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20150601 00:21:22< gfgtdf> hm yes you should notify iceiceice about it.
20150601 00:21:26< gfgtdf> vultraz: ^
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20150601 00:21:41< vultraz> except iceiceice said he's no longer doing wesnoth work
20150601 00:22:42< gfgtdf> vultraz: hmm
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20150601 00:38:42< irker202> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master fb22da4a353a / data/gui/default/window/gamestate_inspector.cfg: gui2/tgamestate_inspector: Use monospace font scroll label for contents http://git.io/vk6Ym
20150601 00:38:45< irker202> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 1c21924b514e / data/gui/default/window/lua_interpreter.cfg: gui2/tlua_interpreter: Use monospace font scroll label for contents http://git.io/vk6YY
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20150601 00:45:29< shadowm> ancestral: Can you try to build again but add this line between lines 405 and 406 in font.cpp:
20150601 00:45:33< shadowm>     #error Hi
20150601 00:45:39< shadowm> (Yes, that's the line.)
20150601 00:46:38< ancestral> Rebuild with newest master?
20150601 00:46:45< shadowm> Doesn't really matter.
20150601 00:47:02< ancestral> (and those are spaces in front of the #)?
20150601 00:47:09< shadowm> Doesn't matter either.
20150601 00:47:15< ancestral> Okay
20150601 00:49:01< shadowm> gfgtdf: Re #23627, as a workaround you can use the alternate label-less slider variant.
20150601 00:49:38< shadowm> [slider] definition="minimal"
20150601 00:50:07< shadowm> I created it specifically because I couldn't figure out how to fix the bug when refurnishing the Chat Log dialog.
20150601 00:50:40< gfgtdf> shadowm: but then i must draw the label manually ?
20150601 00:50:50< shadowm> Of course.
20150601 00:50:56< gfgtdf> shadowm: you think that extra space was just created for that label?
20150601 00:51:18< shadowm> I think that's the conclusion I reached back then.
20150601 00:51:44< gfgtdf> shadowm: maybe we could just use less space? i dont think we have sliders with values >1000
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20150601 00:52:10< shadowm> I did try fixing it before.
20150601 00:52:44< gfgtdf> shadowm: hm ok 
20150601 00:52:57< gfgtdf> shadowm: ty
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20150601 02:49:17< shadowm> ancestral: So?
20150601 02:51:45< ancestral> font.cpp is in src, correct?
20150601 02:53:17< shadowm> Well, yes.
20150601 02:53:53< shadowm> Generally, when I refer to the source code it's always a path relative to src/.
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20150601 03:04:01< ancestral> shadowm: I’m building now, give me a little time
20150601 03:05:55< ancestral> shadowm: I got a build error
20150601 03:06:12< ancestral> User-defined Issue, “#error Hi”
20150601 03:07:05< ancestral> You wanted me to put it just before, or just after the #ifdef? (I put it on the line just after)
20150601 03:08:47< ancestral> shadowm: http://i.imgur.com/nWnJc5E.png
20150601 03:15:23< shadowm> ancestral: Good, I can keep blaming fontconfig then.
20150601 03:17:25< shadowm> Thanks.
20150601 03:17:44< ancestral> No problem, sorry it took a little while
20150601 03:17:55< ancestral> And thanks for trying some things out
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20150601 04:29:59< shadowm> ancestral: Want to test a more elaborate patch?
20150601 04:30:06< ancestral> Sure
20150601 04:31:03< shadowm> ancestral: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/poop/brute_force_ttf_reg.patch
20150601 04:31:12< shadowm> Then run Wesnoth with --log-info=font
20150601 04:31:16< ancestral> Nice poop
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20150601 04:32:44< shadowm> The reason I really want to get this working is that ultimately I want to drop SDL_ttf.
20150601 04:34:17< ancestral> Okay, applied
20150601 04:34:29< ancestral> Awesome
20150601 04:46:43< shadowm> fontconfig is absurdly stubborn even on Linux.
