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20150315 00:41:07< iceiceice> gfgtdf: if loading a savegame file can take a long time, do you think that this line can also take a long time?
20150315 00:41:08< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/game_initialization/multiplayer_lobby.cpp#L575
20150315 00:41:40< iceiceice> i would think that its better to get the map from the config cache, no?
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20150315 02:26:29< vultraz> april 5th
20150315 02:26:32< vultraz> shadowm
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20150315 02:39:14< shadowm> If Ivanovic doesn't want to/can't do it then I'm fine with doing 1.13.0.
20150315 02:39:58< shadowm> Though I haven't yet figured out what to do with the add-ons server on the long run and I had hoped to get that done first. :\
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20150315 06:08:50< vultraz> 		if (type_.jamming() > 0)
20150315 06:08:53< vultraz> jamming?
20150315 06:14:05< iceiceice> jamming is this feature which fabi added
20150315 06:15:13< vultraz> what's it do?
20150315 06:15:26< iceiceice> its like,
20150315 06:15:37< iceiceice> if a unit has jamming,
20150315 06:15:48< iceiceice> it reduces the vision of enemy units with regards to the hexes that are near to it
20150315 06:15:55< shadowm> Counter units' vision points, yes.
20150315 06:16:11< iceiceice> i dont know if anyone is actually using it in any content
20150315 06:16:26< shadowm> Vision points may also be configured separately from MP, but that's obviously not done in mainline because it's counterintuitive for a game like Wesnoth.
20150315 06:17:46< vultraz> ah
20150315 06:20:05< vultraz> blegh. so annoying when a little thing eludes you..
20150315 06:20:39< vultraz> I got every generated topic list prefaced with • ... except the unit race list > _ < 
20150315 06:21:34< vultraz> and terrains, blegh
20150315 06:21:44< vultraz> this help code is so messy
20150315 06:22:22< shadowm> That's putting it lightly.
20150315 06:22:40< vultraz> it's not even in a proper class
20150315 06:25:09< iceiceice> i helped it a little bit a while ago...
20150315 06:25:12< iceiceice> it used to be all one file
20150315 06:25:28< iceiceice> but it takes a large amount of patience to read a file like that
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20150315 06:35:30< vultraz> error: request for member 'title' in 'this', which is of non-class type 'help::section* const'|
20150315 06:35:32< vultraz> grrr
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20150315 06:37:29< vultraz> it's this stuff that uses the add_section generation 
20150315 06:38:03< iceiceice> vultraz: i dont really know what that error message means,
20150315 06:38:12< vultraz> yeah...
20150315 06:38:15< iceiceice> my best guess atm is that its something about pointer vs value
20150315 06:38:21< vultraz> nevermind it
20150315 06:38:27< vultraz> I'm probably doing it wrong anyway
20150315 06:38:52< vultraz> trying preappend a bullet to the section title..but that would make the bullet part of the link
20150315 06:38:53< vultraz> blegh
20150315 06:40:08< iceiceice> i am thinking maybe i can merge this soon: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/284
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20150315 06:44:04< iceiceice> its hard to test it rigorously...
