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20150109 00:01:05< irker140> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 9cde1af9c8f7 / data/lua/wml-tags.lua: fix explicit indexes for [store_unit] http://git.io/1_YDpA
20150109 00:01:22< gfgtdf> vultraz: ^
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20150109 00:07:43< iceiceice> anonymissimus: re: esr and wmlindent,
20150109 00:07:53< iceiceice> ok but whatever the origins now many people use it on all the code
20150109 00:08:20< iceiceice> and it is written in the coding standards / whatever place on the wiki read it that it will be run regularly on all core wml
20150109 00:08:45< iceiceice> and no one seems to be unhappy about this
20150109 00:09:08< iceiceice> "and that mail just looks as an invitation to a tabs vs spaces war to me :P"
20150109 00:09:18< iceiceice> no, i think you missed my first part maybe,
20150109 00:09:32< iceiceice> i dont care about the outcome of this war i just want it to be settled and reach a consensus if possible
20150109 00:10:22< iceiceice> i think most people have no interest in such wars, which may give consensus a chance
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20150109 00:13:34< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i just saw your post on github,
20150109 00:13:43< iceiceice> i can't look at it in detial right now
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20150109 00:38:10< vultraz> gfgtdf: don't forget to update the wiki
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20150109 02:10:49< vultraz> shadowm: is this the type of commit message you meant http://pastebin.com/1fAu07Fi
20150109 02:21:58< shadowm> Yes, although you didn't need to make it a bulleted list.
20150109 02:24:39< shadowm> vultraz: And drop that bullet from the summary.
20150109 02:24:56< shadowm> Seriously. The summary line is a summary, not an enumeration.
20150109 02:25:59< vultraz> I copypasted from the commit tgit log window, it shows every commit summary with a bullet
20150109 02:26:02< vultraz> it's not there
20150109 02:26:57< vultraz> now where has espreon got to, I need him to check this
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20150109 04:14:36< irker004> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 3c882ae564c3 / data/core/about.cfg: Added myself to Programming http://git.io/oc06Zg
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20150109 09:42:18< irker305> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 59b57fab95f6 / data/hardwired/fonts.cfg fonts/DejaVuSans.ttf: Updated DejaVu Sans to 2.34 http://git.io/K_f3vA
20150109 09:42:18< irker305> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 0e63440aa46c / data/hardwired/fonts.cfg fonts/DejaVuSans.ttf: Merge branch 'update_dejavu_sans' http://git.io/nsEHHA
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20150109 10:54:02< irker305> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master ee868fc82b09 / data/lua/wml-tags.lua: Misc code cleanup http://git.io/u-trRA
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20150109 10:56:55< vultraz> hm...?
20150109 10:57:41 * vultraz makes note to check this out
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20150109 11:08:10< vultraz> oh, derp. I forgot to delete an 'end' key >_>
20150109 11:10:39< vultraz> still, other thing is different
20150109 11:11:22< vultraz> gfgtdf: is the index = index + 1 at L1266 supposed to still be there?
20150109 11:12:13< irker305> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master b4614de149f3 / data/lua/wml-tags.lua: Fixup ee868fc82b09. Forgot to remove an 'end' key http://git.io/kZU-Jw
20150109 11:13:09< irker305> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 5d5f85814f08 / data/campaigns/tutorial/scenarios/02_Tutorial_part_2.cfg: T S2: initial refactor. Still much to do http://git.io/RZuiHA
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20150109 11:46:16< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/46428551
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20150109 12:20:08< irker305> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master a7f4849836ff / data/game_config.cfg: Change title screen music to transience.ogg. http://git.io/4RVnYg
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20150109 12:28:23< vultraz> wat
20150109 12:29:16< vultraz> lipkab: why
20150109 12:29:27< zookeeper> vultraz, you don't read the forums?
20150109 12:29:36< vultraz> not often
20150109 12:29:46< zookeeper> anyway, wouldn't hurt to apply to 1.12 as well IMO
20150109 12:30:51< lipkab> Alright.
20150109 12:31:56< vultraz> huh
20150109 12:32:09< vultraz> well then, does main_menu.ogg get renamed to something?
