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20150217 12:51:32< aquileia> I just noticed - heals +8 : This unit combines herbal remedies with magic
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20150217 12:52:39< aquileia> Now that the Tabib from the khalifate faction has it, the 'magical' doesn't really apply, does it? Or is their medicine that advanced that it in fact uses magic without them knowing?
20150217 12:54:16 * vultraz has no idea
20150217 12:55:25< aquileia> I mean they hate any form of magic, but currently we attribute it to one of their units
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20150217 12:57:35< irker943> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 6c5fb03f65f7 / data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/scenarios/04_Clearing_the_Mines.cfg: NR S4: dropped turn limit by 10 http://git.io/NNG7
20150217 13:00:28< vultraz> I think I'm done with the S5a map redraw
20150217 13:00:41< vultraz> It's drastic, but I think it'll keep the same general feel
20150217 13:04:28< vultraz> Without the crawling though 1 hex passages and 100 draugs, ofc
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20150217 14:50:11< aquileia> Elvish_Hunter: In 446a6a0ca you commented there'd be no WML changes, but ellipse="misc/ellipse-nozoc" no longer works (it'll try to append -nozoc again)
20150217 14:51:19< aquileia> Do I assume correctly that UMC authors are required to #ifver that line?
20150217 14:52:37< vultraz> I think you're supposed to stop using -nozoc
20150217 14:53:39< aquileia> Ok, then I'll mek it dependent on the version number (we try to keep the campaign backward compatible)
20150217 14:53:59< vultraz> wasn't that a 1.11 change?
20150217 14:54:08< vultraz> 1.12 isn't supposed to be compatible with 1.10
20150217 14:55:17< aquileia> yeah, but campaigns might try to be nonetheless
20150217 14:55:59< vultraz> not much point, IMO
20150217 14:56:19< vultraz> 1.12 simply has so many new features that not making use of them is a great detriment to the quality of your UMC
20150217 14:57:06< aquileia> you won't believe how many ifver we already have for these features ;)
20150217 14:57:58< vultraz> heh
20150217 14:58:11< vultraz> I personally dropped 1.10 support wayyy back when 1.11.2 came out
20150217 15:00:00< aquileia> e.g. I created a map track for the old wesnoth map for versions before the bigmap wasn't there
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20150217 16:43:30< aquileia> All those [portrait] tags with size=400 spread over mainline - do they actually do anything?
20150217 16:44:21< aquileia> It seems if you don't have them, it'll still pick the transparent version of the profile picture
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20150217 16:46:26< vultraz> they don't, I don't think so
20150217 16:46:38< vultraz> as long as profile= is set, it doesn't matter
20150217 16:49:53< vultraz> IIRC zookeeper said they were part of an experiemntal gui2 thing
20150217 16:49:56< vultraz> IMHO they should be removed
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20150217 16:50:30< aquileia> In that case, I'd definitely agree
20150217 16:50:49< zookeeper> yeah i've understood that they do nothing currently, so they could certainly be removed
20150217 16:51:33< aquileia> zookeeper: Whose gui2 feature would have used them, BTW?
20150217 16:51:38< aquileia> mordante?
20150217 16:51:50< zookeeper> yes
20150217 16:53:39< zookeeper> we discussed it already just a few months ago, though
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20150217 16:58:06< zookeeper> (in http://www.wesnoth.org/irclogs/2014/12/%23wesnoth-dev.2014-12-29.log to be precise)
20150217 17:06:02< aquileia> I'm curious for what reason we'd have to provide the standard size=400 portraits though; the feature should fall back to that exact version anyhow if none are provided, I think
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20150217 17:06:43< gfgtdf> zookeeper: how did you find that date of the discussion so fast ?
20150217 17:07:23< aquileia> larger portraits, no mirroring (like kitty asked for for some of her portraits), ect. - sure, but these are rare
20150217 17:09:54< zookeeper> gfgtdf, i searched my own logs for "[portrait]". and actually it took like 10x longer because i got confused with the timestamps :p
20150217 17:10:28< gfgtdf> zookeeper: your own = the logs of your irc client ?
20150217 17:10:31< zookeeper> yes
20150217 17:11:58< zookeeper> i've logged everything since... 2002, it seems
20150217 17:13:04< gfgtdf> zookeeper: so you know more that the http://www.wesnoth.org/irclogs
20150217 17:13:30< zookeeper> gfgtdf, well, i'm not online all the time so in some cases yes, some cases no
20150217 17:30:19< AI0867> vultraz: src/unit_types.cpp
20150217 17:30:19< AI0867> 225:    BOOST_FOREACH(const config &portrait, cfg_.child_range("portrait")) {
20150217 17:30:31< AI0867> looks like they're used in the help
20150217 17:33:21< gfgtdf> AI0867: how can you see that from that line ?
20150217 17:38:52< AI0867> child_range iterates over tags, not keys?
20150217 17:39:28< AI0867> and I did open the file to see the next line =+P
20150217 17:39:30< gfgtdf> AI0867: yes but how is that related to teh help
20150217 17:39:33< AI0867> s/=+/=
20150217 17:40:23< gfgtdf> AI0867: i dont think portraits_ is ever read.
20150217 17:40:28< AI0867> hmm
20150217 17:40:40< AI0867> yes, the location caused me to make a bad assumption
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