20150601 04:47:09< ancestral> shadowm: https://paste.ee/p/jymt4
20150601 04:47:27< shadowm> I finally figured out how to force it to process application-specific config, but it's interpreting the hintstyle value in a way that's incongruous with what it does system-wide.
20150601 04:47:30< ancestral> I got a segfault after that, but that’s because I need different libraries
20150601 04:47:50< shadowm> ancestral: Okay, and the visual result?
20150601 04:48:01< ancestral> Gotta grab those libs
20150601 04:48:32< shadowm> Well, the point of the patch is seeing if it'll use our DejaVu Sans copy instead of falling back to the system sans serif.
20150601 04:49:17< shadowm> Hm.
20150601 04:49:26< shadowm> Hey, the segfault wouldn't happen to be in the sound engine, right?
20150601 04:49:38< ancestral> I’m downloading it
20150601 04:50:19< ancestral> Segmentation fault: 11
20150601 04:50:19< ancestral> And let’s see
20150601 04:50:19< shadowm> That's just the signal number.
20150601 04:50:21< ancestral> I know
20150601 04:50:23< ancestral> libpango
20150601 04:50:45< shadowm> Okay, never mind then.
20150601 04:51:48< ancestral> sf servers seem to be getting slower
20150601 04:52:06< ancestral> Ugh I don’t feel like waiting an hour
20150601 04:52:33< shadowm> You can continue tomorrow if you want, there's no hurry.
20150601 04:52:57< ancestral> 8 minutes heck yeah
20150601 04:53:08< ancestral> These servers just appear so random
20150601 04:53:42< ancestral> shadowm: I have to redownload 1.13
20150601 04:53:55< shadowm> Uh? Why?
20150601 04:54:04< shadowm> Don't you have a clone of the repository?
20150601 04:54:23< ancestral> Yes, except it’s been destroyed 5 times from Sunday trying to figure out the font issues
20150601 04:54:44< shadowm> How do you destroy a repository doing that? :\
20150601 04:54:47< ancestral> And I deleted the dmg I put up since I was running desperately low on space
20150601 04:55:00< ancestral> “destroy” is the wrong word
20150601 04:55:09< ancestral> More like, stashed and dropped my changes
20150601 04:55:18< ancestral> I suppose I could have made my own branch
20150601 04:55:37< shadowm> I still don't see why you would need to clone it again.
20150601 04:56:08< shadowm> Unless you mean you polluted your master branch with unwanted local commits? Those can be easily dropped too,
20150601 04:56:11< ancestral> Normally I would have pushed my files up to the Mac Compile Stuff, but I’m not confident my libs work everywhere
20150601 04:56:40< ancestral> The lib binaries are only in the Mac Compile Stuff
20150601 04:57:14< ancestral> But not mine, because I didn’t put them up there. I suppose I could put another Mac Compile Stuff 10.10+ but I just wasn’t feeling confident enough
20150601 04:57:30< shadowm> I... still don't get how this results in having to re-clone the mainline repo.
20150601 04:57:40< ancestral> I’m not cloning the repo
20150601 04:57:44< ancestral> I’m downloading the 1.13 executable
20150601 04:57:54< ancestral> For the binary libraries/frameworks
20150601 04:57:58< shadowm> Oh. I thought you meant the branch.
20150601 04:58:08< shadowm> Since 1.13 is not a singular version.
20150601 04:58:29< ancestral> That’s why I’m talking about sf servers and their slowness
20150601 05:00:05< ancestral> Done
20150601 05:00:14< shadowm> Okay, so fontconfig won't use hintstyle=hintslight unless rgba!=none for some stupid reason, and this only happens in Wesnoth (?).
20150601 05:00:39< shadowm> But still, I appear to have secured a "fix" for bug #20337.
20150601 05:01:22< shadowm> Hopefully it doesn't break everything on Windows and OS X.
20150601 05:02:20< shadowm> OS X users in particular will probably hate me for this.
