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20150125 02:10:06-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: String-freeze on 1.12 branch still active | Version 1.12.1 tagged, announcement coming "eventually" | Wesnoth Developers Channel | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org
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20150125 02:42:13< aquileia> vultraz: The NR story screens are horrible - the {STORY_PART_* ...} macros are only used about half of the time, so inmidst a dialogue the formatting changes between
20150125 02:42:41< aquileia> a) highlighted name, small image
20150125 02:42:53< aquileia> b) no name, fullscreen image
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20150125 04:12:49< vultraz> aquileia: well, if you can standardize them, that would be great (re NR screens)
20150125 04:13:03< aquileia> I'm at it
20150125 04:15:00< vultraz> :)
20150125 04:15:27< aquileia> You'd have to play through the story sections though - I can't guarantee that I don't make a mistake somewhere
20150125 04:17:48< aquileia> The most likely error would be that I mix up who spoke a line somewhere. And even though I play through them myself, I might overlook something
20150125 04:24:14< aquileia> shadowm: Does a code overhaul fixing graphical and grammatical issues count as a bug fix and can be backported to the 1.12 branch?
20150125 04:24:58< shadowm> I think I answered this question the other day.
20150125 04:25:02< aquileia> No new strings - I only delete typoed versions of strings that exist multiple times
20150125 04:25:57< aquileia> And yes, NR has these...
20150125 04:28:52< aquileia> shadowm: Sorry, but I can't find it
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20150125 04:55:44< shadowm> aquileia: Basically, we can't accept large code overhauls in stable without a very good reason because they are likely to introduce new, possibly worse bugs than the existing. This applies to all areas, not just C++.
20150125 04:56:27< shadowm> Whether your changes qualify as a large overhaul or not is a different matter and since I don't have a crystal ball...
20150125 04:57:36< aquileia> Well, it only changes NR's story screens and thus could only break these - which honestly are in a pretty bad shape right now
20150125 04:58:06< aquileia> So I'd assume it really can't be worse
20150125 04:58:17< shadowm> That doesn't sound too bad if you put it that way.
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20150125 05:52:17< shadowm> ancestral: No luck with (finding time for) the OS X build yet?
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20150125 05:52:36< ancestral> I believe I have it ready except for translations
20150125 05:53:22< ancestral> I’ve pm’d mattsc, hopefully he’ll get back soon. I know today/yesterday he was traveling
20150125 05:59:56< shadowm> aquileia: You are now a member of the Developers group on the forums. There's a PM awaiting in your inbox.
20150125 06:01:15< shadowm> aquileia: Also, if you haven't subscribed to the developers' mailing list on gna.org yet, now is the time to do so.
20150125 06:02:26< shadowm> aquileia: And if you have an existing Gna.org account or create one in order to be able to assign bugs to yourself (among other possible actions), do tell me so I can add it there as well.
20150125 06:06:13< shadowm> ancestral: Mysteriously, mattsc never added himself to the Packagers section of the game credits in data/core/about.cfg, but that's a thing you should do nonetheless.
20150125 06:06:51< ancestral> Oh, okay
20150125 06:07:51< ancestral> shadowm: I may choose to refrain from usng my real name, or I may use a pseudonym
20150125 06:08:15< ancestral> If that is unacceptable, we can talk in privaye about it
20150125 06:08:18< ancestral> *private
20150125 06:08:35< shadowm> Listing yourself as 'ancestral' isn't an option?
20150125 06:08:47< ancestral> Oh sorry, yes, “ancestral” is fine
20150125 06:09:13< shadowm> Well, you wouldn't be the first or the last developer who's only mentioned by nickname in the credits.
20150125 06:09:43< ancestral> I see
20150125 06:10:33< shadowm> That said, someone trying hard enough might still be able to make a connection between your real name and nickname by looking at your post history, Git committer/author identification, GitHub account, etc. It's up to you, anyway.
