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20150301 00:19:07< stikonas> zookeeper: looks like scripting is broken here
20150301 00:21:57< zookeeper> in an way that's obvious if one just plays the scenario for a turn or two?
20150301 00:22:05< zookeeper> if not, then details wouldn't hurt :p
20150301 00:22:21< stikonas> you are supposed to recruit just peasants and mages
20150301 00:22:24< stikonas> like in version 1.10
20150301 00:24:04< stikonas> then you can upgrade homes to universities
20150301 00:24:11< stikonas> mountains to mines...
20150301 00:24:29< stikonas> but it looks like none of that is possible
20150301 00:24:46< zookeeper> you sure you didn't have "use map settings" off or something?
20150301 00:26:14< stikonas> I think it was correct, let me double check
20150301 00:26:31< zookeeper> well, i gotta be going, if it wasn't just that then i'll look at it tomorrow
20150301 00:27:40< stikonas> it works now
20150301 00:27:43< stikonas> strange
20150301 00:27:48< stikonas> I had to uncheck use map settings
20150301 00:27:51< stikonas> and check it again
20150301 00:27:55< stikonas> but it started working...
20150301 00:30:17< zookeeper> well... good, i guess
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20150301 00:33:27< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#422 (master - b288b3e : gfgtdf): The build is still failing.
20150301 00:33:27< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/52583925
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20150301 01:35:15< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#423 (master - 0c61469 : gfgtdf): The build is still failing.
20150301 01:35:15< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/52587172
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20150301 02:22:07< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#424 (master - 36df7eb : gfgtdf): The build was fixed.
20150301 02:22:07< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/52589217
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20150301 02:30:37< gfgtdf> vultraz: 
20150301 02:30:42< gfgtdf> vultraz: tha game wont start
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20150301 02:33:35< vultraz> gfgtdf: say what?
20150301 02:33:52< gfgtdf> vultraz: please fix it fast.
20150301 02:35:05< vultraz> aw shit
20150301 02:35:08< vultraz> sorry
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20150301 02:41:02< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#425 (master - 643582f : gfgtdf): The build is still failing.
20150301 02:41:02< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/52590473
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20150301 02:48:01< iceiceice> does anyone else get "error loading game configuration files" when they try to start the game?
20150301 02:48:09< iceiceice> data/core/editor/help.cfg:243
20150301 02:49:01< gfgtdf> iceiceice: yes
20150301 02:49:08< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i just told vultraz
20150301 02:49:13< iceiceice> oh ok
20150301 02:49:17< iceiceice> i will try to check the logs one sec
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20150301 02:50:15< vultraz> hey iceiceice 
20150301 02:50:24< iceiceice> hey vultraz
20150301 02:50:26< iceiceice> hey gfgtdf
20150301 02:50:31< vultraz> long time no see
20150301 02:50:38< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hi
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20150301 02:50:49< irker717> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 9e8645a068e7 / data/core/editor/help.cfg: Fixup b6b6bc12a664, additional cleanup http://git.io/xctp
20150301 02:51:11< vultraz> iceiceice, gfgtdf ^
20150301 02:51:24< iceiceice> thanks
20150301 02:51:31< iceiceice> i am going to try to fix 23188 now if i can
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20150301 02:57:51< gfgtdf> iceiceice: yes that woudl be nice
20150301 02:59:52< gfgtdf> iceiceice: the easiest is most likeley to add a check for whether the events are initilized before fireing that "capture" event.