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20150601 05:15:01< ancestral> Hmm
20150601 05:15:04< ancestral> Still crashes
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20150601 05:15:24< ancestral> I suppose it’s possible what I wrote is causing the segfault
20150601 05:15:42< ancestral> I’ll have to take another look tomorrow
20150601 05:24:08< shadowm> Hm.
20150601 05:24:28< shadowm> I forgot this code is disabled on Windows.
20150601 05:25:15< shadowm> So there's pretty much no point in testing it there or attempting to un-hardcode disabling ClearType.
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20150601 05:32:30< irker263> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 5a557bfecaba / changelog fonts/fonts.conf players_changelog src/font.cpp: font: Provide our own fontconfig settings (bug #20337) http://git.io/vk6A9
20150601 05:34:36< shadowm> I think I broke my previous record of most bugs cited in a commit.
20150601 05:34:45< shadowm> *non-duplicate bugs
20150601 05:36:21< shadowm> ancestral: For tomorrow, here's the same patch rebased against 5a557bfecaba: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/poop/brute_force_ttf_reg_v2.patch
20150601 05:39:20< shadowm> BLARGH.
20150601 05:39:37< shadowm> I accidentally clicked rebuild instead of build in CB. >.<
20150601 05:39:55< shadowm> It's just one fileeeeeeee...
20150601 05:42:16< vultraz> Been there done that
20150601 05:42:18< vultraz> But you have 8 cores
20150601 05:42:21< vultraz> so it's like, what
20150601 05:42:23< vultraz> 5 minutes
20150601 05:42:27< shadowm> But the VM overhead.
20150601 05:43:35< shadowm> Also, they are 4 physical cores with 2 threads each, but the VM exposes only 1 thread per core.
20150601 05:44:44< shadowm> That took...
20150601 05:44:50< shadowm> 5 minutes 27 seconds, yep.
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20150601 05:47:30< vultraz> Meanwhile it took me 1 minute 29 seconds to rebuild and link that one file
20150601 05:48:07< shadowm> Is it a debug build?
20150601 05:48:17< vultraz> Yes
20150601 05:48:37< shadowm> Debug builds require way more RAM and if you don't have enough things will get paged out to disk.
20150601 05:48:48< shadowm> (Swap file.)
20150601 05:49:07< vultraz> I would build release but I don't think that's best for a dev, and also I don't know how
20150601 05:49:15< shadowm> shadowm@nanacore:~/src/wesnoth% du -sh build/debug
20150601 05:49:17< shadowm> 2.5G    build/debug
20150601 05:49:32< shadowm> The linker must be able to hold like 75% of that in memory at once.
20150601 05:49:49< shadowm> Are you using CodeBlocks too?
20150601 05:50:36< vultraz> Yes
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20150601 05:51:44< shadowm> See the box in the toolbar that says "Debug"?
20150601 05:51:59< vultraz> Yes
20150601 05:52:01< shadowm> Click on it, you should see "Release" in the dropdown list.
20150601 05:52:39< shadowm> Select that and rebuild. Just remember that this enables optimizations, which trades object size for CPU usage at build time.
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20150601 05:54:16< shadowm> I personally don't do debug builds unless I come across a crash or need to investigate something really complicated.
20150601 05:55:06< shadowm> The performance difference between -O0 and -O3 builds is way too big because all graphics operations are CPU-bound.
20150601 05:55:42< shadowm> And there's nothing more irritating for me than sluggish redraws.
20150601 05:55:54< vultraz> Didn't see any such thing under Debug... but did find it under Build -> Select Target -> Release
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20150601 15:16:20< irker202> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master ea3f1786bb5e / src/font.cpp: add brackets. http://git.io/vkXVt
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20150601 19:18:58< gfgtdf> hmm compilation fails but i dont know why.
20150601 19:20:30< gfgtdf> ok seems it is unrelated to wesnoth source (most likeyl i have accidently edited one of the boost mpl headers)
20150601 19:21:22< gfgtdf> now i have to find out which one :/
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20150601 20:04:27< shadowm> zookeeper: Re http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=585928#p585928 , that path is valid and will work.
