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20150120 02:54:34< Mr_Bones_> seems like something like this: http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/games-strategy/wesnoth/files/wesnoth-1.12-cmake.patch?view=markup is needed to build for just the server
20150120 02:54:43< Mr_Bones_> (under cmake)
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20150120 03:55:03< Mr_Bones_> Ivanovic: you see that patch? ^^^
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20150120 05:14:06< Necrosporus> It's tempting to install Inclusion Order Test addon when its description says "DO NOT INSTALL"
20150120 05:17:21< Necrosporus> though it doesnt seem to contain anything 
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20150120 06:59:16< Necrosporus> Why doesn't build type in ccmake toggle when you press enter like other fields with ON/OFF options?
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20150120 07:00:11< Necrosporus> it's empty by default and there are no hint what you should type in (like "Debug", "DEBUG" or "debug")
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20150120 07:08:37< Ivanovic> Mr_Bones_: thanks for the report
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20150120 07:08:40< irker722> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 a41e5e319bad / CMakeLists.txt changelog: fixed building wesnothd without game http://git.io/nKisBg
20150120 07:08:40< irker722> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 433fde99a179 / CMakeLists.txt changelog: fixed building wesnothd without game http://git.io/rmxpVQ
20150120 07:08:44< Ivanovic> Mr_Bones_: i fixed it but using a slightly different fix
20150120 07:08:57< Ivanovic> IIRC only wesnothd but not campgaind or tests need this one
20150120 07:09:02< Mr_Bones_> yeah, I wasn't in love with that patch
20150120 07:09:41< Mr_Bones_> I'
20150120 07:10:14< Mr_Bones_> I'm forcing boost filesystem in the gentoo ebuild right now.  any thought on that?
20150120 07:10:41< Ivanovic> what do you mean with forcing it?
20150120 07:11:03< Mr_Bones_> I'm not exposing it as an option to turn it off
20150120 07:11:17< Necrosporus> why?
20150120 07:11:29< Necrosporus> I use build without it
20150120 07:11:36< Ivanovic> ah, that is fine
20150120 07:11:58< Necrosporus> I do not think so as it introduces a new dependency
20150120 07:11:59< Mr_Bones_> it seems like the "good one" as far as where the code is headed.
20150120 07:12:17< Ivanovic> the way to deactivate it is just for the pandora
20150120 07:12:18< Necrosporus> why not to let the user to turn it off
20150120 07:12:39< Ivanovic> since there it would be a huge hassle to build the library itself and bundle it and i just don't have the time to do anything like this
20150120 07:13:13< Necrosporus> So why do you think it wouldn't be a hassle for me for example?
20150120 07:13:25< Necrosporus> I do not have required version of boost installed
20150120 07:13:28< Mr_Bones_> I don't think pandora is the only thing involved though right?  Someone could build with just raw filesystem functions instead of boost right now, right?
20150120 07:13:39< Necrosporus> yes
20150120 07:13:51< Ivanovic> could but it is no longer supported
20150120 07:13:53< Ivanovic> if it works: okay
20150120 07:13:59< Ivanovic> of bugs occur: use boost filesystem
20150120 07:14:16< Necrosporus> how do I know if bug occurs due to that?
20150120 07:14:29< Necrosporus> and won't boost be slower?
20150120 07:14:43< Necrosporus> it's not needed for GNU/Linux with unicode locale
20150120 07:14:48< Mr_Bones_> yeah, that's what I thought.  I'm comfortable with my position on it even though I'm getting a little bit of pushback on the boost locale dep
20150120 07:15:28< Ivanovic> Necrosporus: easy: because the wesnoth team is not able to support multiple code paths
20150120 07:17:26< Necrosporus> why not to support only one without boost then?
20150120 07:22:02< shadowm> Because that's how Wesnoth has been broken on Windows forever.
20150120 07:23:26< Necrosporus> ok, but what's about ccmake interface?
20150120 07:23:41< Necrosporus> I had no idea wesnoth was compiled with -O0 by default
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20150120 07:30:02< Ivanovic> anyway, got to leave for work, CU
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20150120 08:23:37< ancestral> I found an add-on with an empty “COPYING.txt” file.
20150120 08:24:01< vultraz> and?
