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20150318 16:32:50< psymin> Is there any way to have a dedicated server without having an active and participating client running 24x7?  I want a buddy to be able to take a turn when my pc is off .. and vice versa.
20150318 16:33:05< psymin> I was hoping wesnothd would provide this, but it does not
20150318 16:33:11< psymin> .. it does not appear to
20150318 16:33:32< zookeeper> assuming i understood what you want, then wesnothd should do the job
20150318 16:33:37< zookeeper> (not that i have any idea how to use it, myself)
20150318 16:34:56< psymin> wesnothd seems more like a lobby .. and if I connect to the lobby and create a game, that game goes away when I, the host, disconnect
20150318 16:35:07< zookeeper> yes
20150318 16:35:44< zookeeper> so you basically want a lobby but where the game stays on even if no players are currently in it?
20150318 16:35:59< psymin> That would be splendid.
20150318 16:36:21< zookeeper> i don't think that's possible
20150318 16:36:25< psymin> Where the lobby is the "host" of the game.
20150318 16:36:37< psymin> so no one player is required to be online for the others to play
20150318 16:38:31< zookeeper> yeah, i doubt wesnothd can do that
20150318 16:39:43< zookeeper> as a completely different kind of alternative, you could just keep a savefile on dropbox or similar, and have both players load/save to that (although you'd still need to make sure you don't do it at the same time...)
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20150318 16:54:32< Soliton> what's usually called the lobby is the room you get to when you log on as opposed to a game that you create and others can join.
20150318 16:54:45< Soliton> games end when the last client leaves.
20150318 16:55:52< psymin> Ahh, so a created game will stay open even when the creator leaves .. if a player is still connected?
20150318 16:56:00< zookeeper> yes
20150318 16:56:17< Soliton> yes, the host/creator will be reassigned then.
20150318 16:56:34< Soliton> (and all its sides)
20150318 16:58:01< Soliton> you could create a client that stays on 24/7 and reassigns sides based on player/observer names that join.
20150318 16:58:02< psymin> would it be possible for a game to be created by a client that isn't an active participant in a game?  Maybe a spectator or something?
20150318 16:58:23< Soliton> the host does not need to own a side, yes.
20150318 16:58:28< psymin> ooh
20150318 16:58:36< psymin> so clients could disconnect and just go "idle"
20150318 16:59:12< Soliton> well, their sides would get reassigned to the host.
20150318 16:59:41< Soliton> what you#d have to implement is that host client that automatically gives you your sides back once you join again.
20150318 17:00:11< Soliton> currently it can be done (interactively) with commands.
20150318 17:01:34 * psymin ponders.
20150318 17:07:30< psymin> Could you connect to my lobby and help me get some "hands on" experience with how the lobby functions?
20150318 17:07:42< psymin> games.lastbest.net:15000
20150318 17:08:58< Soliton> i don't have a wesnoth client here. what do you want to do? server commands are explained here: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ServerAdministration
20150318 17:10:31< psymin> interesting
20150318 17:31:51< psymin> interesting .. when unidling a side, it states that it has become undroided instead :) .. just a discrepancy in the message output
20150318 17:33:28< psymin> neat, is there a way to send these commands via the command line? :D
20150318 17:38:48< Soliton> the server commands? yes. the ingame commands you're probably refering to, no.
20150318 17:43:59< psymin> Yep, ingame commands like ":control 1"
20150318 18:05:53< Ravana_> this is yet another thing that http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=579547 could achieve
20150318 18:07:39< psymin> neat
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20150318 18:10:14< psymin> I'd like to be able to run a "headless" client that maybe is just the full client gui sent to a null xorg display via xvfb .. .. if it could be launched, create a game, and assign players via the command line .. that would be swell.  Looks like a lot of work.
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