20150601 20:04:56< shadowm> The reason people usually use this is to avoid using [binary_path] (e.g. in campaign menus).
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20150601 20:15:17< zookeeper> sure, i just didn't bother to check because he didn't give any reason why he's using it, and it can't be due to avoiding [binary_path] in that context
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20150601 20:25:46< Ravana_> is there reason why default factions list shouldn't be alphabetically ordered?
20150601 20:32:11< zookeeper> what list? the faction drop-down menu in game lobby?
20150601 20:39:35< gfgtdf> Ravana_: why just the default list ?
20150601 20:40:53< gfgtdf> Ravana_: also note, that sorting alphabeticly imples that the order is different for every language. Mqaybe there are reasons why people would want then to be teh same in very language
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20150601 20:45:06< Ravana_> good, didn't think of translations
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20150601 20:48:06< Ravana_> however since I don't use the translated strings as faction names that seems like needless bother..
20150601 20:48:38< gfgtdf> Ravana_: so you talk about your add on ?
20150601 20:49:03< gfgtdf> Ravana_: i thought by 'default factions' you meant the factions of the default era
20150601 20:49:18< Ravana_> yes, I intend to first sort eras(or their shows prefixes) and within each era factions too
20150601 20:49:32< Ravana_> I did mean that
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20150601 21:35:20< gfgtdf> shadowm: you now made a plan about whether you will revert spmp patch ?
20150601 21:35:28< shadowm> No, I haven't.
20150601 21:36:06< shadowm> I emailed RiftWalker on Saturday and haven't heard back yet.
20150601 21:37:48< shadowm> So I'll probably do some patch analysis this Wednesday to decide what to do next.
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20150601 22:21:31< shadowm> Wasn't there a bug filed for the issue where unit bars sometimes disappear during repalys?
20150601 22:21:35< shadowm> replays
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20150601 22:40:19< shadowm> Argh, I can't find it and I'm sure it exists.
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20150601 22:54:00< shadowm> I even remember commenting on it.
20150601 22:57:01< shadowm> vultraz: Why did you assign #23625 to me?
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20150601 23:25:23< gfgtdf> shadowm: I curently dont know of it
20150601 23:33:46< gfgtdf> shadowm: or you mean this: http://gna.org/bugs/index.php?22628 which is about replays assuming side 1 to be teh human side
20150601 23:35:36< shadowm> That's it, iceiceice's comment: "The only oddity I was able to generate with the replay viewer is that, when using "full map" view you might not get any orbs sometimes"
20150601 23:36:46< shadowm> I remembered it as a separate bug, not a tangent in another, but I figure that's just my memory acting up as usual.
20150601 23:39:06< vultraz> shadowm: since you mentioned you might know the cause and I was discussing it with you
20150601 23:41:01< shadowm> When?
20150601 23:41:18< gfgtdf> shadowm: i just tested an i coudnt observe  bug in when selecing "full map"
20150601 23:42:35< vultraz> when i first brought it up in your channel
20150601 23:43:28< gfgtdf> shadowm: when using "full map" the orb colors from the currently active side. And by default enymies have no orbs
20150601 23:43:32< shadowm> gfgtdf: I just know I saw the bug several times right now.
20150601 23:44:00< shadowm> Except that I prefer to look at it as bars+ellipses than orbs since orbs are context-depedant as you say.
20150601 23:44:26< gfgtdf> shadowm: so bars are also sometimes not drawn ?
20150601 23:44:27< shadowm> This on MP join replays with Quick Replays enabled.
20150601 23:44:56< shadowm> Yes, though they are restored on a per-unit basis as attack or movement animations play.
20150601 23:45:36< gfgtdf> shadowm: so you say this only happens when jpining mp ?
20150601 23:45:40< gfgtdf> joining*
20150601 23:45:57< shadowm> Or, for units in the currently playing side if you click on them (playing their select animation).
20150601 23:46:16< shadowm> gfgtdf: I can't say it only happens then, because I'm pretty sure I also saw it happen with SP replays before.
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