--- Log opened Thu Apr 30 00:00:21 2015
20150430 00:00:45< iceiceice> ok so to make sure i understand (i think i got confused in the log)
20150430 00:00:58< iceiceice> - both posted builds crash for you, with backtraces to pango
20150430 00:01:10< iceiceice> - the homebrew build works, but the fonts are not properly anti-aliased?
20150430 00:02:21< StandYourGround> correct
20150430 00:02:34< StandYourGround> the other details are more general issues with SDL apps as I've experience
20150430 00:04:28< iceiceice> yeah i see
20150430 00:05:12< iceiceice> heh i found an email that crimson_penguin sent to the cairo list 6 years ago: http://lists.cairographics.org/archives/cairo/2009-September/018103.html
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20150430 00:33:49< crimson_penguin> hah
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20150430 00:46:18< iceiceice> StandYourGround: so also,
20150430 00:46:27< iceiceice> i guess the most recent change to the actual C++ font code is probably this by me:
20150430 00:46:28< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1bc74718222181127454fb42794b64c20b9fe9f7
20150430 00:46:46< iceiceice> so one thing you could do is try building at thsi commit:
20150430 00:46:47< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1edeff4ee24889f507812102faddb9952f1db89e
20150430 00:46:50< iceiceice> just before that
20150430 00:47:03< iceiceice> if that makes the fonts look better then i know i messed up somehow
20150430 00:47:23< iceiceice> although it would be wierd if that commit introduced an OS X specific bug
20150430 00:47:37< iceiceice> thats the only reason i can think that it would be much different for you in 1.12 vs 1.13 thoguh
20150430 00:57:13< StandYourGround> would that be simple to do in Homebrew, or would I have to get that to work manually?
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20150430 01:02:25< iceiceice> i think it might be easy in homebrew
20150430 01:06:01< iceiceice> StandYourGround: so i've often tinkered with homebrew formulas in gist,
20150430 01:06:11< iceiceice> and then i send the raw link to ancestral to test
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20150430 01:06:49< iceiceice> right so heres an old version https://gist.github.com/cbeck88/49b0de6ab31fe5f4260a
20150430 01:07:12< iceiceice> if you `brew uninstall wesnoth` and then `brew install [url]` where url is the raw link then it should downlaod that and use it
20150430 01:07:20< iceiceice> how to make it actually build from an old commit,
20150430 01:07:25< iceiceice> id ont remember how to do that off the top of my head
20150430 01:07:46< iceiceice> oh
20150430 01:07:47< iceiceice> i guess its here
20150430 01:07:48< iceiceice> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/share/doc/homebrew/Formula-Cookbook.md#head
20150430 01:12:50< StandYourGround> Didn't work… it tried to view the last part of the URL as the formula name
20150430 01:13:06< iceiceice> StandYourGround: so i think the easier way is probably like
20150430 01:13:13< iceiceice> homebrew --edit wesnoth
20150430 01:13:16< iceiceice> or whatever the syntax is
20150430 01:14:09< iceiceice> i guess its just `brew edit wesnoth`
20150430 01:14:32< iceiceice> then find the `  head "https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth.git"` line
20150430 01:15:11< iceiceice> and add ` :revision => "..."`
20150430 01:19:54< StandYourGround> ick.  Vim
20150430 01:20:35< StandYourGround> meh.  I'll play with this some other time
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20150430 04:17:17< irker552> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 8ce9b665bd80 / data/campaigns/Northern_Rebirth/scenarios/02_01_Infested_Caves.cfg: NR S2.1: don't charge upkeep for Hamel's Stalwart guards http://git.io/vJL09
20150430 04:17:18< irker552> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 972fe21cac66 / src/scripting/lua_kernel_base.cpp: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/vJL0H
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20150430 04:44:04< irker552> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 61d0fe448b15 / data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/10_Alone_at_Last.cfg: DiD S10: restore old (slightly modified) behavior for keeping Volk in-castle http://git.io/vJLgv
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20150430 05:20:33< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/60644462
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20150430 05:41:19< zookeeper> bumbadadabum, btw, most of the prisoners in mal-ravanal's capital are now out in the open where they are much more likely to ZoC-block your units and stuff.
20150430 05:41:37< zookeeper> ( http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=584630#p584630 )
20150430 05:42:28< zookeeper> in the old one they were specifically surrounded on all sides by swamp (well, one sand hex for one of them, too...) because of that
20150430 05:44:27< zookeeper> also because of team_name=wesnothians,undead apparently you can attack them
20150430 05:46:20< zookeeper> sometimes the oldest hacks work best :p
20150430 05:54:55< zookeeper> correction: the placement was not to prevent ZoC-blocking, because the old code didn't allow them to ZoC-block. it was just to make it less common to have your units running around adjacent to them.
