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20141210 01:29:39< gfgtdf> iceiceice: do you think we can delete this with the new randok  generator https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/game_events/action_wml.cpp#L2010 ?
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20141210 02:19:12< iceiceice> gfgtdf: yeah i guess we can get rid of that
20141210 02:24:19< gfgtdf> iceiceice: the mt rng return full 32 bit of random ?
20141210 02:24:47< iceiceice> i believe so, it can be easily tested
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20141210 02:34:46< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i tested, it's making 32 bits
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20141210 08:24:05< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: as for http://gna.org/bugs/index.php?23037, it might make sense to do that. Actually, force_lock_settings already defaults to yes for all scenarios but the first one in MP campaigns
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20141210 16:44:30< irker290> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 7788fbaa01ae / src/game_events/action_wml.cpp: remove old rng code http://git.io/nT3T9A
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20141210 17:08:18< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: i made a pull request about http://gna.org/bugs/?23037 here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/343 you hve an opinion about it?
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20141210 17:11:44< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/43618586
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20141210 17:15:44< gfgtdf> does anyonw knoe whtas wrong with that code? msvc has no problems compiling it.
20141210 17:15:55< gfgtdf> that travis build above i mean
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20141210 18:11:08< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i think maybe it should be "static_cast<unsigned long>" ?
20141210 18:11:57< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm y that could work
20141210 18:12:35< gfgtdf> iceiceice: maybe i also could  replace "unsigned long" with boost::mpl::identity<unsigned long>::type :p
20141210 18:12:49< gfgtdf> iceiceice:  but i wonder why the current code doesnt work
20141210 18:15:07< iceiceice> when i compile with gcc 4.9 i get a slightly different error message: http://hastebin.com/ebiwoqanem.cpp
20141210 18:15:28< iceiceice> i think its something wierd about C++ grammar maybe
20141210 18:15:46< irker290> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 085507d18a4c / src/game_events/action_wml.cpp: fix compile error http://git.io/I0oX8g
20141210 18:16:17< iceiceice> gfgtdf: even this fixes it for me:
20141210 18:16:35< iceiceice> `if((unsigned long)(num_choices) > std::numeric_limits<uint32_t>::max()) {`
20141210 18:17:28< gfgtdf> iceiceice: y it seems liek it just cannot handle the space in the typename "unsigned long" in this case.
20141210 18:17:59< iceiceice> maybe it thinks it should be a function declaration "long" returning unsigned
20141210 18:18:05< iceiceice> or something
20141210 18:18:16< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you have an opinion on https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/343 ?
20141210 18:20:56< iceiceice> i didn't look at it yet
20141210 18:26:33< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i wonder whether we shoudl replace long with utin64_t in this case
20141210 18:27:08< gfgtdf> iceiceice:the "rand" code i mean
20141210 18:27:57< gfgtdf> iceiceice: that eror message is in that cod eis quite useless if long is only 32 bits.
20141210 18:32:09< iceiceice> gfgtdf: yeah i think maybe num_choices should be a uint_32t
20141210 18:32:14< iceiceice> and just get rid of the error message
20141210 18:32:55< iceiceice> i guess it could be 64 bit but it sort of adds needless complexity imo
20141210 18:33:31< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hmm but with int32 the chanched of overflow are more likeley.
20141210 18:33:37< gfgtdf> canches*
20141210 18:34:06< iceiceice> ok, if you want to make it 64 bit then i agree
20141210 18:36:11< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i think the question is whether its realistic to assume that no addon wants to get full 32 bits of random.
20141210 18:37:00< gfgtdf> iceiceice: and wants to use somethign rand=  "0..2^32-1"
20141210 18:37:32< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i think most likely it's reasonable, and if in some case its not, the person whose making it probably knows enough to use lua for it
20141210 18:37:58< iceiceice> but otoh i didnt read carefully enough to see if this would restrict the ranges we allowed before,
20141210 18:38:16< gfgtdf> iceiceice: afaik lua cannot acces the synced rng directly, helper.rand also ust calles [set_variable] rand=
20141210 18:39:05< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i added these bindings though so that lua can instantiate a private mt_rng,
20141210 18:39:22< iceiceice> i don't remember if its mapgen-only or also in the game
20141210 18:39:26< gfgtdf> iceiceice: but that isnt synced eigher i thought?