20150315 06:46:38< iceiceice> im not sure if i will really try to get all the bizarre add-on versioning configurations to be tested before i commit
20150315 06:46:38< iceiceice> or a representative sample anyways
20150315 06:46:38< iceiceice> it is definitely working on the simple ones
20150315 06:46:38< vultraz> I think we should enforce a general standard for versioning 
20150315 06:46:50< iceiceice> yeah so what i did was,
20150315 06:47:03< iceiceice> it takes shadowms "version_info" class
20150315 06:47:09< iceiceice> which weve had since forever,
20150315 06:47:30< iceiceice> so theres a few things
20150315 06:47:44< iceiceice> (1) when addon data is loaded into the game,
20150315 06:47:54< iceiceice> i.e. from the config cache to the game_config,
20150315 06:48:04< iceiceice> by scanning over all relevant directories,
20150315 06:48:29< iceiceice> at that time we will make a note a of the addon_id (directory name) and addon_version (whatevers in the pbl / info file)
20150315 06:48:42< iceiceice> we make a note in every [era] or [modification] tag that gets loaded from there
20150315 06:49:00< iceiceice> could also do scenario, that is a tbd feature i guess for mp campaigns
20150315 06:49:19< iceiceice> so now every era and mod knows what addon_id and what version it is
20150315 06:49:47< iceiceice> (2) in the mp game settings object which keeps track of settings for a savedgame,
20150315 06:50:02< iceiceice> add addon + version info records,
20150315 06:50:20< iceiceice> which get populated when we are expanding era, modification data into a full level
20150315 06:51:01< iceiceice> that has the consequence that hte lobby game list now knows what addons and what version are needed to join game
20150315 06:51:22< iceiceice> so step (3) is to just make the lobby handle this info properly, give good options and do the right thing
20150315 06:52:41< iceiceice> tekelili requested a more advanced feature here:
20150315 06:52:41< iceiceice> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?23334
20150315 06:52:59< iceiceice> the idea there is that "era" and "modification" should have their own versions independent of the addon
20150315 06:54:04< iceiceice> what i did instead is, each [era] and [modification] can have an optional field "addon_min_version"
20150315 06:54:14< iceiceice> thats suppose dto be the oldest version that you are backwards compatible with
20150315 06:54:30< iceiceice> if you dont enter one, it is assumed that you dont have any backwards compat
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20150315 07:34:02< irker747> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 927ec38fbe41 / src/help/help_impl.cpp: Preface topic lists with bullets. Certain sections still lack http://git.io/phIE
20150315 07:35:35< vultraz> If someone wants to figure out how everything generated under generate_sections can be prefaced with bullets in the text window only, please do
20150315 07:54:16< irker747> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:help_gui2 d8836e7b9970 / / (4 files in 3 dirs): Initial framework for a GUI2 version of the help browser http://git.io/phtX
20150315 07:54:19< irker747> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 6bc135f98d79 / data/core/help.cfg: Merge the Fundamentals of Gameplay topic with toplevel http://git.io/pht1
20150315 07:54:39< vultraz> um...
20150315 07:54:52< vultraz> didn't mean to push that
20150315 07:54:59< vultraz> the helpgui2 branch
20150315 07:55:01< vultraz> oh well
20150315 07:55:06< vultraz> I suppose it might as well be there
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20150315 08:32:38< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#5961 (hide_all_overlays - f1bca97 : Charles Dang): The build passed.
20150315 08:32:38< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/54429426
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20150315 08:32:44< vultraz> ...
20150315 08:32:46< vultraz> wait what?
20150315 08:32:54< vultraz> ...
20150315 08:33:11< vultraz> did I accidentally push All when pushing push_header(first_row, _("Type"));
20150315 08:33:14< vultraz> ...
20150315 08:33:16< vultraz> wow
20150315 08:33:17< vultraz> clipboard fail
20150315 08:33:21< vultraz> 6bc135f98d79 
20150315 08:33:25< vultraz> *sigh*
20150315 08:34:36< vultraz> deleted that
20150315 08:41:01< vultraz> note to self: rewrite Fundamentals of Gameplay
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20150315 09:28:02< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/54429440
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20150315 16:51:21< irker897> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 1569c8ce8b74 / data/core/help.cfg src/help/help_impl.cpp: Rewrote and reordered a bunch of help stuff related to the Gameplay and Introduc http://git.io/he0k
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20150315 16:57:02< vultraz> Yes, I know the About section I wrote in that probably sucks. I'll improve it later
20150315 17:05:38< vultraz> I still need to go through all of the gameplay topics and improve the text
20150315 17:15:09< irker897> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master b1212640503f / src/help/help_topic_generators.cpp: Don't use numeric reference for TC palette http://git.io/heVx
20150315 17:16:39< vultraz> iceiceice: BTW, shouldn't the warning about loading an mp save from outside of mp happen as soon as you attempt to load, not after it starts loading?
