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20150326 07:52:01< vultraz> I'm considering dropping the Sister/Brother appellations from Thera and Morvin in NR. It seems too...religious, and it's not established anywhere in the lore.
20150326 07:53:09< vultraz> if they're literally supposed to be siblings, it seems a damn funny way of referring to it
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20150326 07:55:43< vultraz> and they're not, since they're married
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20150326 08:04:57< groggydice> disagree. many undead-fighting white mages have "religious" titles, e.g. "minister hylas"
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20150326 08:08:03< irker925> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 05c0b736f4dc / data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/ (maps/06a_Old_Friend.map scenarios/06a_Old_Friend.cfg): NR S6a: improved map http://git.io/jOee
20150326 08:09:35< zookeeper> yeah that doesn't sound overtly religious to me
20150326 08:09:58< zookeeper> all sorts of groups can use those kind of appellations
20150326 08:10:59< vultraz> hm... well in that case I'll leave it
20150326 08:12:29< zookeeper> if they were a bishop and abbess or something then i'd very much agree :P
20150326 08:14:32< groggydice> i wouldn't have a problem with that
20150326 08:15:11< groggydice> the people of wesnoth aren't atheists, and thera and morvin specifically talk about lords of light and darkness
20150326 08:15:50< vultraz> we never really developed the pantheon 
20150326 08:16:07< vultraz> well, shadowm's UMC does. but we don't really consider that canon
20150326 08:16:15< vultraz> mainline canon, that is
20150326 08:18:29< groggydice> also, they're not sister/brother, but sister/father
20150326 08:18:42< groggydice> some might complain that's sexist
20150326 08:19:05< vultraz> right...
20150326 08:19:18< vultraz> I wonder why it was made that way
20150326 08:21:48< groggydice> i'm not big on political correctness, so i'm not complaining, mind you
20150326 08:23:02< vultraz> likewise
20150326 08:23:11< vultraz> I just never noticed the discrepancy 
20150326 08:23:56< vultraz> anyway, time to make it so they only heal, not resurrect, each other, when you lose one
20150326 08:25:29< groggydice> is that only wml-side, or is that change going to be reflected in the dialog
20150326 08:26:01< vultraz> Both
20150326 08:26:18< vultraz> since right now, they're basically practicing necromancy :P
20150326 08:27:51< groggydice> hmm... another of your "improvements" that i don't think improve things
20150326 08:30:10< groggydice> i think Valkier's rough drafts of Thera/Morvin look too young
20150326 08:30:27< groggydice> though his effort seems to have stalled out
20150326 08:30:29< zookeeper> you mean they can die permanently? i'd expect a lot of dialog to assume they're both alive
20150326 08:31:18< groggydice> great Elenia though. wow!
20150326 08:31:28< zookeeper> an alternative would be to take away their moves/attacks/whatever when they perform a resurrect, so it doesn't come entirely free. two of them surrounded by enemies would be able to keep resurrecting each other forever, but they wouldn't able to do absolutely anything else.
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20150326 09:26:06< vultraz> groggydice: well, aquelia suggested it in the first place
20150326 09:28:29< vultraz> right now they die, then respawn in another location> I was going to change it to teleport the relevant one to a location, then heal them
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20150326 10:24:24< irker925> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 7144800db63d / data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/ (8 files in 2 dirs): NR: split S6a storyscreen cutscene into actual cutscene scenario http://git.io/jOgr
20150326 10:46:53< irker925> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 09f4e646e3e9 / data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/scenarios/06a_Old_Friend.cfg: NR S6a: swapped victory objectives and marked secondary as alternative http://git.io/jOPC
20150326 11:01:41< irker925> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth:master c7c6c60038a7 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/ (scenarios/04c_Mal-Ravanals_Capital.cfg utils/macros.cfg): EI: More improvements to S4c http://git.io/j3JE
20150326 11:01:45< irker925> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth:master 40e96e13a6d8 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/maps/04c_Mal-Ravanals_Capital.map: EI: final tweaks to the S4c map http://git.io/j3Ju
20150326 11:01:48< irker925> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth:master 2b947b9e28e0 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/04c_Mal-Ravanals_Capital.cfg: EI: Small tweaks to S4c http://git.io/j3Jz
20150326 11:08:18< irker925> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master ad0971b35564 / data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/scenarios/05a_02_Dealings.cfg: NR S5a_02: improvements http://git.io/j3qs
20150326 11:08:21< irker925> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 8c068caba5b3 / data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/scenarios/05a_01_The_Pursuit.cfg: NR S05a_01: got rid of a commented out line from 7144800db63d http://git.io/j3qG
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20150326 18:09:44< vultraz> !seen lipkab
20150326 18:09:55< vultraz> damn, what was it...
20150326 18:10:11< bumbadadabum> shikadibot: seen libkab
20150326 18:10:11< shikadibot> bumbadadabum: Sorry, I don't know of libkab.
20150326 18:10:15< bumbadadabum> shikadibot: seen lipkab
20150326 18:10:15< shikadibot> bumbadadabum: The person with the nick lipkab 13d 21h ago they left with the message: Quit: Sűrű sötét az éj, dühöng a déli szél
20150326 18:10:23< vultraz> ty
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20150326 18:13:22< irker849> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master f5669e1e3512 / src/playsingle_controller.cpp: simplify playsingle_controller::play_side() http://git.io/jZt5
20150326 18:13:24< irker849> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 236227e967f7 / src/ (saved_game.cpp saved_game.hpp): refactor saved_game::set_default_save_id and rename http://git.io/jZtd
20150326 18:13:26< irker849> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 1a92a8206bf9 / src/game_initialization/connect_engine.cpp: move sending of [create_game] and [update_game] http://git.io/jZtF
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20150326 20:19:45< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#6061 (master - 1a92a82 : gfgtdf): The build was broken.
20150326 20:19:45< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/55989480
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20150326 21:33:02< irker657> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master c1a052714bf5 / src/team.cpp: add carryover_add and carryover_percentage to team::attributes list http://git.io/jnPc
20150326 21:33:02< irker657> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 68eaaad4fbf6 / src/ (team.cpp team.hpp): use flat_set for team::attributes http://git.io/jnPC
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20150326 21:54:46< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/56017086
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20150326 23:56:20< irker657> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master b892e16b9487 / src/ (15 files in 2 dirs): include lua/... files after others http://git.io/jcBq
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20150326 23:59:58< gfgtdf> iceiceice: with the new "Random no mirror" option in mp configure the screen looks worse with low resulution see this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/iFaZLv2.png
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