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20150202 02:50:01< patwotrik> Just reported my first bug :)
20150202 02:50:27< patwotrik> I do hope I did not report a bug that's already reported
20150202 02:50:45< patwotrik> It's bug #23235 if anyone is interested
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20150202 07:25:06< Tonepoet> I feel crappy.
20150202 07:25:21< Tonepoet> I just had a -41% inflicted game in my favor.
20150202 07:25:32< Tonepoet> I don't even know how that happens.
20150202 07:26:24< Tonepoet> Well, I guess that means -41% taken but still.
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20150202 13:44:37< patwotrik> Tonepoet, in one turn or the whole game?
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20150202 15:06:14< Tonepoet> The whole game Patwotrik. If it was one turn it'd be unremarkable.
20150202 15:07:00< Tonepoet> The other thing about it is that the other stat was even.
20150202 15:07:07< Tonepoet> So it was a flat 41% advantage.
20150202 15:10:44< Tonepoet> Now I've had 40% differentials before but never all-in-one stat. I suppose it may've been an inevitable fluke after playing enough games but it still feels rather illegitimate.
20150202 15:29:18< patwotrik> Well, it's very unlikely to win the jackpot at a lottery, but people do it every day.
20150202 15:32:36< DeFender1031> Yeah, probabilities are weird. I've had times where, for example, I had a 70% defense attacking a 20% defense and missed all 4 times, while the enemy hit all 4 times. Not probable, but the probability of seeing such a thing happen increase the more times you try it.
20150202 15:32:47< Tonepoet> I think there are more games everyday than I'd played in the 10 or so years I've known about this game. XD
20150202 15:34:05< zookeeper> i wonder what is the longest streak of misses of magical attacks in a row that anyone has ever encountered
20150202 15:34:29< zookeeper> ...and what their face looked like!
20150202 15:34:48< Tonepoet> I know Myth missed 9 in a row once.
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20150202 15:35:16< zookeeper> well, even that's just 3 mages in a row
20150202 15:35:57< zookeeper> unless you mean 9 mages
20150202 15:36:03< Tonepoet> Three Augurs. I think he may've only needed one hit too but I don't remember that specifically. I do remember it was on Isar's cross though.
20150202 15:36:08< DeFender1031> zookeeper, maybe the next version should have a record-tracker built in for questions like that... ;)
20150202 15:36:48< DeFender1031> or like "least battles fought by a unit before death" (though, that would be one, with a damn level 4 yeti at the damn cliffs of damn thoria)
20150202 15:37:29< zookeeper> instadeath isn't uncommon indeed
20150202 15:37:34< DeFender1031> seriously, whose idea were these OP yetis?
20150202 15:38:31< Tonepoet> Some campaign designer's. Factional balance isn't a concern with campaigns, just the setting. It does seem somewhat odd that a Yeti is so much stronger than even the greatest of trolls though...
20150202 15:41:32< Tonepoet> I mean in terms of raw attack power, there's a huge difference between 18-3 with a hammer and 32-2 with a fist.
20150202 15:41:41< DeFender1031> also annoying that Cleodil says "spare it if you can". Uh, no, I F-ing CAN'T spare it, or it'll kill everyone in one swipe.
20150202 15:41:55< DeFender1031> 33-2.
20150202 15:42:16< Tonepoet> Did it get buffed?
20150202 15:42:44< DeFender1031> dunno, but i'm looking right at it (wishing i weren't) and it's 33-2.
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20150202 15:47:02< Tonepoet> In 1.0 it was 32-2 so it must've been buffed.
20150202 15:47:07< Tonepoet> Which is amazing.
20150202 15:47:28< Tonepoet> http://zapicm.freeshell.org/1_02/tree_monster.html Well, unless yours is a "strong" yeti anyway.
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20150202 16:02:01< DeFender1031> seems like all three are simply hard-coded to be resilient and strong
20150202 16:02:13< DeFender1031> either that, or it's another one of those probability things.
20150202 16:02:29< DeFender1031> but all three share the same trait
20150202 16:04:50< Tonepoet> I wonder if it's so O.P. to demonstrate what a Res./Strong yeti should be considered like, since Strong is a fixed damage trait.
20150202 16:07:50< DeFender1031> i'm not sure what you mean
20150202 16:08:33< Tonepoet> The traits, from a storyline perspective, are supposed to demonstrate how a particular unit's talents deviate from the rest of its kind.
20150202 16:09:39< Tonepoet> A difference of 1 in 32 isn't particularly remarkable when compared to a difference of 1 in 5 for say, the Elvish Fighter.
20150202 16:10:49< Tonepoet> A "strong" yeti, should probably have closer to 4 extra damage per strike, logically and if all of the yetis in their primary campaign are intended tobe strong....
20150202 16:11:06< DeFender1031> hmm
20150202 16:11:21< DeFender1031> i guess my point was just that the yetis are OP in general.
20150202 16:11:42< Tonepoet> Yeah, they are. I'm just thinking as to why.
20150202 16:12:21< DeFender1031> anyway, (i think) i found a way to avoid them entirely by avoiding the area where their entrance gets triggered.
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20150202 16:19:10< Tonepoet> Information yer army shouldn't logically possess. XP
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20150202 16:29:38< Tonepoet> Oh well, hi Noy.
20150202 16:31:47< noy> hello
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20150202 16:33:12< Tonepoet> How've you been since I saw you last, however many years ago? Are you still doing gov't research?
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20150202 16:37:24< Molt> hey ya'll
20150202 16:38:06< Molt> i'm having some trouble increasing the max strikes for a unit I'm spawning. Can anyone help? Here is the code I am using: http://paste.ee/p/nxAOM   The extra strike is not being added 
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20150202 16:40:15< DeFender1031> Tonepoet, true, but the scenario designer should have made the yeti triggering turn-based rather than location-based if they wanted people to not avoid them (that, or have a line all the way across the board which will trigger the yetis if crossed, rather than a small area)
20150202 16:41:59< Tonepoet> That's true I suppose. I wonder what's special about that particular area...
20150202 16:43:01< zookeeper> Molt, [effect] always needs an apply_to=
20150202 16:44:10< Molt> zookeeper: ahh. and I am assuming apply_to="id of unit" ?
20150202 16:44:24< zookeeper> no
20150202 16:44:37< zookeeper> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/EffectWML -> apply_to=attack
20150202 16:45:39< Molt> gotcha. thanks!
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20150202 21:47:42< Molt> how would i find what the x,y coordinates are for the leaders of both human players?
20150202 21:51:56< zookeeper> store the units
20150202 21:52:39< Molt> that makes sense
20150202 21:52:48< Molt> k
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20150202 22:14:02< vultraz> Molt: OR [store_locations] [filter] id=
20150202 22:17:41< zookeeper> oh, right, that too
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