20150120 08:25:03< ancestral> Clearly the mod doesn’t have a license! It’s public domain
20150120 08:26:55< ancestral> (because the copying.txt file is blank)
20150120 08:28:05< ancestral> It also, not coincidentally, is the smallest add-on on the 1.12 server
20150120 08:49:29< Necrosporus> it's actually GPL as addon offfer states 
20150120 08:50:18< Necrosporus> I mean add-on upload offer
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20150120 10:12:10< Elvish_Hunter> Hi all
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20150120 10:13:41< irker121> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 04f267e36b31 / data/tools/GUI.pyw: GUI.pyw: force Disable checks for unknown units when Skip core directory is enab http://git.io/OyGZdQ
20150120 10:13:41< irker121> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 2625c02f4d65 / data/tools/GUI.pyw: GUI.pyw: use a better error message when Skip core directory is on and there is  http://git.io/sshjSA
20150120 10:13:42< irker121> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master b39efb97f9b5 / data/tools/GUI.pyw: GUI.pyw: added a Clear button to the directory selection box http://git.io/Sxb0nw
20150120 10:18:04< vultraz> hey Elvish_Hunter 
20150120 10:18:39< Elvish_Hunter> Hi vultraz!
20150120 10:22:28< Elvish_Hunter> vultraz: I just made a forum post that briefly explains my modifications to GUI.pyw: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=40397&p=580045#p580045
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20150120 10:34:48< vultraz> nice :D
20150120 10:37:47< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 583c70ca454c / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/01_At_the_East_Gate.cfg: THoT S1: cleaned up code http://git.io/py1N8Q
20150120 10:37:50< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 73fb7d3dcf7f / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/ (_main.cfg maps/02_Reclaiming_the_Past.map scenarios/02_Reclaiming_the_Past.cfg): THoT S2: reworked/simplified scenario http://git.io/d-lBPw
20150120 10:40:32< vultraz> Elvish_Hunter: the app won't run for me after the last commit
20150120 10:42:11< vultraz> self.img=PhotoImage(file="/media/linux/USB DISK/GUI/edit-clear3.gif")
20150120 10:42:12< vultraz> ?
20150120 10:43:52< Elvish_Hunter> Yes, it was a line that I used for testing. I'm removing it.
20150120 10:44:21< irker121> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master c65c9759d66a / data/tools/GUI.pyw: GUI.pyw: removed a line that I used while developing the latest modifications http://git.io/gAhsVw
20150120 10:44:36< zookeeper> does "skip core directory" mean that it won't even read it, or only that it won't try to fix it?
20150120 10:44:54< vultraz> won't read
20150120 10:44:57< zookeeper> okay
20150120 10:45:17< vultraz> Elvish_Hunter: works again
20150120 10:45:36< Necrosporus> what's pyw?
20150120 10:46:00< vultraz> python file, no console
20150120 10:47:48< Elvish_Hunter> @zookeeper: of course, skipping the core directory causes wmllint to output a mountain of error messages about missing unit types. That's why one of my commits forces the --known switch if Skip core directory is selected.
20150120 10:48:06< zookeeper> yeah
20150120 10:49:24< Elvish_Hunter> @vultraz: while creating the Clear button, I had to work a bit on its icon: since GIF doesn't support full transparency, I have to semi-flatten them, by using a certain command in GIMP.
20150120 10:50:27< vultraz> Elvish_Hunter: would it be trivial to make the filechooser dialog open at the dir that's currently selected, as opposed to always USERDATA/data/add-ons by default?
20150120 10:50:31< Elvish_Hunter> So, in order to test the resulting icon, i created three variants of them and tested them as files. Then, when I converted one of them as base64, I simply forgot to remove the "self.img=..." line.
20150120 10:51:35< Elvish_Hunter> And yes, the file chooser modification is possible: it just needs another variable and some testing ;-)
20150120 10:58:11< zookeeper> vultraz, btw, i think it'd be easy enough to write new castle macros to handle differently-cut walls and towers so that they could easily work better with cavewall etc. the problem is keeps, which introduce a lot more rules WRT how they must connect with the castles.
20150120 10:58:44< zookeeper> ...or at least that's why initial impression
20150120 10:58:49< zookeeper> s/why/my
20150120 11:00:30< vultraz> hm...