20150109 12:32:13< irker305> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:1.12 155270b60588 / data/game_config.cfg: Change title screen music to transience.ogg. http://git.io/rnoYZQ
20150109 12:32:50< lipkab> vultraz: The notification comes with a handy link to the commit diff.
20150109 12:33:13< vultraz> no, I mean, the file
20150109 12:33:21< vultraz> I saw the diff
20150109 12:33:42< zookeeper> i see no reason to rename it and break references
20150109 12:33:49< vultraz> *shrug* true
20150109 12:34:07< lipkab> Hm, I feel as if I forgot something...
20150109 12:34:08< vultraz> (personally I would have preferred wanderer.ogg but I guess transience works)
20150109 12:34:31< zookeeper> some newbie might be temporarily confused as to why the file is named that but that's the lesser evil if you ask me
20150109 12:34:39< lipkab> ...changelogs!!!
20150109 12:34:42< zookeeper> oh no
20150109 12:35:08< lipkab> Did I ever tell you how much I hate changelogs?
20150109 12:35:13< lipkab> Sigh.
20150109 12:37:00< vultraz> especially since we have TWO changelogs :P
20150109 12:38:50< irker305> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:1.12 cf52bab9088d / changelog players_changelog: Changelog entries for previous commit. http://git.io/6mNwlg
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20150109 12:41:05< irker305> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 51d47b1ee41f / changelog players_changelog: Changelog entries for previous commit. http://git.io/A3rGuA
20150109 12:44:43< Necrosporus> I'm not sure, why?
20150109 12:45:14< Necrosporus> I mean why to change the theme to this?
20150109 12:46:07< Necrosporus> I agree that music theme change is not a bad thing as I heard wesnoth music like a hundred times but if change at all, why not to add a new track first?
20150109 12:46:43< vultraz> because we don't have unlimited composers
20150109 12:47:18< Necrosporus> But do we have at least on?
20150109 12:47:20< Necrosporus> one
20150109 12:47:27< vultraz> And because we can't get music from other sources like Vindsvept because we still use GPL for music
20150109 12:47:31< vultraz> the GPL*
20150109 12:47:45< vultraz> That may change soon, I dunno
20150109 12:48:36< vultraz> Necrosporus: to answer your question, not really
20150109 12:49:03< Necrosporus> Not even one?
20150109 12:49:16< Necrosporus> When a new track was added last time?
20150109 12:50:06< vultraz> 2011
20150109 12:50:20< Necrosporus> What's the name of it and version?
20150109 12:50:39< vultraz> a track that, according to the commit message, was "floating around since 2007" battle-epic.ogg
20150109 12:50:52< Necrosporus> I have started playing from 1.8.0, though I seen tutorial of 1.6.x something but wasn't impressed that time
20150109 12:52:26< vultraz> 2007-2009 was when the most music activity happened
20150109 12:52:35< Necrosporus> And I'm not sure but seems like some tracks are repeated
20150109 12:52:41< Necrosporus> or very similar 
20150109 12:53:14< Necrosporus> or I find them similar because I heard all of them before
20150109 12:53:55< vultraz> we have a larger selection of tracks than most games, but only a handful that fit a majority of te varied situations of UMC
20150109 12:53:59< vultraz> so yes, you would
20150109 12:55:03< Necrosporus> I can't remember I heard weight_of_revenge for example
20150109 12:55:32< Necrosporus> Are there any tracks not used by a single mainline campaign/menu/etc?
20150109 12:56:38< vultraz> some tracks are only appropriate in less common circumstances
20150109 13:00:16< lipkab> Necrosporus: We have exactly 0 active composers.
20150109 13:02:27< vultraz> yup
20150109 13:02:35< vultraz> and as I mentioned, we can't get music from anywhere else
20150109 13:03:27< Appleman1234> hmm
20150109 13:03:37< Appleman1234> does that mean wesnoth needs composers _
20150109 13:05:00< Necrosporus> There might be GPL'ed music somewhere
20150109 13:05:07< Necrosporus> In addons for example
20150109 13:05:28< Necrosporus> The most used track is victory
20150109 13:06:25< Necrosporus> for track in data/core/music/*; do track=${track%%.ogg}; track=${track##*/}; echo -n $track:; grep -r $track data | wc -l; done | sort -n -t: -k2
20150109 13:06:42< Necrosporus> This command should display statistic sorted by use if run from wesnoth directory
20150109 13:07:06< lipkab> Appleman1234: It's hard to say whether we *need* composers.