20150125 06:10:56< ancestral> Oh for sure, if someone connects all the dots, they’d know who I was
20150125 06:11:09< ancestral> I’m just trying not to draw attention to myself
20150125 06:12:37< ancestral> and trying to avoid Bad Things™ if, say, my name was in the credits and someone put it together
20150125 06:13:24< ancestral> It’s just a gray area, really
20150125 06:16:02< shadowm> aquileia: So yeah, welcome to The Battle for Wesnoth Project!
20150125 06:16:16 * shadowm is off now.
20150125 06:16:17< aquileia> shadowm: thanks!
20150125 06:18:50< ancestral> aquileia: I feel like you’ve been around for a while?
20150125 06:19:02< ancestral> I just got a club card, too (sorta)
20150125 06:20:04< aquileia> It's not as if I didn't see you around for a long time as well
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20150125 06:23:12< aquileia> ancestral: Anyhow - welcome!
20150125 06:23:19< ancestral> Thanks!
20150125 06:24:44< shadowm> ancestral: I forgot to give you the welcome because I was too busy with the preparations for 1.12.1. Welcome too!
20150125 06:24:58< ancestral> Thanks shadowm :)
20150125 06:30:56< vultraz> shadowm: ya know, I kinda dislike the way NR uses storyscreens as cutscenes
20150125 06:31:00< vultraz> I think we should change this
20150125 06:31:33< shadowm> LoW does the same thing IIRC.
20150125 06:32:06< vultraz> yes, but we can't touch LoW
20150125 06:32:13< vultraz> it's under fabi's protection
20150125 06:32:27< shadowm> Possibly DM as well, can't/too lazy to confirm. I do vaguely recall _somebody_ (kitty?) speaking out against that tendency.
20150125 06:33:45< shadowm> Maybe I'm remembering wrong and it's all in my head. Either way, it is a problem in that portraits in storyscreens have their bottom cut off in the middle of the screen rather than aligned to a screen corner.
20150125 06:35:09< shadowm> And even if you used some dirty hackery to align them to a corner, the text box overlay would be drawn over the portrait rather than below.
20150125 06:36:12< shadowm> tl;dr storyscreens are not intended as a substitute for [message] and shouldn't be used as such in mainline.
20150125 06:36:41< vultraz> So it's alright if I change them to in-scenario messages?
20150125 06:37:05< vultraz> Once I get to NR, that is
20150125 06:37:07< shadowm> Iff that is feasible without breaking the scenario's intended flow.
20150125 06:37:22< vultraz> I might have to add some cutscene scenarios, i dunno
20150125 06:38:13< vultraz> we should definitely merge aquileia's PR for now, make it easier to work with
20150125 06:38:43< shadowm> And before you think of adding those cutscene UI themes from everyone's favorite non-canonical piece of trash to use them for those cutscene scenarios, I'd rather see new functionality added to [theme] to hide the sidebar and pass parameters to it in a scenario.
20150125 06:40:12< shadowm> Not that that's going to happen any time soon.
20150125 06:42:39< vultraz> Yeah, well I kinda dislike adding crap to obsolete crud, but I guess it's sticking around, since GUI2 will never be finished and GUIQt won't anytime soon either
20150125 06:46:32< shadowm> If half of the theme UI implementation wasn't embedded in the main render code, I would be more tempted to try my hand at adding features to it or even writing a new one.
20150125 06:46:36< aquileia> vultraz: Could you try my PR before one of us merges, though? I went through every single speaker, but it'd be nice to be completely sure
20150125 06:48:13< vultraz> aquileia: well, just looking a the diffs, where did the lines such as https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/372/files#diff-a7e03b38fbe2cf69bb3a8648988b2765L140 go?
20150125 06:48:37< vultraz> oh, I see
20150125 06:48:39< vultraz> here https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/372/files#diff-a7e03b38fbe2cf69bb3a8648988b2765R161
20150125 06:49:20< vultraz> shadowm: what I never understood was why gui2 was implemented to freeze everything else
20150125 06:49:45< aquileia> I still didn't merge all duplicates, but it's a start (especially if you want to redo it anyhow)
20150125 06:51:11< vultraz> I'll definitely redo these in [message]s
20150125 06:51:23< aquileia> Especially as you can just change the macro now and port them all at once!