20150120 11:00:57< zookeeper> but of course the task of re-cutting all castles still remains, so it's not a very tempting option in any case :J
20150120 11:03:53< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 50d6632e5513 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/03_Strange_Allies.cfg: THot S3: cleaned up code http://git.io/yNm6kA
20150120 11:05:03< vultraz> not to be disparaging of the guy who wrote THoT, but they seem to have cared nothing for code tidyness >_>
20150120 11:08:06< vultraz> It's like they just threw it together as fast as possible
20150120 11:09:15< zookeeper> that's a possibility
20150120 11:09:44< zookeeper> sweet, you can use F5 in the editor \o/
20150120 11:09:56< Elvish_Hunter> vultraz: these lines need to be backported from S3 to S2 in Angarthing's [unit] or [modify_unit] tag: http://pastebin.com/rSVqqMSL
20150120 11:10:30< Elvish_Hunter> Of course, you can use the {MAKE_HERO} macro as well.
20150120 11:10:46< vultraz> ah, thanks for the catch :D
20150120 11:10:52< vultraz> I had missed that
20150120 11:11:48< Elvish_Hunter> Well, thank you for catching my mistake earlier... Now we're even :-P
20150120 11:19:30< Elvish_Hunter> Well, now I have to go. Bye!
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20150120 11:21:24< zookeeper> vultraz, it's possible to fix the castle<->cavewall thing in WML though, i'll see if i can figure out a good way
20150120 11:22:07< vultraz> I had code for the thing I showed in my screenshot, but now I accidentally lost it again >_>
20150120 11:22:28< vultraz> basically, exclude X* from the castle wall drawing
20150120 11:22:49< vultraz> if castles were cut to edges of towers, we might not need as many transition images at all
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20150120 11:23:45< zookeeper> well, yours has the problem that it draws dwarven walls
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20150120 11:24:40< zookeeper> what does your WML for those look like?
20150120 11:24:43< vultraz> deliberate rule
20150120 11:24:43< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 9b3a0ca9cdef / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/02_Reclaiming_the_Past.cfg: THoT S2: added some stats back to Angarthing I missed when I merged his initiali http://git.io/8DfrXg
20150120 11:25:25< vultraz> I lost the code, but I believe it was {NEW:WALL2            (C*)      X*                   (!,Cud,Kud,X*)       castle/dwarven-castle-wall}
20150120 11:25:40< vultraz> else, those sections have no walls
20150120 11:29:42< zookeeper> ok, well, what i want to try is to draw walls and towers onto the (C*) (X*) (!,C*,X*) intersection, but no further
20150120 11:30:11< zookeeper> i mean that doesn't require any special transitions, only the WML to draw the right tiles in the right places
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20150120 11:40:18< zookeeper> (and by aforementioned i mean like this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/castletocavewallsketch.jpg )
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20150120 12:17:11< zookeeper> vultraz, progress: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/castletocavewallprogress1.jpg only the layering is a problem (and then of course making sure keeps etc work)
20150120 12:21:06< vultraz> zookeeper: you mean the transparent towers?
20150120 12:21:25< zookeeper> yes
20150120 12:21:55< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 5b077590a085 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/02_Reclaiming_the_Past.cfg: T S2: cutscene scenario, we don't want bonus, carryover report, or linger mode http://git.io/9o4FTg
20150120 12:25:29< Necrosporus> vultraz, you seem to be shuffling code blocks for no apparent (for me) reason
20150120 12:30:44< Necrosporus> zookeeper, I do not think that parts of towers poking out of wall is a good thing, but I guess it's temporary
20150120 12:31:02< Necrosporus> maybe it makes sense to not put the towers right next to the wall?
20150120 12:31:32< Necrosporus> If I would be building a castle near a cliff, I would add some space between them and cliff probably
20150120 12:38:05< vultraz> Necrosporus: I'm cleaning up the code, moving things into logical sequence
20150120 12:38:16< vultraz> getting rid of useless keys
20150120 12:38:29< vultraz> and also doing some improvements if i come across areas that merit it
20150120 12:39:07< Necrosporus> I'm not sure if getting rid of 'useless' keys is a good idea, for I prefer to specify options even if they match default as default might change some time
20150120 12:39:56< Necrosporus> Though changing defaults is not a good idea most of time so probably it won't happen often
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20150120 12:42:16< Necrosporus> vultraz, what is the logical sequence for code blocks?
20150120 12:42:40< Necrosporus> I would really want to know 
20150120 12:44:50< vultraz> it's my own convention 
20150120 12:51:18< vultraz> but it makes the code more readable
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20150120 12:51:29< Necrosporus> is it specified anywhere?