20150315 17:17:09< iceiceice> we shold just fix it so that it always works correctly
20150315 17:17:26< iceiceice> a year ago idk how to do that, now its probably easier
20150315 17:17:49< vultraz> oh?
20150315 17:17:55< vultraz> well I guess that would be better, yeah...
20150315 17:21:35< irker897> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master fae7443e63a9 / data/core/help.cfg src/dialogs.cpp: Fixed a few more numeric TC palette references http://git.io/heo0
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20150315 17:29:33< vultraz> I will say that there are a minute few benefits to the current system here...such as being able to decide whether to draw a box around an image or not
20150315 17:40:06< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master b71899545395 / src/addon/manager_ui.cpp: add "try_fetch_addon" function private in manager_ui.cpp http://git.io/he1Z
20150315 17:40:08< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 260ed9ddf30b / src/addon/manager_ui.cpp: add ADDON_OP_RESULT struct, refactor do_resove_dependencies fcn http://git.io/he1n
20150315 17:40:10< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 5112a5643942 / src/addon/manager_ui.cpp: add try_fetch_addon_with_checks fcn, use when gui installs addons http://git.io/he1c
20150315 17:40:12< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master aef12fcebfd5 / src/addon/ (manager_ui.cpp manager_ui.hpp): add ad_hoc_addon_fetch_session fcn, installs an add-on given its id http://git.io/he1C
20150315 17:40:14< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 1f793bb458e3 / src/game_config_manager.cpp: in game cfg mgr, annotate era, mod tags with the addon_id http://git.io/he1W
20150315 17:40:16< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master e334a506c154 / src/ (mp_game_settings.cpp mp_game_settings.hpp saved_game.cpp): in fcn expand_mp_events, also collect addon_ids, for mp_settings http://git.io/he1l
20150315 17:40:18< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 1cafaf296c30 / src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): in mp lobby, try to download addons if we can't join a game http://git.io/he18
20150315 17:40:20< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 281014aee3de / src/game_initialization/multiplayer_lobby.cpp: fixup double-click not working to download addons in lobby http://git.io/he14
20150315 17:40:22< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master eff4d0b3c6df / src/game_initialization/ (4 files): fix mp lobby autodownloading of addons http://git.io/he1B
20150315 17:40:24< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 3f640b8e718e / src/game_config_manager.cpp: drop support for "single-file addons" (my_addon.cfg not with a dir) http://git.io/he1R
20150315 17:40:26< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 60ec660e5787 / src/game_config_manager.cpp: annotate [era], [modification] with addon version, as well as id http://git.io/he10
20150315 17:40:28< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 5e817689a536 / src/ (4 files): add version metadata for add-ons to mp_game_settings http://git.io/he1E
20150315 17:40:30< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 6ffb9df33dd8 / src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add addon version checking and reporting to multiplayer lobby http://git.io/he1u
20150315 17:40:32< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master bf0658522638 / src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ad_hoc_addon_fetch_session now takes a list of add-ons not just one http://git.io/he1z
20150315 17:40:34< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 4197f2777e10 / src/saved_game.cpp: respect the "require_era" type fields for scenario add-on deps http://git.io/he1g
20150315 17:40:36< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 36e181538ee3 / src/game_initialization/multiplayer_lobby.cpp: move addon dialog code out of from mp::lobby::process_event_impl http://git.io/he12
20150315 17:40:38< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 844dd5d799d4 / src/ (11 files in 4 dirs): Merge pull request #284 from cbeck88/autodownload_addons http://git.io/he1a
20150315 17:50:21< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 28cdfaa101bf / changelog: update changelog http://git.io/heyy
20150315 17:57:41< irker897> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 925ee2152dc6 / src/help/help_topic_generators.cpp: Don't draw boxes around unit sprites in help http://git.io/he9r
20150315 18:00:36< irker897> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 785b3a390216 / data/core/help.cfg: Moved a bit to the intro from Gameplay http://git.io/heHC
20150315 18:01:26< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 1d3147ddcbfe / RELEASE_NOTES: update RELEASE_NOTES http://git.io/heHK
20150315 18:01:28< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 710c0db9f49c / data/core/help.cfg src/help/help_topic_generators.cpp: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/heH6
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20150315 18:13:36< irker897> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 1c0ea99399c1 / src/help/help_browser.cpp: Place back/forward buttons inline with the Close button http://git.io/hedV
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20150315 18:15:23< gfgtdf> iceiceice: in https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4197f2777e10b8514e40166dcaad7182fdf983a2 why do you check both cfg.has_attribute("addon_id") && !cfg["addon_id"].empty() ?