20150125 06:53:15< aquileia> You'll probably need a few cutscenes as the maps have to pop up after the conversation in several cases
20150125 06:54:19< vultraz> All of NR is going to be a PITA to deal with anyway
20150125 06:54:21< vultraz> :P
20150125 06:54:32< aquileia> have fun!
20150125 06:57:24< aquileia> Oh, and to make that clear - I didn't edit the orphan branch 5b ... 9b as it probably will never again be accessible
20150125 06:59:47< vultraz> there's a branch?
20150125 07:00:24< aquileia> evil Tallin: Be Malifor's general!
20150125 07:01:28< vultraz> Seems a shame to have such a thing go to waste
20150125 07:01:35< vultraz> I'll look into it, though
20150125 07:01:47< vultraz> Congrats on push access, BTW
20150125 07:02:36< aquileia> thanks! you'll have less work now
20150125 07:05:03< aquileia> vultraz: Seems the last commit oher than syntax updates on that branch was 1.3.9 by taurus himself
20150125 07:07:23< vultraz> huh
20150125 07:07:24< vultraz> well then
20150125 07:08:03< aquileia> I'm off
20150125 07:08:10< vultraz> I think I'll do some quick formatting updates on AOI this evening, and then get to NR, so I'm just going to marge your PR. If I find any issues I'll fix them in production
20150125 07:08:20< vultraz> If that's alright
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20150125 07:47:58< irker619> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 665e944c9c14 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/11_The_Court_of_Karrag.cfg: THoT S11: don't give Karrag gold or recruits this scenario http://git.io/9GF-jQ
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20150125 14:24:14< aquileia> vultraz: BTW, most story dialogues are in Knalga - and we already have a map of the throne room: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/maps/02_Reclaiming_the_Past.map
20150125 14:27:23< aquileia> It would be in the process of renovation during NR, so you might want to omit the braziers for NR, but it's the same place
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20150125 14:28:25< aquileia> zookeeper: About wesnoth/resources and aquileia/wesnoth-resources - do you still want to keep them separate?
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20150125 14:36:17< zookeeper> aquileia, i don't recall what you had in yours, so hard to say :p
20150125 14:38:22< aquileia> zookeeper: Mine mostly contains unfinished work - story screens that were intended as a set, baseframes without animations or only blocked animations
20150125 14:40:34< aquileia> Some of it IMHO already would be better than mainline content in it's current state (especially the unique lich base frames)
20150125 14:40:35< zookeeper> separate, in that case. i'm not sure if it's true atm, but if you ask me then i think wesnoth/resources should only be for stuff already in mainline; working files, lossless copies, etc
20150125 14:42:50< aquileia> well, currently it's a mixture between working files ect. and wesnoth/attic - old files we'll never need again, but keep there
20150125 14:46:20< aquileia> zookeeper: https://github.com/aquileia/wesnoth-resources/tree/master/units/tRoW and https://github.com/aquileia/wesnoth-resources/blob/master/units/Mal-Ravanal.png are those that would merit inclusion, I think
20150125 14:47:31< zookeeper> well, if you want to create a "WIP stuff intended for mainline" dir in resources then i guess i don't have anything against that
20150125 14:47:38< aquileia> dionli is a dialogue only character, and the portraits of the two liches are too unique to depict them as a standard ancient lich
20150125 14:47:49< zookeeper> on a related note, dionli could go in right now, looks finished enough to me¨
20150125 14:48:28< aquileia> well, I meant all of them as ready for mainline...
