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20150429 00:15:04< ancestral> Alright, my package is uploaded too
20150429 00:15:53< ancestral> So basically, “Wesnoth_1.13.0.dmg” works 10.6-10.9, “Wesnoth_1.13.0_Yosemite.dmg” works 10.10.
20150429 00:16:06< ancestral> (I can rename if you see fit)
20150429 00:16:28< ancestral> Known issues: Obviously *that*
20150429 00:17:03< ancestral> Also, fonts are drawn using the system fonts instead of the game fonts
20150429 00:17:50< ancestral> mattsc: Your build, does it draw with DejaVu Sans? When you have time, can you take a screenshot of the main menu screen?
20150429 00:18:15< ancestral> My USB drive apparently died so I was unable to test with my 10.8 ystem
20150429 00:18:19< ancestral> *system
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20150429 01:51:58< shadowm> ancestral: If you feel it's final, please post the links and info in the forum thread and update http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Template:DevDownload accordingly.
20150429 01:52:59< shadowm> Why is the 10.10 version 12 MiB or so larger?
20150429 01:53:51< shadowm> s,(If),$1/when,
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20150429 04:44:25< ancestral> shadowm: Honestly not sure
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20150429 09:10:26< shadowm> shadowm@nanacore:~/src/wesnoth% git fetch
20150429 09:10:32< shadowm>  * [new branch]      cbeck88-patch-1 -> origin/cbeck88-patch-1
20150429 09:10:33< shadowm>  * [new branch]      foo        -> origin/foo
20150429 09:10:58< shadowm> What's foo?
20150429 09:11:46< shadowm> Also, is cbeck88-patch-1 a branch for iceiceice's PR or someone else checked it out and accidentally pushed it upstream?
20150429 09:12:14< shadowm> Hm, Git doesn't know this stuff but GitHub probably does.
20150429 09:12:26< vultraz> foo is even with master
20150429 09:13:03< shadowm> iceiceice: Okay, GitHub say both branches are yours. I assume cbeck88-patch-1 is for your PR, but I guess you didn't want to push foo.
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20150429 09:54:53< irker876> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 082cfdc9afe2 / data/core/macros/ (abilities.cfg animation-utils.cfg sound-utils.cfg): Updated core macros to use [filter] status= instead of [filter_wml] http://git.io/vJvSQ
20150429 09:54:53< irker876> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 9f2fbaea9d54 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/utils/ (abilities.cfg dehydration-utils.cfg kaleh-abilities.cfg): UtBS: used [filter] status= instead of [filter_wml] http://git.io/vJvS7
20150429 09:54:53< irker876> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 0c05c872fff3 / data/campaigns/Dead_Water/units/Brawler.cfg: DW: used [filter] status= instead of [filter_wml] http://git.io/vJvS5
20150429 09:54:55< irker876> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master c6466bf226e2 / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/07_The_Desert_of_Death.cfg: SotBE: used [filter] status= instead of [filter_wml] http://git.io/vJvSd
20150429 09:54:56< irker876> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master f6b445f0261a / data/multiplayer/scenarios/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ANL: used [filter] status= instead of [filter_wml] http://git.io/vJvSF
20150429 09:54:58< irker876> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 1f6603e73b86 / data/scenario-test.cfg: test scenario: used [filter] status= instead of [filter_wml] http://git.io/vJvSN
20150429 09:55:00< irker876> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 256bffafcc22 / changelog: changelog entry http://git.io/vJvSA
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20150429 09:56:04< vultraz> niiicee
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20150429 10:07:51< Elvish_Hunter> Hi all
20150429 10:11:35< vultraz> Elvish_Hunter: thanks for doing that
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20150429 10:42:10< Elvish_Hunter> vultraz: I'd have done it sooner, if it wasn't for the fact that I added the feature when the 1.13.0 release was imminent
20150429 10:42:32< vultraz> fyi, you could have done it immediately
20150429 10:42:35< vultraz> but no matter
20150429 10:42:37< vultraz> :)
20150429 10:44:24< Elvish_Hunter> Yes, but I always try to test my stuff before pushing it - and that requires time ;-)
20150429 10:46:15< Elvish_Hunter> Anyway, today I don't have much time to chat, so... bye!