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20150109 13:07:41< lipkab> At least one Lord of Music said in the past that Wesnoth is pretty much completed from musical viewpoint.
20150109 13:08:19< Appleman1234> ok
20150109 13:08:56< Necrosporus> The problem is when you heard each theme about a thousand times you do not want to hear it anymore even if it's very good one
20150109 13:09:03< lipkab> Appleman1234: Of course, we won't turn down good quality contributions ;)
20150109 13:10:26< Appleman1234> does wesnoth support used supplied music loading ?
20150109 13:12:43< lipkab> Appleman1234: I'm afraid I don't understand the question.
20150109 13:13:10< Appleman1234> doesn't matter I just checked the version I had installed
20150109 13:13:31< Ravana_> you can replace music files if you want
20150109 13:13:34< Appleman1234> was just thinking of different solutions to the problem Necrosporus mentioned
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20150109 13:16:08< vultraz> the best solution would be to license our music and images under a non-GPL license
20150109 13:16:28< vultraz> that would allow us to use music from composers whose work is not done specifically for wesnoth
20150109 13:16:35< vultraz> and give us a much wider pool of selection
20150109 13:16:43< vultraz> The GPL is bad for stuff like music
20150109 13:16:58< Necrosporus> I do not see the problem with keeping existing music under GPL
20150109 13:18:09< Necrosporus> And if GPL by itself doesn't prohibit inclusion of non-gpl sounds/music/etc then there is no problem with starting to add non-gpled music beside changing copying notices
20150109 13:19:07< vultraz> it's more complicated than that
20150109 13:22:35< lipkab> What we definitely don't need is more tracks for the sake of having more tracks.
20150109 13:22:55< lipkab> Mind you guys, music costs a lot of bandwidth.
20150109 13:23:34< Appleman1234> I think the ability to have the user supply a folder with music , along with some keybindings to change music sources or skip tracks is an interesting feature
20150109 13:23:43< lipkab> The existing pool is sufficient for mainline and UMC authors can get music for their stuff from wherever they like (and legally can).
20150109 13:24:14< vultraz> the main use of this would be for UMC authors to get music from other places should they choose
20150109 13:26:02< lipkab> There are some 15 music resource addons on the server.
20150109 13:26:14< lipkab> Many of those already includes CC-licensed tracks.
20150109 13:26:19< lipkab> *include
20150109 13:26:20< vultraz> CC 0
20150109 13:26:23< vultraz> public domain
20150109 13:26:36< vultraz> what about stuff licensed under CC-BY-SA?
20150109 13:26:56< vultraz> there's some stuff I'd personally like to use if I could, but it's not GPL compatible
20150109 13:27:03< lipkab> West's Chronicles is CC-BY-SA.
20150109 13:27:37< lipkab> Although he also gave explicit permission to publish under GPL.
20150109 13:27:47< lipkab> *publish it
20150109 13:28:25< lipkab> IIRC CC-BY-SA 3.0 and onwards is GPL-compatible.
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20150109 13:34:16< vultraz> but we don't have permission to relicense the content under the GPL
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20150109 13:45:48< Necrosporus> why do you need to relicense it?
20150109 13:46:45< Necrosporus> I think if it's compatible is enough to distribute it within a gpled package
20150109 13:47:06< Necrosporus> you have to add a note in `copying` file though
20150109 13:47:45< vultraz> I'm not sure
20150109 13:48:27< Necrosporus> read gpl faq then
20150109 13:48:32< Necrosporus> and maybe gpl itself too
20150109 13:52:23< lipkab> vultraz: To my understanding "GPL-compatible" means that you can distribute it under GPL.
20150109 13:52:40< vultraz> hm..
20150109 13:52:48< vultraz> well, I looked it up
20150109 13:53:20< lipkab> Necrosporus: "and maybe gpl itself too" yeah, and get a lawyer diploma?