20150125 14:48:42< aquileia> s/all/all three
20150125 14:49:05< zookeeper> they're unanimated
20150125 14:49:41< zookeeper> if you ask me, i'll always be against replacing animated sprites in favor of unanimated ones (unless the animated one is _really_ bad, as has certainly been the case many times in the past)
20150125 14:49:46< aquileia> Well, so is the cavalry and khalifate
20150125 14:49:55< zookeeper> yes they are
20150125 14:51:51< aquileia> I'm all for animated sprites as well, but the ancient lich isn't especially high quality (although recently improved, I think) and these two characters really look totally different from that sprite
20150125 14:53:25< aquileia> but if you want to keep it as is, fine
20150125 14:53:40< aquileia> should I wire dionli in, though?
20150125 14:53:49< zookeeper> sure, she doesn't need any animations
20150125 14:54:31< zookeeper> and since she only appears in cutscenes anyway, even a floating/sparkling/whatever standing anim would largely be wasted, so... no anims at all needed, i believe
20150125 14:55:39< aquileia> Well, I'll look whether the shyde halo looks ok on her while being static
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20150125 15:09:24< aquileia> hmm... the NR S8 route bypassing S9 and going dorectly to S10 isn't really sensible
20150125 15:10:04< aquileia> why wouldn't you encounter the trolls? And why do you still remark on them?
20150125 15:18:15< vultraz> aquileia: Yes, shadowm recently redid the Ancient Lunch. Much better than before
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20150125 15:18:57< aquileia> tastier? =p
20150125 15:20:38< vultraz> Lich 
20150125 15:20:40< vultraz> >_>
20150125 15:21:14< aquileia> definitely a huge improvement, it's just that it doesn't fit the portraits of these two villains at all: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/images/portraits/jevyan.png and https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/images/portraits/mal-ravanal.png
20150125 15:21:42< aquileia> jevyan is half serpent, mal ravanal half ghost
20150125 15:24:42< vultraz> definitely like the ravanal sprite
20150125 15:26:14< aquileia> well, I like pretty much all of sleepwalker's work
20150125 15:26:25< aquileia> if they only had animations
20150125 15:27:51< aquileia> Let's hope amorphous animates a few of his loyalists
20150125 15:28:37< vultraz> sleepwalker, zerovirus, shadowm, Jetrel, and lordbob are probably our best artists. too bad we don't have more
20150125 15:29:41< aquileia> vultraz: BTW, that low swing in his attack gives you a free north attack animation
20150125 15:30:03< aquileia> Or do you think it's too much even for that?
20150125 15:30:38< vultraz> hm
20150125 15:30:51< vultraz> well if it were facing north it might be evident. I'm not sure
20150125 15:32:30< aquileia> Cavalry needs pure N & S animations, most other units are fine with NE N and SE S being the only two sets
20150125 15:33:22< vultraz> you'd have to consult Jetrel on this one
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20150125 15:33:37< vultraz> I really couldn't say
20150125 15:33:58< aquileia> Jetrel: ^
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20150125 15:35:08< aquileia> Jetrel: BTW, your input would be much appreciated in that thread I think, after all you and sleepwalker designed those base frames together
20150125 15:37:06< vultraz> Jetrel: thread in question http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=41517
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20150125 16:06:41< vultraz> ah, my second attempt at redoing the Karrag throne room is much better
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20150125 16:16:10 * vultraz facepalms
20150125 16:16:13< vultraz> I just noticed
20150125 16:16:27< vultraz> these underground cutscene scenarios use the default schedule :(
20150125 16:16:38< vultraz> oh, ok, just the epilogue
20150125 16:16:43< vultraz> *eyeroll*
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20150125 16:27:48< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master df53a1817275 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/utils/bigmap.cfg: Fixed indent http://git.io/uysCtg
20150125 16:27:49< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 72df8756aed0 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/ (4 files in 2 dirs): THoT: redraw Karrag's throne room http://git.io/6Jb4XA
20150125 16:27:50< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 67234342bdb2 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/13_Epilogue.cfg: THoT S13: use underground ToD for the epilogue http://git.io/tz2pmA
20150125 16:27:52< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 1ac61672b653 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/ (02_Reclaiming_the_Past.cfg 13_Epilogue.cfg): THoT: lock view during cutscenes http://git.io/KVBWzg
20150125 16:27:55< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 3e1591021589 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/13_Epilogue.cfg: THoT S13: doubled delay before Pelias's entry http://git.io/boiCAw
20150125 16:28:22< vultraz> zookeeper: you might want to check out that throne room redraw, just see what you think
20150125 16:33:56< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master d02f00fe4553 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/11_The_Court_of_Karrag.cfg: THoT S11: don't specify gold or recruits for side 1 either http://git.io/P1dDJQ
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20150125 16:40:28< gfgtdf> vultraz: why did you remove the gold= key ?