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20150301 03:03:52< iceiceice> yes that seems to fix
20150301 03:04:54< vultraz> or why not just initialize events completely before you fire any
20150301 03:05:48< iceiceice> well its chicken and egg a little bit
20150301 03:07:16< iceiceice> all the different data structures mostly need to have pointers between eachother,
20150301 03:07:23< iceiceice> units have pointers to teams
20150301 03:07:28< iceiceice> teams have pointers to units
20150301 03:07:48< iceiceice> game events pump has pointers now just to a gamestate object, and to lua kernel i guess
20150301 03:07:53< iceiceice> lua kernel has pointers back to everything
20150301 03:08:40< iceiceice> if its too complicated then it becomes hard to figure out what is going on, how to copy the state, how to restore the state
20150301 03:08:56< iceiceice> the simplest thing is like, just build the simplest objects first and then put the more complicated layers on top
20150301 03:09:07< iceiceice> so to me that seems like, just make the unit map and the list of teams first
20150301 03:09:18< iceiceice> then add events queue maybe
20150301 03:09:22< iceiceice> then add lua kernel
20150301 03:09:47< iceiceice> the game has always had this "team builder" step
20150301 03:09:58< iceiceice> to break the chicken and egg between units and teams
20150301 03:10:13< iceiceice> so there is team builder phase one, where the teams are built just enough that the units can be built
20150301 03:10:15< iceiceice> then you build the units
20150301 03:10:17< un214> I would have had this solution:
20150301 03:10:19< iceiceice> then you finish building the teams
20150301 03:10:21< un214> teams is an array
20150301 03:10:34< un214> team is just a number in unit (1,2,3) just like in the save file
20150301 03:10:42< un214> guess how you get from unit to team?
20150301 03:11:01< iceiceice> yeah but when you build a unit
20150301 03:11:05< iceiceice> it has to read some stuff from the team object
20150301 03:11:25< iceiceice> so that seems to mean, the team array has to be completely built before you can make any units
20150301 03:11:38< un214> so?
20150301 03:11:47< iceiceice> the team object has sort of the same problem
20150301 03:11:49< un214> [side] comes before [unit]
20150301 03:12:12< iceiceice> this is not difficult issues to solve its just annoying,
20150301 03:12:16< iceiceice> theres cleaner solutions and messier ones
20150301 03:12:51< iceiceice> making it simpler and cleaner is sort of good, except in that it can create annoying segfaults when you change things.
20150301 03:14:06< iceiceice> i dont really like that now we are skipping some capture events that before we would have fired,
20150301 03:14:14< iceiceice> but i dont think anyone will really care too much about it in this case
20150301 03:14:42< iceiceice> i doubt if anyone depended on firing village capture events for the units appearing in [side].
20150301 03:14:54< iceiceice> and anyways they can fix pretty easily
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20150301 03:15:12< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#426 (master - 0ffbea2 : gfgtdf): The build was fixed.
20150301 03:15:12< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/52591702
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20150301 03:16:19< vultraz> iceiceice: but the villages will still be captured, correct?
20150301 03:16:29< iceiceice> yes
20150301 03:16:40< gfgtdf> passed finally
20150301 03:16:42< vultraz> ok, good
20150301 03:16:43< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 9d096bef24a5 / src/hotkey_handler_mp.cpp: remove strange playmp_controller_.stop_network() call http://git.io/xcOL
20150301 03:16:45< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 8b83504b5bcb / src/ (10 files in 3 dirs): remove field replay::skip_ http://git.io/xcOt
20150301 03:16:47< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 180acb077cc2 / src/game_initialization/playcampaign.cpp: don't do auto delete save on defeat in mp campaigns http://git.io/xcOq
20150301 03:16:49< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 107da1f240a4 / src/ (play_controller.cpp playsingle_controller.cpp): refactor play_controller::fire_start http://git.io/xcOm
20150301 03:16:51< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 560a4c9d72f6 / src/ (playsingle_controller.cpp playsingle_controller.hpp): remove 'past_prestart' variable http://git.io/xcOY
20150301 03:16:53< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master bf373658e572 / src/ (play_controller.cpp replay_controller.cpp): store it_is_a_new_turn_ in savefiles http://git.io/xcOO
20150301 03:16:55< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 5ac4fbae91ca / src/ (4 files): refactor play_controller::fire_start http://git.io/xcO3
20150301 03:16:57< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 30e670f5a8ba / src/ (16 files in 4 dirs): refactor end_level_data, end_level_exception and LEVEL_RESULT http://git.io/xcOs
20150301 03:16:59< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master f8b4741b8d61 / src/ (playmp_controller.cpp playmp_controller.hpp playsingle_controller.hpp): remove unneeded send_data call http://git.io/xcOG
20150301 03:17:01< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master b60809e623d8 / src/ (11 files in 3 dirs): don't throw exceptions on :droid, :idle http://git.io/xcOZ
20150301 03:17:11 * vultraz whistles
20150301 03:19:53< vultraz> ohh yes, I almost forgot
20150301 03:20:12< vultraz> iceiceice: I was having trouble compiling with png support, wondering if you could help
20150301 03:20:44< iceiceice> hmmm
20150301 03:20:56< iceiceice> i think maybe you need to add a preprocessor define ?
