.hpp: add comments about using iomanip with logger http://git.io/Oc03Fg
20141208 03:48:35< iceiceice> shadowm: ^
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20141208 04:37:17< fabi> iceiceice: still around?
20141208 04:37:53< iceiceice> y
20141208 04:38:08< iceiceice> i'm editing your "1.13 features" thread atm...
20141208 04:41:00< fabi> iceiceice: cool
20141208 05:00:29< fabi> iceiceice: I have had a look at the scons code you linked me before. But it is a huge framework for compiling the whol application and not quite plugable into our existing scons framework.
20141208 05:01:26< iceiceice> shoot i didn't realize it was so big
20141208 05:01:42< iceiceice> it looked like it would provide checks for various qt modules
20141208 05:02:06< iceiceice> maybe we should just forget about travis for now
20141208 05:02:18< iceiceice> or just make a giant list of qt packages for travis
20141208 05:02:32< iceiceice> and focus on doing proof of concept instead of fussing with scons
20141208 05:03:18< iceiceice> your system was compiling and launching windows for me just fine
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20141208 05:05:29< fabi> iceiceice: Yes. The fix to the scons build I did is certainly not perfect.
20141208 05:05:59< fabi> But it manages to provide enough extra flags to run the compile.
20141208 05:06:17< fabi> The test binary build is broken.
20141208 05:07:29< fabi> iceiceice: At the moment I am trying to add a few themed widgets to prove that the resulting dialogs can look similar nice like our current ones.
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20141208 07:01:02< shadowm> fabi: 'Qt' is a core Qt namespace, so declaring a 'qt' namespace of your own is unadvisable.
20141208 07:01:31< fabi> shadowm: Oh, right.
20141208 07:02:43< fabi> I guess it should work right now becaue of the case sensitiveness.
20141208 07:04:08< shadowm> Unadvisable from a "source code written for humans" standpoint.
20141208 07:04:50< fabi> Yes, I agree. Still thinking about a better name for the namespace.
20141208 07:05:32< iceiceice> maybe just under gui or something?
20141208 07:05:36< iceiceice> gui::qt:: ?
20141208 07:05:48< iceiceice> or gui_qt:: ?
20141208 07:06:48< shadowm> qtw, wqt, qtgui, qgui, guiq, guix, gui3, etc.
20141208 07:07:40< shadowm> I'm sure someone with more imagination than me would come up with more alternatives taking into account the fact that 'Qt' was meant to be read aloud as 'cute'.
20141208 07:07:42< fabi> gui3 rofl
20141208 07:08:01< fabi> cute::
20141208 07:08:12< vultraz> please make GUI3 a thing :P
20141208 07:09:19< fabi> vultraz: ?
20141208 07:09:32< iceiceice> i'm generally a fan of making the namespace match the folder where you find it
20141208 07:09:45< fabi> the folder can be renamed
20141208 07:09:49< iceiceice> ok
20141208 07:10:34< fabi> iceiceice: One of the QImage constructers takes something a sdl surfuce can spit out.
20141208 07:11:38< iceiceice> is it like "QImage(surf.lock_pixels())" or something? i guess that would be truly ideal but probably its slightly more complicated...
20141208 07:11:49< fabi> yes
20141208 07:11:56< fabi> It is that simple.
20141208 07:12:01< shadowm> What about the pixel format?
20141208 07:12:13< fabi> I have found a solution that respects the pixel format.
20141208 07:12:30< fabi> It is somewhere in a text file where I store code snippets.
20141208 07:12:31< shadowm> Because IIRC we don't even use the same format on all platforms.
20141208 07:12:47< iceiceice> really?
20141208 07:12:50< shadowm> And then there's the weird exceptions that do not use the "neutral" format or whatever.
20141208 07:12:57< iceiceice> shadowm: how can that be
20141208 07:13:06< iceiceice> it seems that most of image.cpp assumes rgba basically
20141208 07:13:47< shadowm> I suppose we guarantee file-based surfaces to use that format for simplicty.