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20150429 11:31:12< irker876> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth:master 8b2f0deccc00 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/maps/07b_Undead_Crossing.map: EI: small updates to the S7b map http://git.io/vJf35
20150429 11:31:14< irker876> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth:master 37c6dcde1d87 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/maps/09_Xenophobia.map: EI: Updated the map for S9 http://git.io/vJf3d
20150429 11:31:17< irker876> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth:master c8adbf18c5e4 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/ (maps/09_Xenophobia.map scenarios/09_Xenophobia.cfg utils/schedule.cfg): EI: First updates to S9 http://git.io/vJf3F
20150429 11:31:21< irker876> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth:master d90c930bd8eb / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/08_Training_the_Ogres.cfg: EI: little things in S8 http://git.io/vJf3b
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20150429 12:12:33< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/60522705
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20150429 17:31:44< iceiceice> shadowm: mattsc made a request about lua print to have a space between the items when you print multiple things
20150429 17:32:02< iceiceice> since i dont have an up-to-date clone, i tried to make a patch on my fork using github web interface
20150429 17:32:16< iceiceice> i think it didnt work, also the code is bugged
20150429 17:32:25< iceiceice> so you can delete both "foo" and "cbeck88-patch-1" if you like
20150429 17:32:56< iceiceice> i'm not sure how they got sent to the upstream, i thoguht they should only be on my fork...
20150429 17:33:12 * iceiceice blames the github web interface.
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20150429 17:36:08< iceiceice> actually i deleted them
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20150429 18:57:33< aquileia> vultraz: http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&p=584600#p584600
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20150429 18:58:09< irker247> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master c095029d68f8 / src/scripting/lua_kernel_base.cpp: lua print: put a space between items http://git.io/vJTyo
20150429 18:58:11< iceiceice> mattsc: ^
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20150429 19:53:21< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#6446 (master - c095029 : Chris Beck): The build was fixed.
20150429 19:53:21< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/60583495
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20150429 20:58:09< c74d> iceiceice: If that's an implementation of the standard Lua `print` function, shouldn't it put a horizontal tab character between each argument, rather than a space after each argument?
20150429 20:58:35< iceiceice> is that what lua print does?
20150429 20:58:38< iceiceice> i never noticed
20150429 20:59:00< c74d> yes
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20150429 21:06:28< c74d> I'd file a pull-request for it, but I don't have a clone at present.
20150429 21:08:04< c74d> I suppose I could use GitHub's text-editor Web-application.
20150429 21:09:42< iceiceice> its ok im changing it :p
20150429 21:09:52< iceiceice> i will run the unit tests locally
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20150429 21:11:30< c74d> good, because apparently GitHub won't let me fork wesnoth/wesnoth again because I already have a fork of it.
20150429 21:11:53< c74d> (I suppose I could spin up new “organization” and fork it to that…)
20150429 21:11:58< c74d> *a new
20150429 21:12:17< iceiceice> yeah i mean i tried to do it that way the first time and it was not great
20150429 21:12:46< iceiceice> the github text editor is surprisingly weak...
20150429 21:12:53< iceiceice> try some time to edit the changelog in it
20150429 21:13:03< iceiceice> it has a lag of like 10 seconds per character i guess because the file is so large
20150429 21:13:39< c74d> It's the DOM, supposedly. GitHub likes text editors like that, I guess…
20150429 21:14:05< iceiceice> hmmm
20150429 21:14:12< iceiceice> so thats not like ping to server lag?
20150429 21:14:23< iceiceice> thats actually just the time to modify a DOM representation of the changelog on *my* machine?
20150429 21:14:49< iceiceice> i mean my ping is not bad but i thought that it must be a server-sided application somehow if it is lagging to edit a text file
20150429 21:14:59< c74d> I at least would presume that the editor is implemented in locally-running JavaScript with inefficient DOM manipulation, like Atom.
20150429 21:15:10< iceiceice> gads
20150429 21:16:20< c74d> (there would be little point round-tripping edit events through a remote server before applying them locally)
20150429 21:18:24< irker247> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master bce5fb22e59f / src/scripting/lua_kernel_base.cpp: fixup HEAD^ http://git.io/vJk90
20150429 21:18:28< iceiceice> c74d: ^
20150429 21:19:06< c74d> ++
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20150429 21:24:22< ancestral> shadowm: Edited the announcement
20150429 21:24:47< ancestral> If you’d like it worded differently, I can change it
20150429 21:25:11< ancestral> If you’d like a statement about 10.6 being the minimum OS now, that can be added
20150429 21:26:02< ancestral> I was searching for bugs and didn’t see one submitted for the pango/font issue I’ve been experiencing, so I’ll write that up later today so it can be referenced
20150429 21:27:20< ancestral> Then if you’d me to add something to “Known Issues” I can put something in there
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20150429 21:36:20< mattsc> ancestral: my title screen looks pretty bad:  http://imgur.com/fGVzWY6
20150429 21:36:44< mattsc> I’ve always been meaning to look into that, but I don’t know much about these things, so I never got started.