20150301 03:22:28< vultraz> i grabbed a copy of libpng, included it in the linker (-lpng) and it builds, but still saves screenshots as bmp
20150301 03:23:00< iceiceice> yeah
20150301 03:23:04< iceiceice> so theres this line in scons now:
20150301 03:23:05< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/SConstruct#L426
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20150301 03:23:45< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#5838 (master - 9e8645a : Charles Dang): The build was fixed.
20150301 03:23:45< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/52591974
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20150301 03:24:41< iceiceice> vultraz: when i compile wtih scons, my command lines look like this:
20150301 03:24:41< iceiceice> http://pastebin.com/k6Q3UUVC
20150301 03:25:02< iceiceice> all those things "-DHAVE_LIBDBUS -DHAVE_LIBPNG -DHAVE_HISTORY ..."
20150301 03:25:07< iceiceice> those add C preprocessor symbols
20150301 03:25:12< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 23fdebae11e2 / src/playsingle_controller.cpp: clear undo stack on ai turn http://git.io/xc3z
20150301 03:25:29< iceiceice> if you have that at command line, then when the compiler is going, if you have #ifdef HAVE_LIBDBUS it will be true
20150301 03:25:33< iceiceice> whereas it will be false in general
20150301 03:25:46< iceiceice> we have several compile options that work like this
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20150301 03:25:53< iceiceice> idk if it is good or bad to do this
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20150301 03:26:20< iceiceice> anyways if you are compiling with an IDE then to have symbols like this added i think you have to edit the project file somehow
20150301 03:27:30< vultraz> I'm using codeblocks
20150301 03:27:35< vultraz> I'll see if I can figure out how
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20150301 03:32:05< vultraz> dammit
20150301 03:32:06< vultraz> :(
20150301 03:32:44< vultraz> I added the HAVE_LIBPNG define but it still doesn't work
20150301 03:32:57< vultraz> maybe ineed a complete rebuild?
20150301 03:33:00< iceiceice> probaBLY
20150301 03:33:06< iceiceice> *probably
20150301 03:33:13< vultraz> let's try that
20150301 03:33:25< iceiceice> i think ides have different conventions,
20150301 03:33:59< iceiceice> mattsc once said it was hard to make the OS X ide add a define to all files, it was only easy to do it on individual files (I may be remembering wrong or misunderstood)
20150301 03:34:15< iceiceice> in scons we sort of just add the defines to all files
20150301 03:34:30< iceiceice> which is bad for recompilation but meh
20150301 03:35:49< vultraz> thankfully, a rebuild doesn't take long for me
20150301 03:36:07< irker717> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master e89f52ca5c94 / src/team.cpp: bug #23188: check the game events for NULL when capturing villages http://git.io/xcGU
20150301 03:36:09< irker717> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 48ea3d2f3bbc / src/ (28 files in 8 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/xcGT
20150301 03:36:11< irker717> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 520210b47e9c / src/playsingle_controller.cpp: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/xcGk
20150301 03:40:31< gfgtdf> iceiceice: did you test that it fixes it ?
20150301 03:40:42< iceiceice> yes, i tested your test scenario
20150301 03:40:44< iceiceice> and i ran the unit tests
20150301 03:41:01< iceiceice> i didn't play any campaigns
20150301 03:41:17< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you means teh deactivateed unit tests ?