20150120 12:51:59< vultraz> No
20150120 12:55:22< vultraz> It's just my coding style
20150120 12:56:38< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 4afd88a4a54c / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/04_Troll_Bridge.cfg: THoT S4: cleaned up code http://git.io/mF5NDw
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20150120 13:15:10< zookeeper> vultraz, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/castletocavewallprogress2.jpg
20150120 13:15:22< zookeeper> pretty good, no? (aside from those few sets of walls clipping onto the towers south of them)
20150120 13:15:47< zookeeper> at least a lot better than currently or the dwarvish alternative
20150120 13:18:00< vultraz> pretty good. but it is debatable whether we should have towers directly next to caves
20150120 13:19:28< zookeeper> it's not debatable if no one would do it anyway :p
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20150120 13:23:16< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master e82b13682a74 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/05_Invaders.cfg: THoT S5: cleaned up code http://git.io/ELm9ZA
20150120 13:23:21< vultraz> note to self: go back and deal with some refactoring there 
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20150120 13:55:09< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 906f6bcfe434 / data/themes/_initial.cfg: Fixed path to default replay theme toolbar image http://git.io/nadhVQ
20150120 13:55:12< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master c93808f859d9 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/06_High_Pass.cfg: THot S6: forgot to fix some macro arg references http://git.io/xOlt6w
20150120 13:55:23< vultraz> shadowm: is 906f6bcfe434  needed in 1.12
20150120 13:56:48< irker121> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master bfadb62c3b46 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/02_Reclaiming_the_Past.cfg: THoT S2: no replay either http://git.io/ETNPNQ
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20150120 14:49:50< loonycyborg> hmm
20150120 14:50:07< loonycyborg> it seems windows7 recognizes "." convention for hidden files
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20150120 14:54:15< loonycyborg> shadowm: I was able to reproduce the status bar issue too
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20150120 15:44:41< loonycyborg> shadowm: this bahavior might suggest it tracks download progress and not upload
20150120 15:44:46< loonycyborg> *behavior
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20150120 15:45:28< loonycyborg> at least this is what it reminds me
20150120 15:45:49< loonycyborg> wored like that before I added ability to track upload progress instead of download progress
20150120 15:47:04< loonycyborg> but it seems unlikely to be windows-specific issue :/
20150120 15:47:16< loonycyborg> so probably that's something else
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20150120 16:14:54< loonycyborg> shadowm: I think it's due to way asio works on windows. Maybe it handles entire operation in one chunk, no matter how large input buffer is
20150120 16:20:30< loonycyborg> only is_write_complete sets bytes_written_, and it's a callback from asio
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20150120 16:43:28< loonycyborg> shadowm: basically it writes entire buffer in 1 chunk and then waits for read operation to complete, which completes when os finishes sending the data and gets response from server
20150120 16:44:21< loonycyborg> maybe it's asio bug
20150120 16:44:42< loonycyborg> maybe there's some switch to force it to send in small chunks
20150120 16:49:56< loonycyborg> maybe http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_57_0/doc/html/boost_asio/reference/socket_base/send_buffer_size.html
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20150120 18:39:16< irker773> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master e97392410dd3 / po/wesnoth/gd.po: updated Scottish Gaelic translation http://git.io/8nlfrQ
20150120 18:39:16< irker773> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 5b850e2e24a5 / / (5 files in 4 dirs): updated Spanish translation http://git.io/dSZ6EQ
20150120 18:39:16< irker773> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 264d840bc248 / changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth/gd.po: updated Scottish Gaelic translation http://git.io/-KNFjQ
20150120 18:50:42< Mr_Bones_> too bad the translations can't be handled like a custom level that gets downloaded when the program starts
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20150120 18:52:36< Ivanovic> jepp
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20150120 19:39:26< irker773> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master a6eb11d50e4a / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/08_Fear.cfg: THoT S8: cleaned up code http://git.io/EFsPug
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20150120 22:20:42< aquileia> Ivanovic: The reason I asked is that PR369 doesn't introduce any translatable string objects but images that have to be localized, so these aren't part of the 100% translation mark
20150120 22:21:10< aquileia> s/images/an image
20150120 22:22:05< aquileia> And I wasn't sure whether the string freeze applies to tstrings or text
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