--- Log opened Tue May 19 00:00:11 2015
20150519 00:10:44< matthiaskrgr_> have you seen this http://lpaste.net/4828955078058573824 ? 
20150519 00:12:25< shadowm> Yep, just checked that it gets a few privileges a process normally doesn't get.
20150519 00:12:37< shadowm> Including SeImpersonatePrivilege.
20150519 00:14:01< shadowm> matthiaskrgr_: What compiler is this?
20150519 00:14:10< matthiaskrgr_> gcc 5.1.1 
20150519 00:14:26< matthiaskrgr_> 01:08 < matthias_> [01:49:28] hi, it seems build is broken with gcc 5.1.1 under fedora 
20150519 00:14:29< matthiaskrgr_> 01:08 < matthiaskrgr_> [01:50:20] http://lpaste.net/4828955078058573824  
20150519 00:14:31< matthiaskrgr_> 01:08 < matthiaskrgr_> [01:51:24] at c6d6114a8c80f8080252d679a82ec2c24491c3ae  
20150519 00:14:37< shadowm> I must've missed that.
20150519 00:15:49< shadowm> Do you happen to know what needs to be changed to silence the warning?
20150519 00:16:21< matthiaskrgr_> not really
20150519 00:16:35< matthiaskrgr_> one could remove the -Werror flags instead though 
20150519 00:17:04< shadowm> -DENABLE_STRICT_COMPILATION=OFF with cmake or strict=false with scons, yes.
20150519 00:17:37< shadowm> Unfortunately, I don't have gcc 5.1 yet and I'm the only "active" developer on Linux at the moment. Could you perhaps file a bug report?
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20150519 00:18:05< shadowm> (I intend to install it at some point before the month ends.)
20150519 00:18:59< matthiaskrgr_> hm, if I manage to handle the bugtracker... 
20150519 00:19:21< matthiaskrgr_> where do I open a new ticket? 
20150519 00:19:42< matthiaskrgr_> ah found it 
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20150519 00:23:31< matthiaskrgr_>  https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?23601  there we go 
20150519 00:24:22< shadowm> Pass -DENABLE_STRICT_COMPILATION=OFF to cmake to disable treating warnings as error.
20150519 00:24:25< shadowm> s.
20150519 00:25:30< matthiaskrgr_> I can't try right now, sorry, I was in the process of setting up a new system and played around with it, and the clone has been wiped already 
20150519 00:25:47< matthiaskrgr_> but I can try to give it a shot tomorrow, if I don't forget
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20150519 00:27:05< matthiaskrgr_> 02:28 < matthiaskrgr_> I can't try right now, sorry, I was in the process of setting up a new system and played around with it, and the  clone has been wiped already 
20150519 00:27:08< matthiaskrgr_> 02:28 < matthiaskrgr_> but I can try to give it a shot tomorrow, if I don't forget
20150519 00:27:14< shadowm> Yes, I read that, don't worry. :)
20150519 00:29:34< shadowm> > Need to get 83.7 MB of archives.
20150519 00:29:50< shadowm> I guess I could install gcc 5.1 right now without doing the full 1 GiB upgrade.
20150519 00:30:28< shadowm> Right now = in a few hours.
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20150519 01:16:41< groggy_> i've been wondering if maybe we shouldn't just get rid of the option to install userdata in the Wesnoth directory for 1.13/14
20150519 01:17:31< groggy_> i thought it was added because of the filename encoding issue, which has supposedly been solved with boost
20150519 01:17:58< shadowm> I think one or more Windows devs preferred it for some reason but I wouldn't be opposed to dropping it either.
20150519 01:18:04< groggy_> and now that Windows has its "virtual store", it just creates more confusion
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20150519 01:18:37< shadowm> Yeah, by all means, Windows just shouldn't allow us to write into PFiles and get away with it now in 2015.
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20150519 01:19:24< groggy_> it would break all those addons that are still using userdata/ in paths
20150519 01:19:27< shadowm> But since this is Microsoft we are talking about, there's just too much interest in allowing legacy applications to work.
20150519 01:19:49< shadowm> Add-ons should not use userdata/ in paths anywhere.
20150519 01:20:25< shadowm> All paths are relative to data/, so if they are referring to one of its parents and that works somehow, that'd be a bug we should fix, regardless of whether it breaks any add-ons or not.
20150519 01:20:31< groggy_> we might lose some of those addons, but maybe the authors will finally figure out that they shouldn't be doing that
20150519 01:20:59< shadowm> So, how do add-ons refer to userdata/ on Windows?