20141208 07:15:16< iceiceice> ok
20141208 07:15:46< shadowm> And yet, I remember running into issues with ~BG() precisely due to surface format/flag issues.
20141208 07:16:06< iceiceice> i really don't know enough to say generally, but i'm certain that any of the existing scaling functions would fail if its not 8bpp and A is the low order bits
20141208 07:16:47< shadowm> I.
20141208 07:16:50< shadowm> Is that bits or bytes per pixel?
20141208 07:16:55< iceiceice> bits
20141208 07:17:08< iceiceice> actually i'm looking at the source now,
20141208 07:17:09< shadowm> That's.
20141208 07:17:25< shadowm> 8 bpp is what we normally call indexed 256 color mode.
20141208 07:17:38< shadowm> 256 colors from a GPU or user-defined palette.
20141208 07:18:16< iceiceice> yeah i used the wrong term, sorry
20141208 07:18:17< iceiceice> i did not mean 8 bits per pixel...
20141208 07:18:17< shadowm> 8 bits per channel mabybe?
20141208 07:18:17< iceiceice> yes
20141208 07:18:23< iceiceice> "scale_surface_sharp" uses something called "SDL_GetRGBA"
20141208 07:18:34< iceiceice> so maybe that adapts to some kind of image formatting flags
20141208 07:19:05< iceiceice> but the main "scale_surface" used in 1.12 doesn't use that
20141208 07:19:05< iceiceice> it just assumes RGBA
20141208 07:19:43< iceiceice> that's the only function that uses the SDL thing afaict
20141208 07:20:04< iceiceice> all the image path functions seem to just assume 8 bits per channel RGBA
20141208 07:21:10< shadowm> IPF are somewhat privileged in that they are implemented on top of the image cache mechanism, which presumably deals with surface format normalization and stuff.
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20141208 07:21:56< shadowm> And yet they can still get their own implementation details wrong, which led to me "fixing" (and IIRC someone else re-fixing later) a bug with ~BG().
20141208 07:22:30< shadowm> So I'd be more concerned about synthetic surfaces, and the framebuffer surface.
20141208 07:23:03< iceiceice> i see
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20141208 07:25:00< shadowm> The infuriating part about the bug in question is that it only reproduced under very specific circumstances for some reason.
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20141208 19:06:30< vultraz> zookeeper: would you be for adding braziers as embellishments in 1.13?
20141208 19:07:52< zookeeper> vultraz, why?
20141208 19:08:38< vultraz> since they seem common items that several campaigns already have as custom terrains
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20141208 19:31:49< zookeeper> vultraz, i don't see any mainline custom terrains for them?
20141208 19:33:40< vultraz> UMC
20141208 19:38:34< zookeeper> right
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20141208 19:44:41< zookeeper> i don't think terribly highly of embellishments, so i guess i wouldn't be for adding new ones
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20141208 20:47:17< loonycyborg> fabi: I see you're doing some qt branch. Is qt already themable enough to replace something like CEGUI?
20141208 20:48:06< fabi> loonycyborg: Oh, I have never heard about "CEGUI". Please tell me something about it.
20141208 20:48:18< loonycyborg> A GUI library for games
20141208 20:48:40< loonycyborg> that can integrate into rendering loop and what-not
20141208 20:49:16< fabi> loonycyborg: The 5.x versions of Qt come with a declarative language, funilly called "Qt Markup Language". You can do a lot with it including themeing.
20141208 20:49:58< loonycyborg> Can you emulate current wesnoth ui with it?
20141208 20:51:03< fabi> Let's say I can produce something with the help of our images that looks similar :-)
20141208 20:51:16< vultraz> got any screenshots?
20141208 20:51:35< fabi> I have a working "Hello World" example.
20141208 20:52:33< fabi> Currently I try to theme the "checkbox" widget to use LordBob's images.
20141208 20:53:23< fabi> vultraz: I will ping you as soon as I have a screenshot that is really worth looking at.
20141208 20:53:35< vultraz> ok :)
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