20150301 03:41:27< iceiceice> i didnt reactivate any tests
20150301 03:41:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/10a5851a797bbf9dae960c97a673236c5dc6e6a0
20150301 03:45:14< gfgtdf> iceiceice: but the commit looks like good, i first thought pump_ was empty becasue the segfautl happend when dereferenconf *pump_ but that would be most likeley rather an assertion failure thana segfault
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20150301 03:46:43< gfgtdf> s/looks like good/looks good 
20150301 03:47:06< gfgtdf> idk whether 'looks liek good' is also a valid was to say it.
20150301 03:47:14< gfgtdf> way*
20150301 03:48:12< iceiceice> i guess "looks pretty good" is a coloquialism in america
20150301 03:48:26< iceiceice> i'm not sure if its "proper" english gneeral
20150301 03:48:29< iceiceice> *generally
20150301 03:48:45< iceiceice> i ran the tests that were disabled, they all pass now
20150301 03:48:54< gfgtdf> :9
20150301 03:48:57< gfgtdf> :)
20150301 03:50:34< irker717> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master af06820729ab / wml_test_schedule: re-enable some tests related to pathfinding that were disabled http://git.io/xcnf
20150301 03:50:54< vultraz> C:\Users\Charles\Documents\wesnoth-git\src\image.cpp|1270|undefined reference to `SDL_PNGFormatAlpha(SDL_Surface*)'|
20150301 03:50:59< vultraz> C:\Users\Charles\Documents\wesnoth-git\src\image.cpp|1271|undefined reference to `SDL_SavePNG_RW(SDL_Surface*, SDL_RWops*, int)'|
20150301 03:52:13< vultraz> iceiceice: I have to go, but any ideas? ^
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20150301 03:52:15< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#5839 (master - b60809e : gfgtdf): The build was fixed.
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20150301 03:52:25< iceiceice> hmmm
20150301 03:52:49< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i'd say src/SDL_SavePNG/savepng.cpp  is not included in build
20150301 03:52:51< iceiceice> vultraz: do you have the files in src/SDL_SavePNG included
20150301 03:52:55< gfgtdf> vultraz: i mean
20150301 03:53:09< vultraz> ahh
20150301 03:53:10< gfgtdf> s/iceiceice/vultraz
20150301 03:53:43< vultraz> iceiceice: both the cpp and .h?
20150301 03:54:35< iceiceice> idk exactly how codeblocks works, but either both or just .h are required
20150301 03:54:46< gfgtdf> no
20150301 03:54:55< gfgtdf> the .cpp is teh one that gets compiled
20150301 03:55:35< gfgtdf> that gets passed to the compiler i mean
20150301 03:56:06< iceiceice> it looks like codeblocks wants to have both .hpp and .cpp files in the project file?
20150301 03:56:12< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/projectfiles/CodeBlocks/wesnoth.cbp
20150301 03:56:41< iceiceice> anyways yeah i dont see sdl save png in there anyways
20150301 03:57:34< gfgtdf> i think the h files are just there to have them visible in teh codeblocks filebroswer. Most likeley codeblocks is smart enough not to tell the compiler to compile the hpp files.
20150301 03:59:00< irker717> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 56d6e12896e2 / src/play_controller.cpp: dont do init_side during start event http://git.io/xcny
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20150301 04:03:46< iceiceice> gfgtdf:
20150301 04:03:56< iceiceice> regarding 23243
20150301 04:04:08< iceiceice> "segfault when clicking during [delay] in prestart"
20150301 04:04:34< iceiceice> I think that maybe instead of assert button is true, we should just skip this step in the loop if it is NULL?
20150301 04:04:43< iceiceice> this comment seems to say its okay for buttons to be null
20150301 04:04:44< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/display.hpp#L393
20150301 04:06:42< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i think that was fabis diea aswell
20150301 04:06:49< gfgtdf> idea*
20150301 04:07:25< iceiceice> i guess maybe its better to bisect this 
20150301 04:07:38< iceiceice> its 1.12 also though?
20150301 04:07:54< iceiceice> maybe it always crashed in this case?