20141210 18:39:36< iceiceice> ohh i see
20141210 18:39:47< iceiceice> i mean i guess you could make a seed for it using synchronize choice
20141210 18:39:54< iceiceice> and then it would be synced
20141210 18:40:36< gfgtdf> iceiceice: but then the clients would make that coice
20141210 18:41:07< gfgtdf> iceiceice: (the synced rng seed comes from teh 'neutral' server to prevent cheating )
20141210 18:41:59< iceiceice> hmm i forgot this
20141210 18:42:14< iceiceice> so wait does [set_variable] ... rand= [/set..] also come from the serve?
20141210 18:42:16< iceiceice> server
20141210 18:42:31< iceiceice> it doesn't, right?
20141210 18:43:12< iceiceice> wait so what's the problem with lua not getting the synced rng
20141210 18:43:37< iceiceice> i think i became confused,
20141210 18:44:06< iceiceice> all i'm saying is, if [set_variable] rand = is somehow inadequate for someone because of how we use rng,
20141210 18:44:24< gfgtdf> iceiceice: rand= ses teh nromal synced rng, which gets reseeded by teh server when its used the first time in a synced context
20141210 18:44:35< iceiceice> they could make their own mt rng, and seed it with something from [set_variable] rand=, and do whatever they want
20141210 18:44:37< gfgtdf> uses the*
20141210 18:45:23< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm y that seems possible, 
20141210 18:45:56< iceiceice> or take multiple samples i guess
20141210 18:46:35< iceiceice> so i would want to just do what you think is simple
20141210 18:47:05< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok i think i'll just leave it as it currently is since there a are mutiple workarounds in the rare case that one really wants full32 bits.
20141210 18:47:06< iceiceice> the only other thing that comes to mind is, idk if anonymissimus has the type "uint64_t", he might change it like in this commit: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3f3687388f7ee528931de15a25a0b5acb4697561
20141210 18:48:39< gfgtdf> iceiceice: our uint32_t somes from t typedef boost::uint32_t uint32_t some from of teh rng headers
20141210 18:48:46< gfgtdf> in action_wml.cpp i mean
20141210 18:48:54< iceiceice> ah ok
20141210 18:49:14< gfgtdf> iceiceice: it was also there before my comit
20141210 18:49:21< iceiceice> y i did that i think
20141210 18:50:12< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you can help here with compilation problems http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=578899#p578899 ?
20141210 18:52:42< iceiceice> tbh that sounds like an issue with his system but we'll see
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20141210 19:09:09< irker290> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 20e9706c11f5 / src/filesystem_boost.cpp: refactor commit 3f3687388f7ee528931de15a25a0b5acb4697561 http://git.io/cdIxbQ
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20141210 19:29:29< irker290> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 6dfb9d156de0 / src/filesystem_boost.cpp: fixup HEAD^ http://git.io/kb7j9Q
20141210 19:30:48< iceiceice> gfgtdf: can you test this?
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20141210 19:33:49< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok
20141210 19:34:21< iceiceice> gfgtdf: about 343,
20141210 19:34:49< iceiceice> i don't see any problem with it but i wonder if we shouldn't do the same for multiplayer also
20141210 19:36:39< iceiceice> idk i don't see any problem with the branch as it is
20141210 19:36:41< gfgtdf> iceiceice: normal [mutiplayer]  maps are designed to work indpependnetly of those settings, since they are usually just balanced maps
20141210 19:37:11< iceiceice> yeah but for campaigns
20141210 19:37:17< gfgtdf> iceiceice: campaigns not, for example a campaigns often contains a story that coudl for exmaple use s sighed events, which woudl not wirk if played without fog for example
20141210 19:37:36< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you mean mutiplayer campaigns ?=
20141210 19:37:39< iceiceice> y
20141210 19:39:18< gfgtdf> iceiceice: actually we cannot knoew whether a [multiplayer] is a campaign or not and i think we can assume that if a wmldev writes a normal campaign he uses the [campaign]/[scenario] syntqax
20141210 19:49:36< ancestral> http://r.wesnoth.org/p578905
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20141210 20:37:44< shadowm> loonycyborg: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=578905#p578905  Perhaps it'd be a good idea to make the original MD5 and SHA1 available somewhere.
