--- Log opened Thu Dec 25 00:00:20 2014 20141225 00:19:39-!- irker665 [~irker@uruz.ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20141225 00:41:35-!- markus__ [~mjs-de@p508CB0BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20141225 00:41:58-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20141225 00:43:09-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 00:47:39-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit] 20141225 00:53:59-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20141225 01:07:59-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxsmadzzfgnxzyjs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20141225 01:14:16-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20141225 01:19:22-!- prkc [~prkc@4E5CCCAE.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20141225 01:33:48-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 01:58:41-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20141225 02:08:50-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 02:40:37-!- Coffee_irc [~david@ppp118-210-58-226.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20141225 03:13:29-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20141225 03:17:11-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@frnk-5f7529e5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 03:20:13-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@frnk-5f7529e5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20141225 03:20:13-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 03:20:36-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20141225 03:21:18-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20141225 04:10:56-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has quit [Quit: tomreyn] 20141225 05:12:57-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@static-50-108-31-113.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20141225 05:28:31< Necrosporus> I wonder why is difficulty usually ranging from low level to high level units while usually you got commander unit at the start in reversed order (like 0-1 lvl at hard and 2-3 lvl at medium) 20141225 05:39:42< vultraz> . . . 20141225 05:40:06< vultraz> It's obvious 20141225 05:40:15< vultraz> No really it is, think about it 20141225 05:44:37< Necrosporus> vultraz, it's obvious why you got lower level commander on harder difficulty, yes, but names for difficulties aren't obvious 20141225 05:45:17< vultraz> names for difficulty? 20141225 05:47:27< Necrosporus> Like Peasant, Soldier, Royal Guard or whatever 20141225 05:47:48< Necrosporus> usually named by commander unit's levels 20141225 05:48:33< vultraz> Oh, that. It confused me at first at too. It's just a visual icon representation for difficulties 20141225 05:48:55< vultraz> Really, don't overthink this stuff 20141225 05:48:59< vultraz> You're doing that 20141225 05:57:18-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@static-50-108-31-113.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 06:05:35-!- new_one [~new_one@50.15.126.83] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 20141225 06:33:36-!- localuser- [~none@gateway/tor-sasl/localuser-] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 06:38:13< vultraz> who the hell is this localuser 20141225 06:42:33-!- ancestral [~ancestral@108-249-32-209.lightspeed.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 07:08:50-!- Sulfur [~Miranda@p5B0080FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 07:23:40-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@p508CB0BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 07:35:51-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20141225 07:53:36-!- Pepe_ [~ppjet@anderith.bouah.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20141225 07:54:56-!- Pepe_ [~ppjet@anderith.bouah.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 08:17:12-!- ancestral [~ancestral@108-249-32-209.lightspeed.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20141225 08:31:09-!- cib0 [~cib@tmo-102-200.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 08:38:43-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 08:48:05-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 09:50:21-!- kex [~kex@77.29.140.43] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 09:51:49-!- localuser- [~none@gateway/tor-sasl/localuser-] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20141225 10:45:57-!- zookeeper [zookeeper@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 11:21:32-!- irker255 [~irker@uruz.ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 11:21:32< irker255> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 08352806cc3c / src/help/help_topic_generators.cpp: Display unit level under name, as opposed to next to image http://git.io/XbWVtw 20141225 11:26:29-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20141225 11:31:51< vultraz> Why can't the help dialog be translated to GUI2? 20141225 11:32:02< vultraz> something to do with the listboxes? 20141225 11:33:56-!- cib_ [~cib@tmo-096-29.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 11:34:00-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 11:37:39-!- cib0 [~cib@tmo-102-200.