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20150111 14:08:58< patwotrik> I got an idea.
20150111 14:09:30< patwotrik> Would it be very hard to instead of restricting the choice of server to restrict to game 
20150111 14:09:40< patwotrik> About version of wesnoth
20150111 14:10:20< patwotrik> So that everybody joins same server, but you can get a message like "To join this you need Wesnoth 1.12 or better"
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20150111 14:57:01< zookeeper> patwotrik, maybe if we could be sure that the way the game communicates with the server is never going to change or that any changes can be backwards-compatible.
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20150111 15:51:46< patwotrik> zookeeper, One solution could be to just allow the game to switch the way it communicates depending on the game it joins
20150111 15:54:34< patwotrik> but of course that could lead to bloated code...
20150111 15:54:53< patwotrik> which in general is a very bad thing in open source projects
20150111 15:58:33< zookeeper> it must communicate before joining a game for the lobby to work
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20150111 16:55:11< Molt> Sorry to bother: I'm working on my first map ever. Been reading the various WML pages - especially about Music and stuff - but I still have questions about using custom music in my multiplayer scenario. Can anyone help me for a moment?
20150111 16:55:25< zookeeper> (yes, this channel would be more appropriate)
20150111 16:55:43< Molt> thanks zookeeper
20150111 16:55:45< zookeeper> ask away
20150111 16:58:03< Molt> okay, so I have a set of songs. 1 i want to be played once when the map first opens. another I want to play right after that (and only once). then a few that play in a playlist throughout the game. one I want to play on a certain turn (when the game is getting close to being over). then one I want to play on defeat.
20150111 16:59:18< Molt> i'm not sure if my code is correct. For example, tis is what I am using for the song that should play when the map first opens:
20150111 16:59:20< Molt> [music]
20150111 16:59:20< Molt>     name=FromHere.ogg
20150111 16:59:21< Molt> 	#this song should start when the game is opened and should only be played once.
20150111 16:59:21< Molt> 	play_once=yes
20150111 16:59:21< Molt> [/music]
20150111 17:02:54< zookeeper> hrhm
20150111 17:04:12< zookeeper> well, firstly you can use the standard {SCENARIO_MUSIC whatever.ogg} to set the initial track
20150111 17:04:53< zookeeper> "another I want to play right after that (and only once)" <- that however you can't do right now, i believe
20150111 17:06:18< zookeeper> basically, right now you can't change the playlist without also stopping the current track... that's supposed to get fixed in the next release though
20150111 17:06:39< Molt> i probably could by making an event and then use immidiate=yes
20150111 17:07:38< zookeeper> sure, you can do that but it'll interrupt the current track then
20150111 17:08:10< Molt> got ya
20150111 17:08:40< zookeeper> of course, you can make it a two-track playlist where the initial track plays once and then the other track will play after it... but then it'll probably switch back to the first track again after that
20150111 17:09:15< zookeeper> ...but maybe you could add the second track to the playlist like a hundred times, so it'd be really unlikely that the initial track would be picked again
20150111 17:09:17< Molt> guess i should scrap that and just play a song at the opening (once), change the entire playlist, play a track when things are going badly (at a predefined turn) and play another track on defeat
20150111 17:09:37< zookeeper> oh, wait... i guess i wasn't thinking right
20150111 17:10:02< zookeeper> you can of course make the scenario playlist consist of only the second track, and then in start/prestart switch to the "initial" track with play_once=yes
20150111 17:10:07< zookeeper> that should work
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20150111 17:11:38< Molt> good idea, but the playlist I want consists of 3 tracks :(
20150111 17:12:04< Molt> i'll just scrap the idea of track 2 playing only once
20150111 17:12:31< zookeeper> well, you can append to the playlist in a very early event, i guess
20150111 17:12:50< zookeeper> but yes, the music system isn't very suited for complicated stuff like that
20150111 17:12:54< Molt> ahh.. that makes sense
20150111 17:13:21< Molt> is there a way to remove a track from the playlist?
20150111 17:13:24< Molt> probably not
20150111 17:13:26< Molt> :)
20150111 17:13:34< zookeeper> one of the biggest problems being that we can't change the current track with a nice crossfade, but rather it's always an abrupt hard cut... if we had crossfading, you could change the current track whenever you want
20150111 17:13:36< zookeeper> nope
20150111 17:13:50< zookeeper> you can only re-define the whole playlist, or append to the current playlist
20150111 17:13:57< Molt> ahhh
20150111 17:14:04< Molt> re-defining works!
20150111 17:14:22< zookeeper> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/MusicListWML
20150111 17:16:01< Molt> yeah.. i've been there. trust me :)
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20150111 17:18:41< Molt> my syntax looks good. 
20150111 17:19:44< Molt> where do the tracks go? in the main music folder for wesnoth or in a folder called 'music' in the same path as my addon? i've always found this confusing with wesnoth (paths for addon stuff)
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20150111 17:26:45< zookeeper> well if you're making an add-on then they go to your add-on's music dir
20150111 17:27:26< zookeeper> just make sure you have a [binary_path] pointing to your add-on dir (imitate any add-on with images/music/sounds)
20150111 17:29:25< Molt> cool. yeah, the final goal is to make a packaged addon that just comes with the music
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20150111 18:26:45< patwotrik> One thing that would be really good, and probably not to difficult to implement and maintain is one button above "End Scenario" that would mean "Replay/create new with same settings"
20150111 18:27:59< Ravana_> would that give anything new? settings are saved anyways
20150111 18:31:03< patwotrik> Ok, really good is maybe a bit exaggerating, but it would save all those dialogues. And the name of the game is not saved.
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20150111 22:45:04< gavenkoa> Hi! I try to extract string for translation with xgettext. As there are no WML language I try all in docs and Perl, Lua, Vala seems correctly extract.
20150111 22:45:12< gavenkoa> xgettext --output=- --language=Vala  scenarios/01_Parents.cfg
20150111 22:46:00< gavenkoa> I try data/tools/wmlxgettext but it warns and recomment use utils/wmlxgettext which is not installed with wesnoth-1.12-tools
20150111 22:46:32< gavenkoa> how prepare translation for own made campain?
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