20150109 13:53:31< vultraz> "Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 2.0 license (a.k.a. CC BY-SA) (#ccbysa)
20150109 13:53:32< vultraz> This is a copyleft free license that is good for artistic and entertainment works, and educational works. Please don't use it for software or documentation, since it is incompatible with the GNU GPL and with the GNU FDL."
20150109 13:53:42< vultraz> I can't find anything on 3 in this list..
20150109 13:53:44< vultraz> hm..
20150109 13:54:06< Necrosporus> lipkab, it's not so hard
20150109 13:54:14< Necrosporus> I have read it myself
20150109 13:55:35< lipkab> Necrosporus: The problem is, you may *think* you understand what's written there, but in law, quite some stuff is not what it looks like.
20150109 13:57:48< vultraz> well, we can use cc-by-sa with gpl code, but our addon server still requires music under the gpl...
20150109 13:57:59< Necrosporus> I do not think I understand it completely but nevertheless I think I understand enough for answering most questions
20150109 13:59:49< vultraz> but if you say gpl- compatible means you can distribute it under the GPL
20150109 13:59:51< vultraz> yeah im confused
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20150109 17:02:43< gfgtdf> vultraz: no it isnt, ty
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20150109 20:13:43< iceiceice> "20150109 13:28:25< lipkab> IIRC CC-BY-SA 3.0 and onwards is GPL-compatible." <-- lipkab do you have citation for that?
20150109 20:13:57< iceiceice> from what i read, the CC people have discussed trying to become GPL compatible but never done it
20150109 20:14:06< iceiceice> https://wiki.creativecommons.org/GPL_compatibility_use_cases
20150109 20:14:16< iceiceice> "If any form of GPL-compatibility is to be pursued in 4.0 -- see 4.0/ShareAlike -- use cases that would benefit from such need to be explicated."
20150109 20:15:48< iceiceice> to the people who advocate totally abandoning GPL for CC, can I ask why you think CC is better?
20150109 20:15:57< iceiceice> the last time i looked at this stuff, was in this thread: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=39852
20150109 20:16:12< iceiceice> what i found was, GPL has a very long list of common licenses that it is compatible with
20150109 20:16:27< iceiceice> CC, besides CC-0 is not compatible with anything but itself in general
20150109 20:17:09< iceiceice> GNU publishes this page of compatible licesnses:
20150109 20:17:22< iceiceice> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses
20150109 20:17:25< iceiceice> its very long
20150109 20:17:37< iceiceice> CC publishes this page: http://creativecommons.org/compatiblelicenses
20150109 20:17:47< iceiceice> "Currently, no non-CC licenses have been designated as compatible with BY-SA 3.0."
20150109 20:18:07< iceiceice> so from this point of view CC looks like a pretty crappy license
20150109 20:20:40< iceiceice> what i think makes the most sense is to say, we will allow add-ons with CC content also,
20150109 20:20:50< iceiceice> maybe you check a box indicating if you are GPL, CC, or mix or something
20150109 20:21:17< iceiceice> that's just my take on it though
20150109 20:22:01< iceiceice> i don't see why we would try to contact all artists and ask them to relicense work from 10 or 15 years ago
20150109 20:30:09< iceiceice> lipkab: fwiw i think its fine to look at GPL yourself to get the idea,
20150109 20:30:24< iceiceice> you may need a lawyer to understand the finer points and to advise you whether some course of action is legal,
20150109 20:30:40< iceiceice> but contract law at least in the US takes the point of view that the contract is an agreement between you and another person entered into in good faith,
20150109 20:30:51< iceiceice> if you can't understand the contract then you are supposed to not have agreed to it
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20150109 20:56:52< zookeeper> shadowm, you don't think the 20s long really quiet intro of journey's end makes it awkward as a titlescreen theme?
20150109 20:58:29< shadowm> No.
20150109 21:00:13< vultraz> I second that no
20150109 21:00:27< vultraz> Personally, I think transience is too short for the titlescreen
20150109 21:00:32< lipkab> iceiceice: I don't have any citation, I just think I read that a long time ago, in a galaxy... so it might very well be false.