20141210 20:37:55< shadowm> Somewhere other than SF.net.
20141210 20:39:15< loonycyborg> shadowm: maybe I should just upload .exe.md5 file too?
20141210 20:40:00< loonycyborg> But I don't know much about protocols of such things
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20141210 20:40:50< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i was able to complie your cpommit
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20141210 20:41:42< iceiceice> gfgtdf: ok thanks
20141210 20:42:00< iceiceice> anonymissimus: can you try to build master and let me know if it works
20141210 20:44:08< shadowm> loonycyborg: I'd rather see both the MD5 and SHA1.
20141210 20:44:40< shadowm> files.w.o is a good place IMO but it doesn't hurt to have some redundancy, even though I do not trust SF.net nowadays.
20141210 20:44:41< loonycyborg> nonetheless, I have no idea where to host all them, and what's the proper way to make those files
20141210 20:44:56< shadowm> sha256sum foobar.exe > foobar.exe.sha256
20141210 20:45:39< shadowm> I don't know if you've noticed this before, but we have the MD5 of the source tarball on SF.net on a separate file.
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20141210 20:45:55< loonycyborg> yup, and mac release doesn't
20141210 20:46:04< shadowm> No other release does.
20141210 20:46:19< shadowm> However, the point here is that this is bad and SF.net's sums can't be trusted.
20141210 20:46:28< loonycyborg> but in which directory on wesnoth.org?
20141210 20:46:38< shadowm> I said files.w.o.
20141210 20:46:53< iceiceice> i thought md5 is also deprecated or whatever as far as security is concerned
20141210 20:46:53< loonycyborg> yes, it has a lot of directories
20141210 20:47:14< shadowm> The docroot of files.w.o has a copy of the source tarball.
20141210 20:47:32< shadowm> That seems like the most obvious choice to me.?
20141210 20:48:44< loonycyborg> does Ivanovic put them there as part of release procedure?
20141210 20:50:26< shadowm> Yes...
20141210 20:50:52< loonycyborg> I suppose I could upload installer there too, but it's 1 extra upload
20141210 20:51:18< shadowm> I say it's enough with having authoritative sums.
20141210 20:51:44< loonycyborg> hmm ok
20141210 20:52:23< loonycyborg> but I also could upload it on f.w.o and then upload it on sourceforge from f.w.o
20141210 20:52:33< loonycyborg> the only problem is authentication
20141210 20:52:47< loonycyborg> can rsync work between two remote hosts I wonder..
20141210 20:52:55< shadowm> Uploading the exe from f.w.o is a bad idea.
20141210 20:53:27< shadowm> Okay, if this really complicates thing too much for you then never mind.
20141210 20:54:24< loonycyborg> actually, it doesn't much.
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20141210 20:54:35< loonycyborg> I need to improve my upload script anyway
20141210 20:56:37< loonycyborg> shadowm: but why is uploading from f.w.o bad idea?
20141210 20:56:55< shadowm> Because then I get bugged by the traffic monitor.
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20141210 21:51:26< loonycyborg> shadowm: I uploaded checksums for 1.12 to f.w.o
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20141210 22:07:01< loonycyborg> actually, I can just upload wesnoth.exe in the same script
20141210 22:07:05< loonycyborg> to f.w.o
20141210 22:09:17< loonycyborg> but the question is whether I should create a subdir
20141210 22:09:39< loonycyborg> oh wait
20141210 22:09:48< loonycyborg> I'll just put them to hidden/win
20141210 22:10:55< loonycyborg> will extend it on next release
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20141210 22:12:12< irker290> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 f2346bfb7361 / src/gettext_boost.cpp: catch boost locale conversion_error and add debug info http://git.io/DJ3qcQ
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