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with, but I assume it was one of the two of you. (If not, sorry for the bother.) 20150525 14:14:55< mattsc> So, anyway, in one of my campaigns, I have a scenario where units get created at the beginning of the the scenario with the [unit] tag. Later those units get put onto the recall list of the side, and a few turns later the AI starts recalling those units. (The side is originally human controlled, but I don’t think that matters.) 20150525 14:15:42< mattsc> In the replay, those units have a different underlying_id (and therefore id) when they get created, and thus the replay goes OOS (trying to recall a non-existent unit). 20150525 14:17:03< mattsc> As far as I can tell, what I am doing there is entirely legitimate WML use, so I would consider this an engine bug. 20150525 14:17:41< mattsc> I also don’t think that there is anything I can do to make this work if I want the AI to recall those units (other than maybe writing my own recalling units event in WML). 20150525 14:20:22< mattsc> Anyways, as usual lately, I can’t hang around here, but I’ll check the logs later and can come online again sometime if needed… 20150525 14:20:25-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: Not here much atm. Will check logs for my nick and forum PMs.] 20150525 14:41:18-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B009B16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 14:56:00-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 14:56:27< mattsc> I forgot to say: that’s with Wesnoth 1.12.2+dev 20150525 14:56:33-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Client Quit] 20150525 14:59:11-!- [Relic] [~Relic]@2602:306:33a3:6d30:4c29:f4c3:3b96:1268] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 15:21:45-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20150525 15:34:18-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 15:44:40-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 16:22:59-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 16:36:56-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150525 17:07:47-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054130131.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 17:10:46< gfgtdf> mattsc: yes we had that discussion about putting unit to recall list causing OOS, i tried to fix in in 1.13 but in 1.12.x nothing happened yet. Also i think the 1.13 fix is not complete and i wouldnt be surprised if there were still cases where you'd still get oos. 20150525 18:16:51-!- kex [~kex@31.11.67.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150525 18:17:17-!- kex [~kex@31.11.67.182] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 18:27:17-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 18:30:36-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 18:31:03< mattsc> gfgtdf: okay, thanks — I’m glad that I did not just imagine that 20150525 18:31:32< mattsc> So do you think that this is something that will get fixed in 1.12 in practice, or should I work on the WML workaround? 20150525 18:32:18< gfgtdf> mattsc: im currently not planning on fixing that for 1.12 20150525 18:32:31< gfgtdf> mattsc: specially becasue in not really happy with my 1.13 fix 20150525 18:34:18< mattsc> gfgtdf: okay, fair enough. Thanks. (The workaround is not all that hard to do. Well, it’s not really difficult at all, I even have all the bits of code I need for it already in use somewhere else, it just takes a bit of testing to make sure it works in all cases.) 20150525 18:35:16< gfgtdf> mattsc: note that rhis is not an ai spcific bug, it cn also happen when humans recall units 20150525 18:35:59< mattsc> gfgtdf: yes, I am aware of that (but thanks for confirming) 20150525 18:36:44< gfgtdf> mattsc: what you could do is to set the unit id independent of the underlying id 20150525 18:36:57< gfgtdf> mattsc: whe ncreating those units 20150525 18:37:50< mattsc> gfgtdf: Ah, yes. D’uh! And I think that even works easily in that particular scenario. 20150525 18:38:55< mattsc> gfgtdf: thanks for making me feel stupid ;) 20150525 18:45:11< mattsc> gfgtdf: actually, it applies to units recruited in the scenario too, not just those put on the map using [unit], doesn’t it? 20150525 18:45:27< mattsc> But that’s not hard to fix either. 20150525 18:45:33< gfgtdf> mattsc: yes it does 20150525 18:46:49< mattsc> okay, thanks for reminding me of all this … 20150525 18:59:41-!- kex [~kex@31.11.67.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150525 18:59:47-!- kex [~kex@31.11.67.182] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 19:02:12-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150525 19:04:34-!- hay207 [~haythamme@41.34.30.4] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20150525 19:34:59-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20150525 19:45:59-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: Not here much atm. 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