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20150610 06:46:52< hay207> Best organized code i have seen in ANL is ANL classic
20150610 06:47:15< hay207> Hi all, i want to understand map code
20150610 06:47:29< hay207> if opened by a text editor
20150610 06:48:22< hay207> what is Uu^Uf?
20150610 06:48:39< hay207> i understand terrain codes
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20150610 07:00:09< hay207> sorry explanation in there http://wiki.wesnoth.org/TerrainCodesWML
20150610 07:04:14< Ravana_> you can just enable seeing terrain codes in map editor
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20150610 07:07:28< hay207> ok ravana
20150610 07:09:26< Soliton> gfgtdf: looks like the server just checks if the command has a from_side attribute and the client regardless, so it's not exactly the same. if the server were to be made to always check then i agree that it'd be better to only check on the server side.
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20150610 09:59:00< hay207> Guys, i want to file a complain
20150610 09:59:33< hay207> there's so little difference between shallow and deep water
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20150610 10:00:18< hay207> Sometimes i get mistaken between them
20150610 10:01:48< zookeeper> i think the difference depends a lot on which variety of shallow/deep water is used (tropical, gray, third)
20150610 10:02:13< zookeeper> some combinations ought to be harder to distinguish than others, so partly you can blame the map author :J
20150610 10:02:40< zookeeper> in any case, sure it'd be nice if the shallow and deep had a more visible difference in their wave patterns etc
20150610 10:02:49< gfgtdf> Soliton: no i didnt mean that i mean that is_legel_command should filter out commands that dont come from the currently playing side (regardless of from_side) (this check https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/57ae45387a4dc83a38b550ed6d7f124285374287/src/server/game.cpp#L848)
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20150610 10:03:18< zookeeper> in fact that seems like something i could possibly do... will have to think about it
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20150610 10:09:10< hay207> ok thanks, what i mean is that in maps prepackeged in game, the terrain was better distinguished in 1.10
20150610 10:13:22< hay207> i mean fort flat shallow water and deep water exactly
20150610 10:19:26< zookeeper> "fort flat shallow water"?
20150610 10:22:57< Soliton> gfgtdf: that check allows everything for the current player. it does not disallow everything for non-current players.
20150610 10:24:25< Soliton> gfgtdf: (we do want to allow chat anytime for example.)
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20150610 11:12:33< hay207> zookeeper, ford (flat,shallow water) and shallow water 
20150610 11:12:52< zookeeper> oh
20150610 11:12:57< hay207> those are the hexes that look similar
20150610 11:14:58< zookeeper> well, gray shallow water is very similar in color to ford, but to me the texture looks sufficiently different
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20150610 12:06:04< gfgtdf> Soliton: yes but everything exepct a few execptions returns false later. So specially we dont accept thing like move or recruit form non current player already. So i think the check i added is not needed
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20150610 12:16:11< Soliton> gfgtdf: well, no idea what 'is_player && command.has_attr("dependent") && command.has_attr("from_side")' for example all entails. sounds to me like if i send a move or recruit command with those attributes it'll go through.
20150610 12:17:34< Soliton> gfgtdf: independent of that though i agree with you that a server-side check is preferable.
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20150610 12:26:42< irker190> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 15698bbea6f5 / src/server/ (game.cpp game.hpp player_network.cpp player_network.hpp): make wesnothd::send_to_many( .., pred, ...)  a template http://git.io/vI6vY
20150610 12:26:42< irker190> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 6aa3b3bc9a92 / src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): don't check team names on serverside http://git.io/vI6vO
20150610 12:26:43< irker190> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 9e1aae1f795f / src/ (7 files in 4 dirs): inform the server about turn changes by wml http://git.io/vI6v3
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20150610 13:02:24< gfgtdf> Soliton: 'is_player && command.has_attr("dependent") && command.has_attr("from_side")' are user choices like advancement choiced or [get_global_variable]
20150610 13:02:54< gfgtdf> Soliton: the game will claim an OOS is things like [move] or [recruit] have deendent=yes
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20150610 13:08:23< vultraz_iOS> gfgtdf: how's the vision tristate going?
20150610 13:11:01< gfgtdf> vultraz_iOS: didnt wokr on it recelty. i have this pr: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/408/files which works execpt that the editor still has the share_view share_maps fielns in the "Edit side" dialog
20150610 13:13:28< vultraz_iOS> I can try to work on that once I get back in a week or so
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20150610 13:18:24< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#6606 (master - 9e1aae1 : gfgtdf): The build has errored.
20150610 13:18:24< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/66206814
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20150610 13:37:48< irker190> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master f290a865fc82 / src/server/ (game.cpp player_network.cpp player_network.hpp): fix compilation http://git.io/vI6za
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20150610 14:31:30< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#6607 (master - f290a86 : gfgtdf): The build failed.
20150610 14:31:30< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/66216825
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20150610 14:44:09< hay207> hi, is this a function defined in wml : "ADD_GOLD_SIDE" ?
20150610 14:44:59< Soliton> WML doesn't have functions. that's likely a WML macro.
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20150610 14:45:35< hay207> where can i search wml macros?
20150610 14:46:02< Ravana_> in your data and userdata
20150610 14:46:58< Soliton> yeah in your WML. predefined macros that come with wesnoth are listed here: http://www.wesnoth.org/macro-reference.xhtml
20150610 14:47:08< Ravana_> most are, but not all
20150610 14:47:48< Soliton> would be useful to know what is not covered there so it can be fixed.
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20150610 14:50:20< hay207> so i search my data directory then for that macro? it isn't in userdata
20150610 14:53:54< Ravana_> Soliton: like MENU_IMG_TXT and LOOT and NOT_ON_RECALL_LIST and UNREACHABLE
20150610 14:54:19< Ravana_> basically all that are without comment within macro definition as web page seems to be created by some script
20150610 14:55:06< hay207> i want to explain:
20150610 14:56:42< hay207> ADD_GOLD_SIDE and PLACE_IMAGE and PLAY_SOUND all have x={X} and y={Y}
20150610 14:57:01< hay207> in A new land classic addon
20150610 14:57:30< Soliton> Ravana_: would be cool to open a bug about that or make a patch so that the script lists those as well. the top of the page describes how to invoke the script.
20150610 14:57:47< hay207> so won't the x and y require to have a value somewhere
20150610 14:58:15< Ravana_> x and y are generally macro arguments when used like that
20150610 14:59:21< Soliton> if you have a question about how some WML works it'd be much easier to just post the complete WML and ask.
20150610 15:00:26< hay207> i somehow understand how wml works
20150610 15:01:27< Ravana_> I just tend to use grep whenever I encounter macro that I don't know, or just want to know where it is used
20150610 15:03:21< hay207> ok thanks ravana
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20150610 15:38:17< hay207> so a macro is written as #define ?
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20150610 15:52:03< Ravana_> that is what macro means yes
20150610 15:52:47< hay207> ok
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