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20141219 02:51:02< Necrosporus> If someone made a game with Wesnoth rules and units but modern 3D graphics, would it be a good or bad thing?
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20141219 05:47:25< celticminstrel> Necrosporus: Wouldn't it just be Wesnoth?
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20141219 05:50:48< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, wesnoth with different engine
20141219 05:51:03< Necrosporus> And thus different language probably, not wml
20141219 05:51:30< celticminstrel> You only said different graphics.
20141219 05:51:36< Necrosporus> but 3D
20141219 05:51:46< celticminstrel> If you replace just the rendering engine and nothing else, I don't think you'd get a different game.
20141219 05:51:55< Necrosporus> so existing WML won't work, at least animation wml
20141219 05:52:31< Necrosporus> So I guess it's reasonable to get rid of WML all together
20141219 05:53:01< Necrosporus> I wonder also if there is some other language which would fit to a wesnoth-like game better than wml
20141219 05:54:00< Necrosporus> It should be easy to understand like WML (not all wml is so though) but in same time more consistent and easier to use for action
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20141219 06:11:30< celticminstrel> Only graphical WML would not work.
20141219 06:11:46< celticminstrel> "easy to understand like WML" - WML is easy to understand now?
20141219 06:12:10< celticminstrel> I think WML should be reserved for data (like unit definitions, for example) and Lua used for scripting.
20141219 06:12:16< celticminstrel> But, I doubt this will happen.
20141219 06:18:42< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, WML is easy to understand when it is used for unit and data description
20141219 06:18:58< Necrosporus> But it is much worse than other languages for events
20141219 06:19:29< celticminstrel> Events (and menu actions) would be much better in Lua.
20141219 06:19:41< celticminstrel> Of course, you can write their contents in Lua already.
20141219 06:19:57< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, I see your point, but isn't there a single language which could function both for data and scripts?
20141219 06:20:28< Necrosporus> SCUMM maybe? Or TADS?
20141219 06:20:31< celticminstrel> Well, technically you could use Lua for data too, but I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to use the same language for data and scripts.
20141219 06:20:43< celticminstrel> Data and scripts are rather different things.
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20141219 06:53:36< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, though you have to manipulate data in code
20141219 06:53:59< celticminstrel> True.
20141219 06:54:05< celticminstrel> What about it?
20141219 06:54:07< Necrosporus> So some unified language would be good, even if it has different syntax for setting up data en mass
20141219 06:54:26< celticminstrel> That makes it no longer a unified language. :P
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