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20141225 11:59:46< irker255> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master c20ef0fa0d8a / src/help/help_impl.cpp: Don't allocate space for nonexistent race deceptions http://git.io/JRTGvA 20141225 12:02:37< zookeeper> race deceptions? O.o sounds serious 20141225 12:02:43< vultraz> derp 20141225 12:02:47< vultraz> descriptions 20141225 12:02:49< vultraz> :P 20141225 12:13:27< zookeeper> if you're doing work on the help, then i'd suggest fixing the way terrain descriptions are laid out in the terrain section 20141225 12:13:43< zookeeper> the first line appears next to the image, and the second line appears below the image 20141225 12:13:50< vultraz> zookeeper: done already 20141225 12:13:57< zookeeper> oh? awesome 20141225 12:14:58< vultraz> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5x80g9lfngwwhb0/terrain%20descrip.PNG?dl=0 20141225 12:15:47< vultraz> I also fixed the Image Not Found stuff at terrain toplevel 20141225 12:17:33< zookeeper> very good 20141225 12:26:12< vultraz> zookeeper: any other requests? 20141225 12:26:50< zookeeper> sure... 20141225 12:28:05< zookeeper> for example the terrain help should not list every friggin terrain 20141225 12:28:22< vultraz> it doesn't 20141225 12:28:23< zookeeper> it should list the terrains relevant for gameplay, not visual variations 20141225 12:29:40< zookeeper> summer/fall/winter deciduous/mixed forests + pine forest should IMO all just be "forest" 20141225 12:31:00< zookeeper> it's debatable whether palm trees, rainforests and great trees should have their own entries, but at least they're thematically more different than the half a dozen deciduous/mixed variants 20141225 12:34:04< zookeeper> there's a lot of simple visual variants in the terrain help. cave and earthy cave, all sorts of snowy castles, all the friggin different types of grass and other flats, bridges, ... 20141225 12:35:20< zookeeper> it's not exactly clear _how_ they should be consolidated, but i think it's clear there's too much stuff there now 20141225 12:36:04< zookeeper> the references to illuminated caves are wrong, but there's no entry for lit so the links can't be fixed to point to it 20141225 12:36:55< zookeeper> the "By Dwarfs. Mostly." part about rails needs to be... uh, improved 20141225 12:40:04-!- Kexoth [~kex@77.28.5.20] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 12:42:25-!- kex [~kex@77.29.140.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20141225 12:48:40-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 12:49:24-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20141225 13:15:38-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 13:17:29-!- Necrosporus [~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20141225 13:18:21-!- Necrosporus [~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 13:27:19-!- ToBeFree [ToBeFree@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 1337 seconds] 20141225 13:36:14-!- Fluffbeast [~Fluffbeas@pool-96-252-61-113.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 13:39:33-!- cib_ [~cib@tmo-096-29.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20141225 13:40:47< vultraz> zookeeper: should I remove the reference to illuminated? 20141225 13:43:22< vultraz> zookeeper: also, if we consolidated entries, we would have to do away with the debug terrain output 20141225 13:52:44-!- Fluffbeast [~Fluffbeas@pool-96-252-61-113.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20141225 14:03:09-!- cib0 [~cib@tmo-096-29.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 14:08:54-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@p508CB0BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20141225 14:35:40-!- new_one [~new_one@50.15.126.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 14:56:49-!- Necrosporus_ [~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 14:59:47-!- Necrosporus [~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20141225 15:00:28-!- irker255 [~irker@uruz.ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20141225 15:04:43-!- prkc [~prkc@4E5CCCAE.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 15:14:07< zookeeper> vultraz, i think lit should have its own entry... probably makes most sense in the cave category 20141225 15:25:39< vultraz> I'm not even sure how to divvy them up 20141225 15:25:51< vultraz> how to define what goes with what 20141225 15:31:06-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@105.153.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20141225 15:31:30-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@105.153.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 15:33:41-!- happygrue [~Laptop@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 15:58:00-!- Sulfur [~Miranda@p5B0080FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20141225 16:15:20-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 16:35:03-!- Sulfur [~Miranda@p5B0080FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 16:37:57-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20141225 16:39:31-!- localuser- [~none@gateway/tor-sasl/localuser-] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 16:42:55-!- DCW1 [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 16:45:19-!- happygrue_ [~Laptop@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 16:45:19-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20141225 16:46:05-!- localuser- [~none@gateway/tor-sasl/localuser-] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20141225 16:46:35-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20141225 16:47:56-!- happygrue [~Laptop@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20141225 16:52:10-!- happygrue_ is now known as happygrue 20141225 17:58:13-!- DCW1 [~Thunderbi@cpc66866-finc15-2-0-cust47.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: DCW1] 20141225 18:03:01-!- Necrosporus_ is now known as Necrosporus 20141225 18:16:10< Necrosporus> zookeeper, why not to have help sections for all terrains? 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