20150301 04:09:19< gfgtdf> iceiceice: idk, fabi said he'd fix it so i didnt think about it anymore. But i remembered that i encountered similar crashes when i made the synced context pr in 1.11.13
20150301 04:09:36< iceiceice> ok
20150301 04:09:48< gfgtdf> iceiceice: see this comment: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/synced_context.cpp#L231
20150301 04:09:54< gfgtdf> iceiceice: maybe it is teh same crash
20150301 04:12:59< gfgtdf> iceiceice: also it is possible that even when that bug it fixed it sill crashes somehere else
20150301 04:14:26< gfgtdf> i go to sleep now gn8
20150301 04:14:34< iceiceice> bb
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20150301 04:21:41< iceiceice> i have to go also
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20150301 09:51:14< vultraz> hey aquileia 
20150301 09:51:32< aquileia> hi
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20150301 10:30:26< irker142> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 ddbd01e03a50 / / (5 files in 4 dirs): updated German translation http://git.io/xCqS
20150301 10:30:26< irker142> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 51f62e7f4804 / po/ (wesnoth-manual/de.po wesnoth-thot/de.po): updated German translation http://git.io/xCq9
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20150301 12:25:58< aquileia> zookeeper: "the 62 strings 'encyclopedia/drakes' [...] don't belong [in wesnoth-help] according to zookeeper"
20150301 12:28:17< aquileia> Did you mean they should be in another textdomain, that they are unused, that they should be removed, or none of all that?
20150301 12:28:35< zookeeper> in what context did i say that?
20150301 12:28:53< aquileia> I don't know
20150301 12:28:54< zookeeper> oh, right
20150301 12:30:48< zookeeper> i'm guessing i meant that because the stuff there is very much WIP or non-canon or whatever _and_ it's not accessible in-game, we shouldn't burden translators with it
20150301 12:40:13< aquileia> well, the easiest way to remove them from the catalogue would be to change the file extension
20150301 12:40:39< aquileia> zookeeper: I'll do that if you don't mind
20150301 12:41:49< zookeeper> i don't have a preference really... of course it'd be nice if translations already made wouldn't be invalidated, but i don't think there's any way to do that
20150301 12:42:14< zookeeper> if they're disabled then it doesn't seem to matter which way it's done
20150301 12:42:30< aquileia> They'll be commented out AFAIK, so they won't be lost
20150301 12:42:53< zookeeper> right
20150301 12:45:48< aquileia> Hmm... can you do a pot update? I never got it working on Windows (I had to write my own batch script to translate my campaign)
20150301 12:46:17 * zookeeper can't
20150301 12:50:03< aquileia> shadowm, Ivanovic, any non-Windows dev: Could someone change the extension of data\core\encyclopedia\drakes.cfg to e.g. .txt and run a pot & po update?
20150301 12:51:35< aquileia> removing the extension would work as well, of course
20150301 12:57:21< irker142> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth:1.12 ffea3c524ad0 / po/wesnoth-help/de.po: Update german translation http://git.io/xCdp
20150301 13:00:26< irker142> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth:master eaf2bb7b0d3f / po/wesnoth-help/de.po: Update german translation http://git.io/xCFS
20150301 13:07:56< aquileia> Well, if noone is around, I'll rename it now and the translation change will happen with the next regular pot update
20150301 13:17:09< Sulfur> How comes, that an arif (sword, chainmail and no pierce attack) with his "intense focus on swordplay" advances to a spear-wielding mudafi (no sword, no chainmail but a pierce attack)? Shouldn't the arif advance to the monawish (sword, chainmail, no pierce attack) and the jundi (no sword, no chainmail but a pierce attack) to the mudafi line? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97230181/khali-switchedpaths.png
20150301 13:17:48< Sulfur> I think it is rather confusing because the arif and the monawish look so similar.
20150301 13:20:04< zookeeper> yeah seems a bit weird
20150301 13:20:30< aquileia> Sulfur: It'd be more logical for sure, but there's probably a balance argument, as there always is...