20150109 21:03:39< lipkab> zookeeper: Shall we play Wesnoth? :]
20150109 21:04:11< zookeeper> hmm
20150109 21:04:17< zookeeper> i don't see why not!
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20150109 21:07:39< lipkab> vultraz: How much time do you usually spend in the main menu?
20150109 21:08:01< lipkab> Because for me, it's rarely longer than ~20 sec.
20150109 21:08:51< vultraz> For a new player it's longer
20150109 21:09:09< vultraz> also, transience just seems too short and flat
20150109 21:09:52< vultraz> journey's end has a rousing bit in the middle
20150109 21:10:04< lipkab> Well, it's a bold 3 seconds shorter than main_menu.ogg.
20150109 21:10:06< vultraz> wanderer would be my other choice, but only because I really love the intro
20150109 21:10:15< lipkab> I agree that it's a bit dull.
20150109 21:11:06< vultraz> the old theme's rousing intro made up for its length
20150109 21:15:00< vultraz> journey's end has a nice 3 minutes to cover any amount of time someone might spend on the screen 
20150109 21:15:05< vultraz> 3:44 actually
20150109 21:15:19< vultraz> wanderer is 4:22
20150109 21:16:09< vultraz> though after listening to it again, it does seem a bit unsuitable for the ts
20150109 21:16:15< vultraz> so I think I'd cast my vote for je
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20150109 22:18:19< zookeeper> lipkab, ok, my version of the manual save is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/2p_%E2%80%94_The_Freelands_Turn_10_zoo_afterOSS
20150109 22:18:42< lipkab> zookeeper: Mine here: http://pastebin.com/CuZ8wEaq
20150109 22:20:29< zookeeper> all right
20150109 22:22:29< zookeeper> well, side 1 fog_data is very different
20150109 22:22:37< zookeeper> side 2 fog_data is identical
20150109 22:24:04< zookeeper> background for anyone else: we had lots of fog-related OOS, started happening after i had played with DSU when it was not my turn, which seems to trigger the annoying illegal command errors. dunno if the two are really related though.
20150109 22:25:44< zookeeper> lipkab, oh, btw, maybe we should save our stderrs too, in case they're needed
20150109 22:26:22< lipkab> Well, I don't have my stderr... I'm on Linux.
20150109 22:26:38< lipkab> stderr was sent to /dev/null.
20150109 22:27:12< lipkab> Or is it .xsession-errors?
20150109 22:28:03< lipkab> Hey, it's there.
20150109 22:29:19< zookeeper> yay
20150109 22:31:55< lipkab> zookeeper: http://pastebin.com/5najcG79
20150109 22:32:18< lipkab> Nothing too interesting here.
20150109 22:32:44< zookeeper> yeah, none of the OOS stuff for instance :P
20150109 22:33:35< lipkab> Meanwhile, I discovered another problem.
20150109 22:34:07< lipkab> There's a lot of irrelevant [options] blocks in your savefile.
20150109 22:34:27< lipkab> I mean [option]
20150109 22:35:08< lipkab> (But that's not too interesting either right now)
20150109 22:36:08< zookeeper> humm
20150109 22:36:44< zookeeper> you were on 1.12.0+dev, i was on 1.12.0. maybe relevant, maybe not.
20150109 22:36:56< zookeeper> i mean of course it shouldn't be relevant, but still :p
20150109 22:37:38< shadowm> Make sure to file a bug report so it can be marked as a blocker for 1.12.1.
20150109 22:41:39< zookeeper> that's the idea, i suppose
20150109 22:42:21< zookeeper> it's interesting how the shape of the fog_data is different
20150109 22:42:42< zookeeper> (very slightly)
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20150109 22:44:20< zookeeper> in our saves, your leader is in a different place. dunno if that's just because you moved it after i saved but before you saved...
20150109 23:01:32< lipkab> zookeeper: Well, maybe we should make a try without you messing with DSU?
20150109 23:01:51< zookeeper> i don't know if i can control myself!
20150109 23:02:04< zookeeper> but yeah, i suppose it should be reasonable quick to re-test
20150109 23:02:24< zookeeper> reasonably, even
20150109 23:03:18< lipkab> Then get on the server before someone steals your spot.
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20150109 23:17:10< gfgtdf> zookeeper: DSU = delayed shroud update?