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20150519 01:22:12< groggy_> well, if you chose to install userdata in the Wesnoth directory, those paths will work
20150519 01:23:00< groggy_> of course, they'd work for everybody if you didn't have "userdata/...", but those authors don't realize that
20150519 01:23:34< groggy_> it works for them, they don't know why it doesn't work for everybody
20150519 01:23:56< groggy_> fortunately, there aren't as many of those add-ons around as there used to be
20150519 01:24:19< shadowm> Does wmllint warn about referring to userdata?
20150519 01:24:20< un214> probably, "../userdata"
20150519 01:24:29< groggy_> and we've gotten rid of some faulty wiki documentation that encouraged it
20150519 01:24:45< shadowm> We can easily blacklist userdata from WML file path resolution.
20150519 01:24:57< un214> I once felt like writing a campaign where there were two critical files, with names differing only in case
20150519 01:25:18< un214> got tired of fixing everybody's campaigns
20150519 01:25:25< groggy_> yes, it even corrects the paths... but those authors probably don't know how to run wmllint either
20150519 01:25:25< shadowm> And yeah, I forgot that userdata lives next to data, so {userdata/} instead of {~userdata/} will certainly work. :\
20150519 01:26:19< shadowm> If you could file a bug report about it I might look into having the fs API fail to resolve userdata/.
20150519 01:26:31< shadowm> For 1.13.1, I mean.
20150519 01:27:16< groggy_> in fact, my pull req commit to correct userdata/ paths was one of the ones that helped me earn dev rights
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20150519 03:27:10< shadowm> AI0867: WesCamp situation?
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20150519 09:14:11< Elvish_Hunter> Hi all
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20150519 13:04:02< AI0867> shadowm: ugh. I have a big backlog of stuff to merge, and not much time to do it in, which has resulted in me not even starting
20150519 13:04:58< AI0867> I started on the automization a while back (well before my 'wesbreak' started), but it's not done yet (and I haven't spent any real time on it recently
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20150519 19:29:29< gfgtdf> vultraz: do you use [object] no_write= anywere or was it a request from someone else ?
20150519 19:35:17< vultraz> I implemented it for my own use in my umc in 1.13
20150519 19:36:04< vultraz> gfgtdf: why?
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20150519 19:38:34< gfgtdf> vultraz: First because im wondering whether wesnoth.add_modification should also have this option, Second i wonder whether we should disallow adding animations this way. So i'd like to ask what your usecase is.
20150519 19:42:03< vultraz> Well, my main usage would be with new/remove_attack [objects]. My inventory system allows equipping and unequipping certain "weapons" ([attack]s like swords), so I use new/remove_attack to do that and then manually strip the [object]s with c74d's custom [remove_object] tag. no_write gets rid of the [object] stripping by never writing them in the first place
20150519 19:42:59< vultraz> (if I didn't strip the [object] tags related to the equip/unequip operations, the unit config would get bloated indefinitely)
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20150519 19:46:01< vultraz> wesnoth.add_modification() should probably have the option, yeah...
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20150519 20:15:35< Ravana_> does the no_write mean that object can be removed at custom time?
20150519 20:20:04< vultraz> No. It simply means it will not be written to unit.modifications, only the effect applied. There's no 'object' to remove unless you record its effect elsewhere
20150519 20:24:34< Ravana_> that sounds perfect, so that any unstore_unit to get rid of it?
20150519 20:30:50< vultraz> If you stored the unit before applying the effect, then yes, I would think you could unstore to 'revert' it
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20150519 20:33:36< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#463 (master - 8867769 : gfgtdf): The build is still failing.
20150519 20:33:36< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/63230271
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20150519 20:53:16< Ravana_> will test once that version is available
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20150519 21:41:17< shadowm> AI0867: Yeah, and people have complained. Wouldn't it be better to delegate some tasks to someone else? Maybe vultraz would like to help.
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20150519 22:17:27< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/63244005
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20150519 22:39:43< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/63244766
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20150519 22:58:15< irker770> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 02fe6ca39b1e / src/replay.cpp: remove unused code http://git.io/vT8j6
20150519 22:58:15< irker770> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 0c5c72b146a0 / src/ (replay.cpp replay.hpp): simplify replay::undo_cut http://git.io/vT8jP
20150519 22:58:15< irker770> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master cd756b74db9a / src/synced_commands.cpp: ignore [allow_undo] in wml menu items http://git.io/vT8jX
20150519 22:58:16< irker770> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 138f7c92c4f3 / src/ (18 files in 2 dirs): refactor undo_action class http://git.io/vT8jD
20150519 22:58:20< irker770> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 58228b5d28e4 / src/actions/undo.cpp: clear the redo stack when toggeling shroud updates http://git.io/vT8jQ
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