20150315 18:15:47< iceiceice> maybe i should be checking "blank"
20150315 18:15:55< iceiceice> probably i got confused
20150315 18:16:22< iceiceice> no, i think i did it right
20150315 18:16:56< gfgtdf> iceiceice: !cfg["addon_id"].empty()  implies cfg.has_attribute("addon_id").
20150315 18:16:58< iceiceice> i see so you think it should just be `cfg["addon_id"].empty()` since if it doesnt have the attribute ti implies empty
20150315 18:17:11< iceiceice> yeah
20150315 18:18:23< iceiceice> yeah i will fix that later
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20150315 18:24:46 * vultraz off
20150315 18:38:48< gfgtdf> iceiceice: also require_modification defaults to false.
20150315 18:39:06< gfgtdf> iceiceice (unlike require_era)
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20150315 20:04:39< mattsc> ancestral (and iceiceice, vultraz, shadowm, …): Just FYI, I will probably not be around the weekend of April 5 or the week leading up to it, and I won’t have much time before then either.
20150315 20:04:56< mattsc> So if you have remaining questions about OS X builds, the sooner we can talk about them the better.  I can’t promise that I can always get back to you quickly, but I’ll do what I can.
20150315 20:05:04< mattsc> Got to go again, sorry.
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20150315 20:07:46< iceiceice> shadowm: i realized i have a bunch of bad exception scenarios i created, because the comparison operations for version_info can throw exceptions,
20150315 20:08:14< iceiceice> i am thinking to create a wrapper class like `sane_version_info` or something, which will throw the exception in the constructor instead if the version string is not sane
20150315 20:08:55< iceiceice> and be non-throwing otherwise
20150315 20:09:48< iceiceice> basically wanted to ask if you think it would be better to change the entire version_info class than to do that.
20150315 20:09:59< iceiceice> not knowing all the other places right now that the version_info class is used
20150315 20:15:06< shadowm> Ugh.
20150315 20:15:21< shadowm> Every time I hear about wrapper classes I feel like throwing up.
20150315 20:16:55< shadowm> I vaguely recall coming to the conclusion that the sane flag is superfluous, I'll check the code later.
20150315 20:17:43< iceiceice> ok
20150315 20:17:54< iceiceice> fwiw, i realized its not actually that often that i have to compare these things,
20150315 20:18:01< iceiceice> so i think i might just catch the exception
20150315 20:18:11< iceiceice> i think its not actually a big deal
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20150315 20:20:22< iceiceice> thanks
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20150315 20:43:05< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master b6d64714f636 / src/saved_game.cpp: fixup 4197f2777e10b8514e40166dcaad7182fdf983a2 http://git.io/hv2a
20150315 20:43:07< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 9ca0ace8cf12 / src/saved_game.cpp: catch version_info::not_sane_exception when expanding mp games http://git.io/hv2V
20150315 20:43:09< irker897> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 0ede774080ba / src/help/help_browser.cpp: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/hv2w
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