20150109 23:18:03< zookeeper> yes
20150109 23:18:28< gfgtdf> zookeeper: did you reload during the game or use debug mode?
20150109 23:18:46< zookeeper> neither
20150109 23:18:50< zookeeper> can't use debug mode in MP anyway
20150109 23:19:24< gfgtdf> zookeeper: afaik if you start wesnoth with -d cou can 
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20150109 23:26:15< zookeeper> well, we failed to reproduce the OOS, but the DSU illegal command errors are easy to reproduce
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20150109 23:28:27< gfgtdf> zookeeper: so teh server says illegal command?
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20150109 23:33:40< gfgtdf> zookeeper: how do reoriduce teh illegal command ?
20150109 23:34:21< zookeeper> gfgtdf, make a 2p network game, have one player toggle DSU on during their turn, and then have them toggle it off during the enemy's turn
20150109 23:35:05< gfgtdf> zookeeper: i don't think its supposed to be possible to turn that on/off during the enies turn
20150109 23:35:20< zookeeper> yes, i agree
20150109 23:35:45< gfgtdf> zookeeper: actualyl i didnt name to turn that onn of durign teh enmies turn in 1.12
20150109 23:36:55< zookeeper> err... rephrase or fix typos? :P
20150109 23:37:31< gfgtdf> zookeeper: when i press the checkpox of DSU during an emeies turn abolutely nothign happen.
20150109 23:37:39< zookeeper> move the enemy
20150109 23:37:47< zookeeper> it seems the messages appear then
20150109 23:37:56< zookeeper> (just tested it myself)
20150109 23:38:43< gfgtdf> zookeeper: do you use plannign mode ?
20150109 23:38:46< zookeeper> no
20150109 23:40:28< gfgtdf> zookeeper: here toggling DSU durign an enemies turn doesn't work, just like it should.
20150109 23:40:50< zookeeper> it doesn't actually clear the checkbox for me either
20150109 23:41:15< zookeeper> but it still produces the error (after the enemy makes a move)
20150109 23:44:32< zookeeper> doesn't reproduce for you?
20150109 23:46:45< gfgtdf> zookeeper: ok i didnt get the server message but i did get the OOS related relates to shroud updats (calculates destination isnt teh original destination)
20150109 23:46:53< zookeeper> woot
20150109 23:46:55< zookeeper> cool :P
20150109 23:47:44< zookeeper> you tested with 1.12.0+dev or just 1.12.0?
20150109 23:48:14< zookeeper> in my game with lipkab (and subsequent attempt to reproduce the OOS), he was on 1.12.0+dev and i was on 1.12.0
20150109 23:49:00< gfgtdf> zookeeper: 1.12.0
20150109 23:49:51< zookeeper> i see
20150109 23:50:50< zookeeper> when you got the OOS, did the moves involve either side sighting the other, or were the moves which caused the OOS completely concealed from the other side?
20150109 23:52:27< gfgtdf> zookeeper: the oos was caused by that one side i got a sighted durign the move, but the other client didnt abort the move, most likeley becaseu other other client DSU is active.
20150109 23:52:52< gfgtdf> zookeeper: i'll now try to repoduce teh bug on 1.13
20150109 23:54:27< zookeeper> i can't say i completely understand, but i don't know if i really need to... i can't fix the bug, in any case :p
20150109 23:54:56< zookeeper> oh, nice, now i got an assert when quitting the game...
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20150109 23:57:24< gfgtdf> zookeeper: on 1.12+dev ?
20150109 23:57:32< zookeeper> 1.12.0
20150109 23:57:43< gfgtdf> zookeeper: and what does it say ? 
20150109 23:58:08< zookeeper> i'll try again, if it reproduces i'll just file a bug, it was pretty straightforward...
20150109 23:58:30< gfgtdf> zookeeper: qA IT RELATED TO MPSYNC ß
20150109 23:58:38< gfgtdf> zookeeper: sry for caps, was accidently
20150109 23:58:49< zookeeper> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/mp_quit_assert.png
20150109 23:59:36< zookeeper> well... failed to reproduce
20150109 23:59:48< zookeeper> i'll file a report anyway
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