20150429 21:37:04< mattsc> And when you I knew that you would take over, I took it of my task list  :|
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20150429 21:38:10< mattsc> iceiceice: thanks — and I guess it’s tabs, not spaces; personally I don’t care which one it is, but for consistency it’s probably better to make it tabs; I just don’t want to have to rewrite the gazillion print commands I have in my AI code…
20150429 21:38:24< mattsc> (and yes, I know that I could redefine the print() function)
20150429 21:38:58< iceiceice> pretty easy fix, no worries
20150429 21:39:12< shadowm> ancestral: I wanted you to post in a reply, not edit the announcement.
20150429 21:39:57< mattsc> iceiceice: okay, good; (and sorry for the misinformation)
20150429 21:40:24< mattsc> and with that, I’m off again
20150429 21:40:29< mattsc> bye, everybody
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20150429 22:10:40< StandYourGround> Okay, so I'm running Yosemite 10.10.4 Public Beta 1, and attempting to run Wesnoth 1.13.0 (Yosemite build).  Crashes on launch after loading caches, and before rendering the main window.  Dropbox link to crash details: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/963452/Misc/CrashLog.txt
20150429 22:12:04< c74d> ancestral: ^
20150429 22:13:49< StandYourGround> Saw all the useful posts on the forum about minor glitches in campaigns, so I didn't want to clutter that with my trivial crash report :P
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20150429 22:18:45< c74d> ancestral: StandYourGround has a crash in Pango on Apple OS X 10.10, see logs.
20150429 22:19:34< StandYourGround> I can copy/paste
20150429 22:23:14< ancestral> StandYourGround: Can you put it up on a pastebin site?
20150429 22:23:41< ancestral> Did it happen right as you got to the main menu?
20150429 22:24:35< StandYourGround> http://pastebin.com/v2q5J9a5
20150429 22:24:42< StandYourGround> Right before the main menu was to load
20150429 22:24:51< StandYourGround> and isn't Pango for font rendering?
20150429 22:25:07< StandYourGround> If it is, I'd also like to report that the status text on the loading screen looked suspiciously retro
20150429 22:26:04< StandYourGround> Not really antialiased or anything
20150429 22:26:30< ancestral> That I think is normal…
20150429 22:26:42< ancestral> Deja Vu Sans
20150429 22:27:11< shadowm> It should be antialiased, just not the same way as the rest.
20150429 22:27:16< ancestral> StandYourGround: If you have the time and bandwidth, I would love for you to try downloading the 10.6-10.9 version
20150429 22:27:24< ancestral> and try that one out
20150429 22:27:33< ancestral> (Doesn’t have to happen right now, just whenever)
20150429 22:28:07< ancestral> StandYourGround: Ah you’re on the beta 😉
20150429 22:28:46< StandYourGround> Beta everything.  My iPod has the iOS 8.4 Beta… and I should probably boot to my Windows partition to update the Windows 10 Tech Preview build
20150429 22:29:24< ancestral> Really curious if the 10.6-10.9 package mattsc put out would work for you. If so, it might be a bug in 10.10.x-10.10.3
20150429 22:29:47< StandYourGround> What are the differences?
20150429 22:29:53< StandYourGround> at least the important ones...