20150125 16:40:48< vultraz> because you're not supposed to recruit in that scenario anyway
20150125 16:41:27< gfgtdf> vultraz: do it doesnt matter how muchz dolg you have ?
20150125 16:41:40< vultraz> eh?
20150125 16:43:04< gfgtdf> vultraz: gold defaults to 100 according to the wiki (i wonder why?). If you want 100 starting godl i would rather make gold=100 explicitly than relying on that
20150125 16:43:45< vultraz> it really doesn't matter, since your gold is set again in the next scenario anyway
20150125 16:44:17< gfgtdf> hm ok
20150125 16:45:23< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 5c09c682901c / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/11_The_Court_of_Karrag.cfg: THoT S11: don't do the mage recruit check in this scenario http://git.io/bh3x8w
20150125 16:47:32< vultraz> still, I feel I could do something more elegant about disabling recruits and recalls in that scenario
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20150125 16:47:59< vultraz> right now, there's just no gold or recruits specified for either side, but side 1 gets carryover. there are, however, no keeps in range
20150125 16:48:50< vultraz> *shrug* I'll deal with it some other time
20150125 16:49:06< ancestral> shadowm: mattsc “built” (generated? produced? converted? prepared?) translations for me. I’m going to take his and test it out. 
20150125 16:49:23< ancestral> Meanwhile, he is starting a build, so between the two of us we should have something done tonight
20150125 16:55:21< ancestral> (I had no delusions that this first time would be rocky.)
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20150125 16:57:42< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 0440b0dcda70 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/utils/macros.cfg: THoT: simplify filtering for the sorf object http://git.io/uFLnpA
20150125 17:01:35< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master c8af074e8547 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/utils/macros.cfg: THoT: simplify mage recruiting toggle http://git.io/G1Hizg
20150125 17:01:40 * vultraz out
20150125 17:02:59< aquileia> shadowm: What happens if I rearrange and delete translatable strings - which tool would I have to run to check everything abides to the string freeze? A pot-update for one language?
20150125 17:03:04< irker579> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 5b83fb37e121 / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/utils/macros.cfg: THoT: fixup c8af074e8547, forgot to remove a clear variable statement http://git.io/k-t2qw
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20150125 17:07:14< shadowm> aquileia: A pot-update and diff on the involved textdomain pots.
20150125 17:07:58< aquileia> Then I'll switch over to my ubuntu installation and try that, thanks
20150125 17:08:36< shadowm> It's easier to just make sure you are not 1) moving strings between textdomains; 2) altering existing strings (unless they are typo fixes, then someone has to update and run pofix accordingly or make note of the changes if pofix can't be used); 3) adding new strings.
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20150125 17:09:18< shadowm> Also, 1.12 is still string-frozen in case someone finds a serious bug before announcing.
20150125 17:11:46< aquileia> Well, I made sure of all of that, but safety first, I think
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20150125 17:31:30< mattsc> ancestral: hi
20150125 17:31:35< ancestral> Oh hey
20150125 17:31:56< mattsc> I’ll only be able to be around for ~10 minutes right now, but I have the DMG ready, just in case.
20150125 17:32:20< ancestral> Aha
20150125 17:32:22< mattsc> How are things going on your side?
