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20150319 00:11:18< aquileia> Ok, uploading works as well.
20150319 00:14:00< aquileia> Just for reference, this is the _server.ign I used: https://github.com/aquileia/Anabasis/blob/master/_server.ign
20150319 00:14:40< aquileia> It works on both master and my feature branch, the difference is simply how the comments are treated
20150319 00:17:14< aquileia> In any case, I'm off, bye
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20150319 02:46:50< vultraz> shadowm: what's up with the forums?
20150319 02:50:16< vultraz> SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]
20150319 02:50:18< vultraz> Host '192.168.1.2' is blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts' [1129]
20150319 02:50:23< vultraz> ? ? ?
20150319 02:54:27< shadowm> I'm busy feeding animals, give me 30 minutes.
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20150319 03:10:34< iceiceice> hey does anyone know is the irc logs mirror is still up?
20150319 03:10:37< iceiceice> and remember what it is? :p
20150319 03:10:43< shadowm> It's not up.
20150319 03:10:54< iceiceice> ok bummer
20150319 03:11:12< iceiceice> i dont think i'm actually out of date, i did read it earlier today
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20150319 03:13:50< vultraz> Is there a reason we can't merge #356?
20150319 03:18:35< iceiceice> i think its just no one has signed off on it
20150319 03:19:18< shadowm> Let's be honest, the only active developers atm are you two and gfgtdf and zookeeper.
20150319 03:19:38< shadowm> And aquileia.
20150319 03:19:51< shadowm> So there aren't a lot of people to take care of pull requests.
20150319 03:19:52< iceiceice> i mean there's some "C++ devs" meaning like, me and gfgtdf
20150319 03:19:58< iceiceice> and occasionally you
20150319 03:20:10< bumbadadabum> is mattsc still around?
20150319 03:20:18< shadowm> I'm not active, that's why I didn't include myself on the lsit.
20150319 03:20:33< vultraz> could you look at it, iceiceice?
20150319 03:20:34< iceiceice> and i guess aquileia also comments on C++ patches helpfully quite oftne
20150319 03:20:44< iceiceice> idk who all is doing campaign stuff
20150319 03:20:55< shadowm> vultraz and zookeeper I believe.
20150319 03:21:02< iceiceice> and bumbadadadum?
20150319 03:21:07< bumbadadabum> ye
20150319 03:21:09< vultraz> he's doing EI
20150319 03:21:23< shadowm> zookeeper has served as the mainline-minus-NR WML maintainer for years.
20150319 03:21:26< iceiceice> vultraz: i never really read all the attack code,
20150319 03:21:34< iceiceice> i remember there was some line at the top of the file saying "dont touch this"
20150319 03:21:41< vultraz> aquelia is also helping with the campaign stuff
20150319 03:21:42< iceiceice> i always thought of that as a bad sine
20150319 03:21:44< iceiceice> *sign
20150319 03:21:56< iceiceice> i'm not going to promise to look at it
20150319 03:22:15< bumbadadabum> how would we even attract more devs?
20150319 03:24:04< iceiceice> well thats a hard question,
20150319 03:24:14< iceiceice> i think realistically the only people who want to try to read obscure C++ code on the old standard and fix bugs, are people who really like playing the game
20150319 03:24:34< iceiceice> so i think if we try to get it in front of more people i guess it might help
20150319 03:24:48< bumbadadabum> frankly, I think the lack of art development is hampering the C++ development
20150319 03:24:48< iceiceice> so i guess... put it on steam :p
20150319 03:24:56< shadowm> Masochists too.
20150319 03:25:11< vultraz> why can't we use C++11 again?
20150319 03:25:13< shadowm> It takes that to use C++ (regardless of spec) in the first place.
20150319 03:25:25< bumbadadabum> new art getting posted gives the idea of "we're still working on it"
20150319 03:25:32< bumbadadabum> people don't SEE the code development that much
20150319 03:25:46< iceiceice> shadowm: if you had to write wesnoth all over again, what language would you use?
20150319 03:25:51< iceiceice> if not C++
20150319 03:26:03< iceiceice> and more importantly why
20150319 03:26:09< bumbadadabum> if he doesn't answer Clojure his choice is wrong
20150319 03:26:12< shadowm> I don't know. *shrug*
20150319 03:26:15< iceiceice> haha
20150319 03:26:18< ancestral> Assembly
20150319 03:26:26< shadowm> I've never managed to finish a project in any language myself.
20150319 03:26:35< bumbadadabum> rewrite wesnoth in WML
20150319 03:26:44< iceiceice> lol
20150319 03:26:46< vultraz> LOL
20150319 03:26:52< iceiceice> i think maybe a language like ML would be good
20150319 03:26:59< ancestral> There are languages that bootstrap themselves
20150319 03:27:01< iceiceice> but there's not that many people that know it
20150319 03:27:20< bumbadadabum> I've been hearing a lot of good things about Go
20150319 03:27:25< iceiceice> ancestral: actually its arguably a sign of a bad language if you can't write the compiler for the language in that language, boostrapping style
20150319 03:27:54< iceiceice> or if you don't want to do it
20150319 03:28:06< bumbadadabum> welp look at the time see you all tomorrow
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20150319 03:28:13< shadowm> Okay, so Lua is a bad language then?
20150319 03:28:56< iceiceice> yeah the claim doens't really make sense for interpretted languages
20150319 03:29:32< iceiceice> i have to go also, gnight
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20150319 03:36:10< vultraz> shadowm: anything with the forums?
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20150319 03:44:59< vultraz> ah fixed
20150319 03:46:52< shadowm> Probably just excessive time outs.
20150319 03:47:18< shadowm> A backup job has been hogging up disk access for 22 hours.