20150429 22:30:00< ancestral> The header files for Pango 
20150429 22:30:08< ancestral> And maybe the dylibs for it too
20150429 22:30:24< ancestral> Pango is the system that draws the text to the screen
20150429 22:30:46< StandYourGround> Font renderer, in other words :)
20150429 22:30:49< ancestral> I’m probably oversimplifying it
20150429 22:30:51< ancestral> But yes
20150429 22:31:36< ancestral> If the 10.6-10.9 package works, let me know please
20150429 22:31:41< StandYourGround> it's downloading
20150429 22:31:45< ancestral> Cool
20150429 22:32:08< StandYourGround> another thing I've noticed with any version of wesnoth since 1.11…  first launch always takes a long time
20150429 22:32:39< ancestral> Yes
20150429 22:32:49< StandYourGround> and sometimes after it gets to some milestone (like not hopping on the dock anymore), I will force quit it, and it will pick up where it appeared to have left off before and finish faster
20150429 22:33:15< StandYourGround> like it seems to hang at some point in first launch, and a force quite resets it and makes it work
20150429 22:33:29< ancestral> Not sure what part of Wesnoth is working at that point, if it’s checking for support files, creating directories, building caches, I would defer to the other devs
20150429 22:33:45< ancestral> I’ve just learned to be patient, as it eventually loads
20150429 22:33:48< StandYourGround> But after first launch finally suceeds, no issues
20150429 22:33:56< ancestral> Right
20150429 22:34:33< StandYourGround> I can be patient, but I draw the line when it's taking longer to launch than to clear the Infested Caves in Northern Rebirth
20150429 22:35:54< StandYourGround> Okay, waiting for the less specifically targeted build of 1.13.0 to launch…
20150429 22:36:48< StandYourGround> Same crash, same ugly loading text
20150429 22:36:58< StandYourGround> Didn't grab a crashlog, but I can relaunch it
20150429 22:37:14< StandYourGround> I am running it off the disk image, but I doubt that makes a difference for pango
20150429 22:40:12< ancestral> Same crash
20150429 22:40:16< ancestral> That’s interesting
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20150429 22:41:49< ancestral> StandYourGround: Like this? http://imgur.com/JBG5EBy
20150429 22:42:07< StandYourGround> Kinda
20150429 22:42:15< ancestral> Kinda?
20150429 22:42:38< StandYourGround> Thought I'd grab my own screenshot to be objective
20150429 22:42:43< ancestral> Sure
20150429 22:42:53< StandYourGround> but now the build is just crashing without launching
20150429 22:43:07< ancestral> Well, that’s not surprising for the 10.6-10.9
20150429 22:43:15< ancestral> If you run the 10.10 one?
20150429 22:43:28< ancestral> (Thanks for trying the 10.6-10.9 version anyway)
20150429 22:43:50< StandYourGround> Okay, yeah it's the same as your screenshot
20150429 22:44:33< StandYourGround> Funny that the 10.6-9 version launched once
20150429 22:44:34< ancestral> The fonts are not being rendered by OS X. It is anti-aliased, just not very strongly
20150429 22:44:42< ancestral> StandYourGround: Like it never crashed?
20150429 22:44:58< StandYourGround> no, it crashed at the same point as the 10.10 build
20150429 22:45:04< StandYourGround> but that was one time
20150429 22:45:15< StandYourGround> now it doesn't even keep its icon on my Dock for more than a few seconds
20150429 22:45:22< ancestral> Not surprising
20150429 22:45:28< StandYourGround> If I copy it off the disk image
20150429 22:45:36< StandYourGround> on the disk image, it hangs with Gatekeeper
20150429 22:45:45< StandYourGround> but again, it did work once
20150429 22:45:50< StandYourGround> at least as far as the 10.10 did
20150429 22:46:02< ancestral> You can control-click on the app to override the Gatekeeper settings
20150429 22:46:13< StandYourGround> I do that all the time, and I two-finger-click
20150429 22:46:19< ancestral> Cool
20150429 22:46:20< ancestral> If you don’t mind trying one more thing, deleting ~/Library/Application Support/Wesnoth_1.13, and then try running the 10.10 verson once more, that would be great
20150429 22:46:28< StandYourGround> but in Yosemite, Gatekeeper still likes to "verify" it for some reason
20150429 22:46:40< StandYourGround> k
20150429 22:47:55< StandYourGround> That time, it launched quickly, even with the support folder deleted
20150429 22:47:59< StandYourGround> but still crashed the same
20150429 22:48:11< StandYourGround> maybe I need to delete something in ~/Library/Caches too
20150429 22:48:49< StandYourGround> nope, nothing there to dele
20150429 22:49:25< ancestral> Yeah, Wesnoth stores the cache in the Application Support folder
20150429 22:49:44< ancestral> Which is… sort of not advised
20150429 22:50:07< StandYourGround> Yeah, but it's still not as bad as ~/.config or ~/.app_name
20150429 22:50:10< ancestral> StandYourGround: Okay so what I’ve learned is, with 10.10.4, it doesn’t work with either package
20150429 22:50:16< ancestral> True
20150429 22:50:37< ancestral> StandYourGround: If you’d like, if you want to build Wesnoth 1.13, I can guide you how using Homebrew
20150429 22:50:45< StandYourGround> I have homebrew
20150429 22:50:49< ancestral> Cool
20150429 22:51:10< StandYourGround> Is there a specific (Homebrew term for repository that escapes me) I need to add?