20150125 17:32:31< ancestral> Good, I was about to download your translations
20150125 17:33:20< ancestral> What might work well this time, if it’s okay with you, is to take what you have for release, but I can finish my build and compare it with yours
20150125 17:33:34< ancestral> And then moving on I should be in good shape
20150125 17:34:02< ancestral> (Perhaps another time, between now and the next release, I can share with you the issue I had with translations)
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20150125 17:34:23< mattsc> Sure, that sounds like a good plan.
20150125 17:34:38< ancestral> Great!
20150125 17:35:00< ancestral> I’m sorry I couldn’t get this one done smoothly
20150125 17:35:12< mattsc> There always seems to be some problem when doing something like that for the first time.  And somehow it’s never what I expect it to be.  :)
20150125 17:35:28< ancestral> Yeah
20150125 17:35:38< mattsc> No worries, that’s how these things go.
20150125 17:35:51< mattsc> I’ll start the upload then.
20150125 17:35:54< ancestral> Okay
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20150125 17:36:19< ancestral> I think shadowm mentioend you’re not listed in an about file?
20150125 17:36:32< mattsc> I’m sorry that I wasn’t around at all yesterday, but not much I can do on while I’m traveling.
20150125 17:36:35 * ancestral forgot the specifics
20150125 17:36:44< ancestral> Oh no trouble at all!
20150125 17:36:51< ancestral> I fully planned on it
20150125 17:37:05< mattsc> Yeah, I saw that.  I’m in the file for my AI work.  I guess I never paid attention to there being a packager section.  :P
20150125 17:41:33< ancestral> I was missing a few files, like SDLMain.m (or something) and pango.modules
20150125 17:42:26< ancestral> I ended up re-downloading SDL for 10.4+ and taking that file, and pango.modules I ended up copying from the last release…
20150125 17:43:01< mattsc> Hmm, strange…  Sometime next week we should have a look at why those were missing.
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20150125 17:43:17< ancestral> Also, I think I was missing the Info.plist (maybe that’s intentional, however)
20150125 17:43:38< ancestral> (I ended up copying the one from the last release and modifying the version number)
20150125 17:44:07< ancestral> But otherwise I did get a successful build, aside from an immediate crash which I assume is from the missing translations folder?
20150125 17:44:28< ancestral> Although, maybe Wesnoth should launch even without it?
20150125 17:44:50< ancestral> Shucks, yeah
20150125 17:45:15< ancestral> Somehow I think my frameworks aren’t right
20150125 17:45:18< mattsc> No, it should run just fine without the translations.
20150125 17:45:21< ancestral> Right
20150125 17:45:30< ancestral> Anyway, we’ll talk again when we both have time :)
20150125 17:45:34< ancestral> Thanks for your help
20150125 17:45:38< mattsc> Right.
20150125 17:45:41< mattsc> No problems.
20150125 17:45:42< ancestral> And again, sorry I couldn’t put this one together
20150125 17:46:31< mattsc> No need to apologize, thanks for doing this.  It’s always a bit bumpy at the beginning.
20150125 17:47:00< mattsc> I’m just waiting for the upload to finish and then I’ll be off.
20150125 17:47:48< mattsc> ETA is jumping up and down between anywhere from 4 to 20 minutes.  :P
20150125 17:48:56< ancestral> I have a full work shift today in 12 minutes
20150125 17:49:13< ancestral> (Well, it’s a 6-hour shift since I had a two-hour meeting earlier)
20150125 17:49:28< ancestral> (Yay for working on the weekend)
20150125 17:49:39< mattsc> yeah ...
20150125 17:49:41< ancestral> </sarcasm>
20150125 17:49:43< mattsc> :)
20150125 17:49:56< mattsc> I’ll talk to you later then.
20150125 17:50:02< ancestral> Cool thanks
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20150125 17:57:55< mattsc> ancestral, shadowm: the OS X package is up on SF.
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20150125 18:12:31< shadowm> mattsc: I don't know how you managed to find the time to build it while traveling, but great!
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20150125 18:24:16< shadowm> vultraz: Did you review the announcement draft?