20150301 13:20:53< aquileia> If there isn't, I agree
20150301 13:21:25< zookeeper> i dunno, seems like it could actually be a screwup
20150301 13:21:49< zookeeper> looks like no one who knows is around right now, so you might want to post in the khalifate thread
20150301 13:24:25< aquileia> the similar style of Jundi and Mudafi is due to something else, btw - only those two unit lines were updated yet
20150301 13:26:04< aquileia> quite a few more are WIP: https://github.com/aquileia/wesnoth-resources/blob/master/units/khalifate/khalifateRedux9.png
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20150301 13:31:52< aquileia> shikadibot: seen velensk
20150301 13:31:52< shikadibot> aquileia: Sorry, I don't know of velensk.
20150301 13:32:25< aquileia> shikadibot: seen happygrue
20150301 13:32:25< shikadibot> aquileia: The person with the nick happygrue last spoke 3d 19h ago.  2d 10h ago they left with the message: Quit: http://xkcd.com/91/
20150301 13:33:08 * aquileia thinks it can't hurt to ping them the next time they log in
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20150301 13:42:25< irker142> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth:master 9285ea89c891 / data/core/encyclopedia/ (drakes.cfg drakes.txt): Remove WIP drake encyclopedia from translatable files http://git.io/xWUs
20150301 13:43:05< Sulfur> Is there an 'official' khalifate thread? It seems like there are several semi-active ones
20150301 13:43:09< irker142> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth:1.12 6093cea63443 / data/core/encyclopedia/ (drakes.cfg drakes.txt): Remove WIP drake encyclopedia from translatable files http://git.io/xWU2
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20150301 14:17:36< zookeeper> Sulfur, i guess there isn't one anymore
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20150301 14:41:55< irker142> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 641d59e4bc3b / src/ (5 files): remove game_classification::completion member http://git.io/xWBn
20150301 14:41:57< irker142> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 95068fe2b19f / src/playsingle_controller.cpp: remove unneeded indention block http://git.io/xWBc
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20150301 15:46:13< vultraz> I still can't decide what to do with the runaway dwarves in NR S5 >_>
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20150301 16:49:42< irker142> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 7111e9bbfdf8 / src/playsingle_controller.cpp: fire victory/defeat events for observers http://git.io/xlLR
20150301 16:49:44< irker142> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 341c31a6b902 / src/ (playsingle_controller.cpp synced_context.cpp synced_context.hpp): add "scenario_end" event http://git.io/xlL0
20150301 16:49:46< irker142> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 8c0bc92f382a / src/ (playsingle_controller.cpp replay_controller.cpp): sync "time over" event http://git.io/xlLE
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20150301 17:02:21< Ivanovic> aquileia: why the hell would you change the file to .txt?
20150301 17:02:42< Ivanovic> aquileia: this in fact BREAKS the translation as in the file is no longer searched by the update script
20150301 17:03:14< Ivanovic> so if the stuff should be gone completely, delete the file
20150301 17:05:17< Ivanovic> aquileia: and the translations are going to be lost for those translation maintainers that regulary cleanup the commented out sections
20150301 17:05:28< Ivanovic> (many do this, especially between new stable series)
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20150301 21:56:41< aquileia> Ivanovic: That's the point - it should no longer match the FINDCFG pattern. It isn't used ingame, so it seems logical not to translate it. As to maintainers cleaning up comments, the strings are still in the repo history at least
20150301 21:59:40< Ivanovic> aquileia: and why not show the strings ingame instead?
20150301 21:59:41< aquileia> And I thought usually only moved strings (where the commented version is a duplicate) are pruned, but as said they'll still be somewhere if the file ever gets added
20150301 22:00:57< aquileia> It seems odd to have an elaborate encyclopedia on drakes alone, with lore not yet approved AFAIK and in a WIP state if I understood correctly
20150301 22:06:10< aquileia> hmm, https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f0fb305ad6ad removed the entries four years ago, so they might once have been approved
20150301 22:12:18< aquileia> But considering fabi introduced these entries in the first place, I'm confident he removed them for a reason
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