20150429 22:51:25< ancestral> http://r.wesnoth.org/p577235
20150429 22:51:34< ancestral> I think maybe you need to tap Homebrew games
20150429 22:52:13< ancestral> (You don’t have to install cairo and pango manually as in the post, if you have XQuartz already)
20150429 22:52:27< StandYourGround> oh ok.  I have XQuartz
20150429 22:52:52< ancestral> so just `brew install --devel wesnoth`
20150429 22:52:56< StandYourGround> k
20150429 22:53:18< StandYourGround> Pretty sure I've already tapped /Homebrew/games
20150429 22:53:36< ancestral> I’ll update the post to write that in there
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20150429 22:56:04< ancestral> When it’s done, to launch wesnoth, just type `wesnoth` in the terminal
20150429 22:56:07< StandYourGround> No devel block is defined for Wesnoth
20150429 22:56:11< ancestral> Hmm
20150429 22:56:20< StandYourGround> Yeah, I know how to use homebrew.  I used to use Wine a lot
20150429 22:56:22< ancestral> ^ iceiceice
20150429 22:56:26< ancestral> Cool
20150429 22:56:39< StandYourGround> and some other package manager that escapes me
20150429 22:56:48< ancestral> Try --HEAD
20150429 22:56:52< ancestral> Which would be master
20150429 22:57:05< ancestral> brew install --HEAD wesnoth
20150429 22:57:43< ancestral> See if that works
20150429 22:57:55< StandYourGround> It's downloading dependencies right now
20150429 22:58:11< StandYourGround> it will say exactly what version of Wesnoth I'm getting, right>
20150429 23:00:33< ancestral> I’ve gotta go, but I’l check irc logs later
20150429 23:00:35< ancestral> Good luck!
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20150429 23:03:06< StandYourGround> *fullscreens Terminal into external display*  Okay, I can keep an eye on this for a while
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20150429 23:15:23< StandYourGround> I'll come back after it finishes.
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20150429 23:29:09< StandYourGround> Well, the homebrew build launched and went to work right away.  fullscreen was glitch until I got the resolution adjusted, but all in all pretty decent so far.  Gonna miss the old title music, but whatever.
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20150429 23:32:25< StandYourGround> Performance okay so far… there was a considerable amount of lag on keyboard input until about a minute after launch.  (Trying to enter my username to log into the multiplayer server)
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20150429 23:35:39< iceiceice> StandYourGround: i think you can change the title screen music to what you want
20150429 23:35:43< iceiceice> if you edit the game_config.cfg
20150429 23:36:54< iceiceice> yeah so i guess there is no --devel block right now, i didnt push any updates since 1.13. got released
20150429 23:39:18< StandYourGround> I know.  Just don't really care to. :P
20150429 23:39:22< shadowm> Can we override [game_config] using add-ons yet?
20150429 23:39:36< shadowm> (Don't say 'core' pls.)
20150429 23:39:38< iceiceice> i think some parts can be overrided using lua
20150429 23:39:41< iceiceice> but not most of it
20150429 23:40:06< shadowm> Though, that said, I'd hate it if someone uploaded an add-on that just reverted the music config.
20150429 23:40:42< StandYourGround> I'd consider doing it just to trick people into listening to Darude - Sandstorm
20150429 23:41:06< iceiceice> should just rick roll all the users :p
20150429 23:41:50< iceiceice> StandYourGround: so as i understood, the homebrew build works
20150429 23:41:55< iceiceice> except for some issue about the fonts
20150429 23:42:01< iceiceice> getting helvetica on the title screen or something
20150429 23:42:10< iceiceice> instead of what its supposed to be
20150429 23:42:11< StandYourGround> The pango issue was crashing any build downloaded from Sourceforge
20150429 23:42:31< StandYourGround> not exactly helvetica, it was game rendering, just pretty ugly compared to previous versions
20150429 23:42:42< StandYourGround> or maybe that's the new standard too :P
20150429 23:43:01< StandYourGround> but yes, the homebrew build is working
20150429 23:43:09< StandYourGround> have not extensively tested it, but it did launch
20150429 23:44:14< iceiceice> wait so what was ugly?