20150125 18:28:49< shadowm> Last edited: now.
20150125 18:29:28< shadowm> I'm announcing at 22:00 UTC.
20150125 18:29:51< shadowm> That's 3:30 hours from now.
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20150125 20:47:06< vultraz> shadowm: looks fine, except I would personally just say 'Players' instead of 'Existing players'
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20150125 21:36:14< irker789> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master b297831eeb90 / data/lua/wml-tags.lua: Allow [disallow_recruit] to disable the whole recruit list of a side if passed w http://git.io/4HKpXA
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20150125 21:53:04 * shadowm glares at zookeeper.
20150125 21:54:40< zookeeper> huh?
20150125 21:55:15< shadowm> #23059, #23054, #23053, #23048 are missing changelog entries.
20150125 21:58:07< zookeeper> eh, i guess 53 and 54 would warrant entries
20150125 21:58:14< zookeeper> how many minutes do i have?
20150125 21:58:52< zookeeper> exactly 0 by your last count, it seems
20150125 21:58:56< shadowm> You have minus something days.
20150125 21:59:26< shadowm> 1.12.1 was tagged on Friday -- you can still edit the changelog after the fact, but the revised version won't be linked from the announcements.
20150125 21:59:59< shadowm> I guess I'll quickly write something for the Miscellaneous section of the announcement proper.
20150125 22:00:03< zookeeper> oh, right
20150125 22:00:21< zookeeper> well those are all pretty minor issues, surely not worth a mention in the announcement
20150125 22:00:34< zookeeper> unless you really need more of _anything_ to mention there :P
20150125 22:00:45< shadowm> I don't know, one of the bug says something about a terrain *line* being generated by a [terrain] command.
20150125 22:00:58< zookeeper> just a visual
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20150125 22:11:09< shadowm> gfgtdf: Do you know if https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16075 is present/fixed in 1.12?
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20150125 23:07:30< gfgtdf> shadowm: im not sure, but i'd say no.
20150125 23:08:24< shadowm> Not present, or not fixed?
20150125 23:09:29< gfgtdf> shadowm: not fixed, so i'd assume it is present athough i did not test it.
20150125 23:10:53< shadowm> Since the bug predates 1.11.10, perhaps you could look into it and see whether it needs backporting to 1.12?
20150125 23:14:28< gfgtdf> shadowm: the code (playcampaign.cpp) has changed quiet a bit between 1.12 and 1.10 so i think backporting is not that easy
20150125 23:15:03< shadowm> Your PR was merged to master (1.13.0-dev), though.
20150125 23:15:42< gfgtdf> ah yes i meant 1.13 and 1.12
20150125 23:16:11< shadowm> Hm, okay. :\
20150125 23:25:42< gfgtdf> shadowm: i just tested an i could not reproduce teh bug in 1.12 with the attached scenario
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20150125 23:27:27< shadowm> Hm?
20150125 23:28:04< gfgtdf> shadowm: the scenario attached i teh bug report
20150125 23:28:07< gfgtdf> in the*
20150125 23:29:27< shadowm> Yes, but that sounds odd.
20150125 23:31:14< shadowm> The bug was posted after 1.8.0 was released, so it's odd that it would be fixed at some point leading up to 1.12.1+dev and resurface in 1.13.0-dev somehow.
20150125 23:33:38< gfgtdf> shadowm: idk, maybe i fixed some other bug related to next_scenario and then tested that bug16075didn
20150125 23:33:47< gfgtdf> 't appear so i asusmed to hve fixed it
20150125 23:34:08< gfgtdf> i actually don't know anymore.
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20150125 23:41:38< shadowm> vultraz: Also, if you need Wesnoth 1.12.1's wesnoth executable: http://files.wesnoth.org/shadowm/wesnoth-1.12.1-wesnoth.exe.xz
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20150125 23:47:53< shadowm> Now that I know how to unpack loonycyborg's releases on Linux without getting Wine involved, I'm sorely tempted to figure out how to create incremental upgrade packages.
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