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20150512 09:19:17< hay207> hello
20150512 09:19:38< hay207> how to add a comment to cfg files?
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20150512 09:23:24< Soliton> # comment
20150512 09:23:52< hay207> not /* ?
20150512 09:24:16< hay207> ok thanks
20150512 09:26:43< hay207> so this is in perl
20150512 09:28:24< Soliton> cfg files are not in perl, no.
20150512 09:28:28< hay207> In what language the cfg files are written
20150512 09:28:35< Soliton> WML
20150512 09:28:56< hay207> so i can't highlight the syntax
20150512 09:29:05< Soliton> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WML
20150512 09:29:21< hay207> yes
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20150512 09:49:15< groggy_> hay207: only kate has wml highlighting built-in, but highlighting can be added to most editors
20150512 09:49:33< groggy_> hay207: there is also an eclipse plugin
20150512 09:51:06< hay207> ok
20150512 09:51:10< hay207> thanks
20150512 09:52:46< hay207> it has for WML ?
20150512 09:52:53< hay207> or another language
20150512 09:53:03< hay207> snce wml is only for wesnoth
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20150512 09:53:49< groggy_> yep, kate has it for wml
20150512 09:54:59< hay207> ok downloading eclipse
20150512 09:55:06< hay207> i have code blocks
20150512 09:55:10< groggy_> though it doesn't handle a semi-colon in text properly
20150512 09:55:17< groggy_> kate, that is
20150512 09:55:33< hay207> not eclipse through plugin?
20150512 09:56:02< hay207> downloading eclipse
20150512 09:56:31< groggy_> http://eclipse.wesnoth.org/
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20150512 09:57:23< hay207> Awesome, that;s something good
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20150512 10:08:23< hay207> I am trying too create a 3p anl from orocia 
20150512 10:08:30< hay207> :)
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20150512 11:47:52< patwotrik> Is there a good way to list the observers of current game?
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20150512 15:36:47< hay207> Almost finished creating a anl map 3p from orocia
20150512 15:37:11< hay207> may be 3 more days or so
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20150512 18:10:17< Ravana_> going to try to write formula= unit filter to find if unit has weapon with special with defined id
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20150512 18:51:16< Ravana_> formula is extremely crashy..
20150512 18:51:32< celticminstrel> Is it?
20150512 18:52:10< Ravana_> any mistake and wesnoth is closed
20150512 18:53:24< Ravana_> wml tends to fail silently, lua show message, and formula crash
20150512 19:03:06< zookeeper> something for everyone!
20150512 19:05:41< celticminstrel> 9_9
20150512 19:08:45< Ravana_> I wonder if I even start correctly there... I assumed that unit contains keys(that I am able to use) and lists(tags)
20150512 19:25:53< Ravana_> ehhh
20150512 19:26:26< Ravana_> seems that standard unit filter wiki page is lacking
20150512 19:28:22< celticminstrel> ?
20150512 19:28:35< celticminstrel> How so?
20150512 19:30:06< Ravana_> it said that The unit filtered is an implicit variable in the call.
20150512 19:30:14< Ravana_> it is all right for keys
20150512 19:30:29< Ravana_> but to get anything from tags I had to use $this_unit.
20150512 19:30:46< celticminstrel> Tags?
20150512 19:30:54< Ravana_> like [attack]
20150512 19:31:13< celticminstrel> Oh, in formula=
20150512 19:31:29< Ravana_> yes
20150512 19:31:48< celticminstrel> I still don't quite understand what you're saying though.
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20150512 19:32:06< celticminstrel> You used $this_unit where?
20150512 19:32:15< Ravana_> 21:09	Ravana	going to try to write formula= unit filter to find if unit has weapon with special with defined id
20150512 19:32:20< Ravana_> formula="debug_float(loc,$this_unit.attack[0].damage)"
20150512 19:32:26< celticminstrel> Ah.
20150512 19:34:42< celticminstrel> I don't understand what it even means for the filtered unit to be an implicit variable.
20150512 19:34:51< zookeeper> uh... what does it say the implicit variable is if not $this_unit?
20150512 19:35:34< Ravana_> for keys you can just use it like formula="level <= 2"
20150512 19:35:43< zookeeper> oh. neat.
20150512 19:35:49< celticminstrel> Ah, I see.
20150512 19:36:11< celticminstrel> So what you're saying is that "attack[0].damage < 3" will not work?
20150512 19:36:19< Ravana_> yes
20150512 19:36:35< Ravana_> shows (null)
20150512 19:36:46< Ravana_> for attack[0].damage
20150512 19:37:01< Ravana_> I expect if you actually used it in formula wesnoth would just crash
20150512 19:37:03< celticminstrel> Hmm.
20150512 19:37:19< celticminstrel> What if you enclose the whole thing in square brackets...
20150512 19:37:25< celticminstrel> "[attack[0]].damage"
20150512 19:37:35< celticminstrel> Or maybe "[attack[0].damage]"
20150512 19:37:50 * celticminstrel is guessing based on something here: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/FormulaAI#Available_variables
20150512 19:39:04< celticminstrel> Maybe "[attack][0].damage"?
20150512 19:39:10< Ravana_> I don't think it will make anything better than with $this_unit
20150512 19:39:21< celticminstrel> Probably not.
20150512 19:39:29< Ravana_> going to try if I can find way to use it foreach attack now
20150512 19:39:52< celticminstrel> By using $this_unit you're getting it to substitute at the WML level, so that the FormulaAI engine directly sees the damage value.
20150512 19:40:34< Ravana_> this might even be better then.. to make sure data type is suitable
20150512 19:42:00< celticminstrel> Ah, wait a second.
20150512 19:42:12< celticminstrel> Maybe "attack[0]['damage']" might work?
20150512 19:42:24< Ravana_> I don't need damage actually
20150512 19:42:35< Ravana_> it was just suitable value to check if exists
20150512 19:42:45 * celticminstrel shrugs.
20150512 19:43:25< celticminstrel> Still, FormulaAI doesn't appear to support the dot syntax, so using square brackets to reference a sub-key might just work.
20150512 19:43:34< Ravana_> [attacks] has great potential
20150512 19:43:50< celticminstrel> It's completely different from what you're looking for, though.
20150512 20:11:20< Ravana_> I found way to use almost proper debug messages with formula - need to cause type error
20150512 20:11:50< Ravana_> now I know what data type I deal with here
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20150512 20:55:46< Ravana_> .... I give up
20150512 20:55:55< Ravana_> did with with [filter_wml] then
20150512 20:58:45< Ravana_> any idea how much slowdown could http://pastebin.com/Zv6Dxeax create? would it be noticable
20150512 21:03:35< zookeeper> as a ability/special filter? i wouldn't worry about it, unless you used a lot of similar things
20150512 21:08:32< Ravana_> if it somehow would start creating noticeable slowdowns, I could just revert it to use type= filter.. but I don't like having ability/special macros depend on external values
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