20150430 06:16:49< vultraz> they shouldn't have two team names
20150430 06:16:50< vultraz> in fact
20150430 06:16:57< vultraz> they should just do what NR does
20150430 06:17:02< vultraz> (I never thought I'd say that)
20150430 06:17:12< vultraz> but just have [item] with the unit image and the cage blitted
20150430 06:17:16< vultraz> then create a unit when you move there
20150430 06:17:26< vultraz> unless the units are meant to be useful caged
20150430 06:17:30< vultraz> or speak dialog
20150430 06:18:21< zookeeper> i made them units so you can actually see their traits and whatnot beforehand
20150430 06:18:31< zookeeper> since that might factor into your morbid decision on who to save :p
20150430 06:18:47< vultraz> hmmm
20150430 06:18:56< vultraz> true, that is a point
20150430 06:22:05< zookeeper> and yes, the paladin speaks in the intro too
20150430 06:22:17< vultraz> ok
20150430 06:22:47< zookeeper> errm no
20150430 06:22:54< zookeeper> only when you free one
20150430 06:23:08< vultraz> why does it have team_name=wesnothian,undead 
20150430 06:24:24< zookeeper> ask bumbadadabum
20150430 06:24:32< vultraz> ok
20150430 06:24:45< vultraz> bc it sounds to me, if we remove the undead team from the paladins
20150430 06:24:50< vultraz> the zoc problem should go away
20150430 06:25:12< zookeeper> yes but i presume he thought that it'd prevent either side from attacking them
20150430 06:25:18< zookeeper> or them attacking either side
20150430 06:25:57< zookeeper> i'm not even sure what the behavior should be in that case, maybe it's a bug or maybe not
20150430 06:26:39< vultraz> hm...
20150430 06:27:43< vultraz> you can set the ai to not attack them
20150430 06:27:50< vultraz> and their ai to not attack if you want
20150430 06:27:52< vultraz> but i think
20150430 06:27:57< vultraz> nvm yeah
20150430 06:28:13< vultraz> they shiuldn't attack, they're caged :P
20150430 06:28:15< vultraz> shouldn't*
20150430 06:28:20< zookeeper> i think it's better to use something that makes it actually impossible to happen (such as the original side-switching hack)
20150430 06:28:37< vultraz> ugh
20150430 06:28:39< vultraz> hacks
20150430 06:28:40< vultraz> ._.
20150430 06:29:01< vultraz> really, can't we just set the ai to avoid side 6 like the plague?
20150430 06:29:01< zookeeper> well frankly that doesn't even qualify as a hack in my mind, it's just business as usual
20150430 06:30:14< zookeeper> a single event with simple code, simple function and very easy to read and understand isn't much of a hack
20150430 06:31:00< zookeeper> _some_ people just seem to think that anything that the engine doesn't provide explicit direct support for is a hack which must be purged whenever possible
20150430 06:31:49< zookeeper> ...ignoring the fact (?) that usually the old "hack" was tried and tested, and the new "right" way is buggy :p
20150430 06:32:31< vultraz> ok, ok, the DiD thing was bad ._.
20150430 06:32:37< vultraz> I misunderstood the functionality
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20150430 13:18:27< vultraz> shadowm: would it be acceptable to backport the new dummy/barrel/cloak images to 1.12? the dummy really sucks there....
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20150430 16:14:39< zookeeper> bumbadadabum, ^ read the logs
20150430 16:14:56< vultraz> i showed him already
20150430 16:15:00< zookeeper> oh
20150430 16:15:32< bumbadadabum> zookeeper: I assumed having 2 teams would make the units have no zoc for either team
20150430 16:15:35< bumbadadabum> not a zoc for both
20150430 16:16:23< bumbadadabum> since they're supposed to be treated as allies to both
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20150430 16:18:57< zookeeper> that's what i said i assumed you assumed :p
20150430 16:19:17< zookeeper> well, almost
20150430 16:19:35< bumbadadabum> honestly it seems like a bug
20150430 16:19:45< bumbadadabum> it seems to check for "another team" and not "not on your team" for the zoc
20150430 16:20:09< bumbadadabum> whereas it does look for "not on your team" for the attacking
20150430 16:25:42< vultraz> if ( u  &&  current_team.is_enemy(u->side())  &&  u->emits_zoc() )
20150430 16:27:37< vultraz> yeah, it does check enemy 
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20150430 16:45:21< irker698> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth:master 743e16865e68 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/04c_Mal-Ravanals_Capital.cfg: EI: oops http://git.io/vJYl6
20150430 16:45:40< bumbadadabum> zookeeper: problem was something else
20150430 16:45:46< bumbadadabum> I changed the team name in side 1 but not side 6
20150430 16:46:22< zookeeper> oh, right
20150430 16:46:40< bumbadadabum> having multiple teams works perfectly
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20150430 17:12:55< irker698> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth:master e3122f148b00 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/ (scenarios/09_Xenophobia.cfg utils/schedule.cfg): EI: More updates to S9 http://git.io/vJYwV
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20150430 19:17:30< zookeeper> eh. i played an auction-x on 1.12.2, and after i killed an enemy side's leader and they left, i droided that side (not immediately afterwards), but now another unit has the leader crown
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20150430 19:24:56< zookeeper> ...and they can recruit, too
20150430 19:24:59< zookeeper> what madness is this
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20150430 19:29:40< zookeeper> when playing back the replay, a lot of seemingly random units don't have ellipses
20150430 19:31:19< iceiceice> zookeeper, bumbadadabum: no, i think having multiple teams is broken now
20150430 19:31:42< iceiceice> thunderstruck didnt understand about the feature when he implemented mp connect engine, he assumes each side has one team
20150430 19:31:44< bumbadadabum> it works in EI S4c
20150430 19:31:51< zookeeper> ohh, wait, i didn't kill the leader after all. i mistook it for another unit of the same type which switched places with it, duh.
20150430 19:32:20< iceiceice> i would expect that with the mp sp unification you would get bugs like "team = undead, konrad" to be interpretted as a third team called "undead, konrad"
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20150430 19:33:17< bumbadadabum> iceiceice: they have the blue orb with "good,undead"
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20150430 19:33:47< iceiceice> so it might be somewhat inconsistent between mp and sp,
20150430 19:33:54< iceiceice> i dont actually know fi the connect engine runs before sp scenarios
20150430 19:34:09< iceiceice> but in mp thats what i would expect to happen
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