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20150319 03:47:38< irker078> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master f5dd1f928896 / data/core/help.cfg: Improved Victory and Defeat section http://git.io/hBpn
20150319 03:49:47< vultraz> 1.13 changes help pages so much
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20150319 17:08:57< AI0867> shadowm: yes, that was the plan. Given the PR, I assumed something was discussed here
20150319 17:09:30< AI0867> both the Addon.pbl and the Addon.cfg, even
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20150319 17:13:56< aquileia> AI0867: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3f640b8e718
20150319 17:15:46< aquileia> If we need to support single file addons, we'd have to revert this as well (and iceiceice possibly has to redo the dependency check feature)
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20150319 17:20:10< aquileia> AI0867: The discussion is in wesnoth-dev.2015-03-14.log
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20150319 18:05:51< vultraz> zookeeper: I'd like to make some formatting changes the to geography section of the encyclopedia. Should I want for you to merge your pending minor textual fixes ?
20150319 18:08:41< vultraz> s/want/wait
20150319 18:08:56< vultraz> since it will cause conflicts
20150319 18:12:27< zookeeper> hrhm, yeah, i guess i could commit my stuff now...
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20150319 18:19:50< zookeeper> but it will take time because git
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20150319 18:23:28< vultraz> no rush
20150319 18:24:47< zookeeper> it couldn't sync/pull because conflicts. ok, i stashed, and then pulled. i tried to stash pop or whatever, and it said it can't because conflict. but my locally changed files are actually back despite that, and when i resolve the conflict on the conflicting file using _my_ changes, the file no longer appears modified at all, implying that my local changes just got lost somehow.
20150319 18:26:41< Soliton> what does resolving the conflict entail? just file editing or some git command?
20150319 18:27:35< zookeeper> telling it to "resolve conflict using 'mine'" (as opposed to "resolve conflict using 'theirs'")
20150319 18:28:14< Soliton> and "it" is?
20150319 18:28:30< zookeeper> tortoisegit
20150319 18:28:32< Soliton> if you used git add or so it won't show with git diff but with git diff --cached.
20150319 18:29:18< Soliton> no idea how you can tell tortoisegit to show you git diff --cached, but i think that's you issue.
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20150319 18:30:13< Soliton> you can also git reset to unstage the changes again so they show with plain git diff.
20150319 18:30:18< zookeeper> yeah, what
20150319 18:30:22< zookeeper> who comes up with this crap?
20150319 18:31:09< zookeeper> if it would at least allow me to view the stashed file, i could just do the obvious and copypaste it
20150319 18:31:40< Soliton> git stash show -p
20150319 18:32:31< Soliton> if git stash pop shows a conflict it means it still applied that changes though, just that there was a conflict.
20150319 18:33:28< Soliton> and it also leaves the stash so you probably want to drop it once you fixed the conflict.
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20150319 18:35:12< zookeeper> ah, found a way to view the stashed file
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20150319 18:36:41< Soliton> you'll learn git in time... :-P
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20150319 18:36:42< zookeeper> which unfortunately is almost useless due to how it differs with the current one in a thousand places already
20150319 18:36:46< zookeeper> i doubt it
20150319 18:39:00< zookeeper> well, i also managed to view the original diff and it looks like i only got one change in that file after all
20150319 18:39:04< zookeeper> phew
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20150319 18:43:31< irker355> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master f0cb11ed7377 / data/core/help.cfg: Recruiting is confirmed with "OK", not "Recruit" http://git.io/hzSL
20150319 18:43:35< zookeeper> onwards to geography.cfg...
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20150319 18:46:37< irker355> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 544171d8c6af / data/core/encyclopedia/geography.cfg: Added missing periods http://git.io/hz9A
20150319 18:49:04< irker355> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 50b94bb1fcc9 / data/core/encyclopedia/geography.cfg: Removed obsolete mention of Green Swamp http://git.io/hzQE
20150319 18:52:53< irker355> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 2b504a76375c / data/core/encyclopedia/geography.cfg: Updated the "Southwest Elven Lands" section http://git.io/hzdJ
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20150319 18:56:25< zookeeper> vultraz, that should be all that i had lined up
20150319 18:56:53< zookeeper> some of the wording in the last commit could probably be improved
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20150319 20:40:22< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#5996 (master - 544171d : ln-zookeeper): The build was broken.
20150319 20:40:23< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/55071692
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20150319 21:38:35< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#5997 (master - 50b94bb : ln-zookeeper): The build has errored.
20150319 21:38:35< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/55072109
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20150319 21:47:47< aquileia> zookeeper: travis errored with "Quoted string not terminated  at core/encyclopedia/./geography.cfg:174"
20150319 21:48:11< zookeeper> whoops
20150319 21:49:01< zookeeper> but... there is a closing quote there
20150319 21:49:33< aquileia> Do you want me to search which line is missing it? The error is somewhere before and isn't reported correctly
20150319 21:50:44< zookeeper> sure... since i see no missing quotes anywhere
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20150319 21:51:40< zookeeper> nor do i get any such error from that file alone
20150319 21:52:55< zookeeper> anyway, i'm off to bed, will read the logs in the morning...
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20150319 22:00:59< aquileia> Oh right, you already fixed that with http://git.io/hzQE (removing a duplicate quote) but travis still reported the broken build
20150319 22:02:18< aquileia> Everything fine, then
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20150319 22:22:47< irker237> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master d898e1d7e820 / src/game_state.cpp: simplify game_state::init http://git.io/h2Wo
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20150319 23:28:46< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#5999 (master - d898e1d : gfgtdf): The build passed.
20150319 23:28:46< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/55100365
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