20150429 23:44:24< iceiceice> like, the unit images in game or something?
20150429 23:44:27< iceiceice> or just the font rendering
20150429 23:44:33< StandYourGround> the fonts on the loading screen
20150429 23:44:39< iceiceice> hmmm ok
20150429 23:44:47< StandYourGround> pretty plain and blocky, not as antialiased
20150429 23:45:03< StandYourGround> especially when compared against previous versions
20150429 23:45:23< StandYourGround> and since that was all of Wesnoth I got to see until I built from Homebrew, not a good impression
20150429 23:46:37< StandYourGround> Also, until I jacked up the screen res, many of the gui elements that would be blue were yellow
20150429 23:46:52< StandYourGround> it's a fairly common low-res color shifting thing I see when using SDL apps
20150429 23:47:25< iceiceice> man i dont understand what they were thinking when they added these high res displays
20150429 23:47:37< StandYourGround> SDL?
20150429 23:47:42< iceiceice> no like apple & co.
20150429 23:47:54< iceiceice> like the hardware is great but why mess with the software?
20150429 23:47:56< StandYourGround> I mean Low Res as in 800x600 vs normal res
20150429 23:48:11< StandYourGround> I use an older mac that doesn't have Retina
20150429 23:48:16< iceiceice> theres no reason why having a high res display should require you to rewrite the code of old applications
20150429 23:48:17< StandYourGround> my max is 1680x1050
20150429 23:48:21< iceiceice> oh ok
20150429 23:48:41< StandYourGround> and all I was saying is that colors are wrong when SDL apps are launched in minimum resolution
20150429 23:48:50< StandYourGround> this holds true for other SDL apps I have used as well
20150429 23:48:55< iceiceice> yeah i mean... 
20150429 23:49:15< iceiceice> i think its just hard to get all that stuff workign correctly on every platform, SDL doesnt really help us out
20150429 23:49:54< iceiceice> so, afaik the homebrew build is a fine way to build wesnoth
20150429 23:50:05< iceiceice> ancestral reported some problems with the fonts on the title screen when i first added it
20150429 23:50:11< StandYourGround> Also, when an SDL app runs in fullscreen on minimum resoultion, it is not center aligned, and all gui elements respond when the mouse is at a pretty sizable offset away from the actual element as rendered
20150429 23:50:49< iceiceice> i dont know what exactly can cause the font problems, its fairly complex i guess
20150429 23:51:09< iceiceice> there's multiple libraries involved
20150429 23:51:19< iceiceice> i'm not really sure what are sensible diagnostics to run
20150429 23:51:34< iceiceice> i think you could google your way to victory with enough time,
20150429 23:52:15< iceiceice> all of the libraries e.g. pango, cairo, font-config have pretty decent documentation at sites like this:
20150429 23:52:16< iceiceice> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/x/pango.html
20150429 23:52:27< iceiceice> also homebrew itself exposes some of those options
20150429 23:52:27< StandYourGround> also the added complexities of building for different OS targets in Mac
20150429 23:52:54< iceiceice> if i actually had a mac what i would do i guess is, read the homebrew scripts for pango, cairo, font-config,
20150429 23:53:01< iceiceice> and check if there are any options that sound relevant
20150429 23:53:09< iceiceice> and try twiddling those in the wesnoth.rb recipe
20150429 23:53:29< iceiceice> but also if you aren't reporting font problems then who really knows what it is
20150429 23:53:39< iceiceice> it might even have been a bug in one of these that got fixed, and homebrew got the fix upstream
20150429 23:53:44< iceiceice> ancestral reported these problems like 6 months ago
20150429 23:54:17< iceiceice> also fwiw, i cannot reliably distinguish between screen shots with helvetica and screen shots with deja vu sans :p
20150429 23:54:31< iceiceice> i mean i can see that they are different but i couldn't tell you which is which
20150429 23:54:57< iceiceice> the text is too small in the wesnoth screens
20150429 23:57:27< StandYourGround> I might try googling around to see if there are forum posts from people having font troubles with cairo/pango in SDL
20150429 23:57:42< iceiceice> do you actually have the font troubles?
20150429 23:59:01< StandYourGround> If by that you mean fonts not looking "nice", yes
20150429 23:59:19< StandYourGround> they look pretty retro compared to 1.12.x
20150429 23:59:59< iceiceice> hmmmm
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