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20150625 05:05:19< Necrosporus> There's a good manual on Lua 20150625 05:05:53< Necrosporus> It's just another programming language, quite like modern pascal 20150625 05:06:12< Afdal> is that something other modders have used to familiarize themselves with it :o 20150625 05:06:22< Necrosporus> Also for writing games in Lua you might try löve2d 20150625 05:06:52< c74d> Afdal: may be a good resource. 20150625 05:07:29< Afdal> oh yeah I tried checking that one out actually 20150625 05:07:29< Necrosporus> Afdal, I did not write in lua for wesnoth, but I have read the manual partially 20150625 05:07:38< Afdal> couldn't figure out where to start 20150625 05:07:59< Necrosporus> Do you know any other programming languages? 20150625 05:08:04< Afdal> yeah a few 20150625 05:08:18< c74d> Afdal: start here, I guess: 20150625 05:08:19< Afdal> LUA's syntax is kind of annoying 20150625 05:08:24< Afdal> compared to what I'm used to 20150625 05:09:05-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@118.187.21.63] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 05:09:39< Afdal> whelp 20150625 05:09:44< Afdal> all right then 20150625 05:09:47-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@118.187.21.63] has quit [Client Quit] 20150625 05:10:06< Afdal> was just hoping there might be a resource that teaches me only what I need to know for doing stuff in wesnoth 20150625 05:10:22< Afdal> thanks for the tips 20150625 05:23:24-!- [Relic] [~Relic]@2602:306:33a3:6d30:800f:f3db:dd56:aaf6] has quit [Quit: I press the magic X and all the weirdos go away!] 20150625 05:31:15< shadowm> Afdal: Lesson #1: Lua is not an acronym. 20150625 05:31:31< Afdal> o rly :0 20150625 05:31:57< shadowm> Yes, really. http://www.lua.org/about.html 20150625 05:32:21< shadowm> ""Lua" (pronounced LOO-ah) means "Moon" in Portuguese." [...] Please do not write it as "LUA", which is both ugly and confusing, because then it becomes an acronym with different meanings for different people. So, please, write "Lua" right! " 20150625 05:33:35-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150625 05:38:54< celticminstrel> Afdal: The thing is, for doing stuff in Wesnoth, you need to know most of the basics that a general tutorial would give you anyway; and those basics that are not essential for working in Wesnoth will still be useful. 20150625 05:39:54< Afdal> o-okay 20150625 05:40:29< Afdal> ehhh dunno about generally useful 20150625 05:40:39< Afdal> I'd rather get stuff done in other programming languages :) 20150625 05:40:55< Afdal> I think Factorio uses Lua scripting though 20150625 05:41:04< Afdal> maybe I'll find a reason to use it in that some day 20150625 05:41:21< celticminstrel> I'd say at least the first nine bullet points on that tutorial directory page would be good to know. 20150625 05:41:28< ancestral> Lua is fairly popular in modern programming 20150625 05:41:36< Afdal> thanks celticminstrel 20150625 05:41:42< ancestral> It’s certainly not a waste of time 20150625 05:42:07< celticminstrel> Maybe also take a look at the standard libraries near the bottom. 20150625 05:42:09< ancestral> But, you could make that argument about many languages 20150625 05:45:43-!- Appleman1234_ [~Appleman1@KD106149246204.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 05:48:43-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD106149242167.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20150625 05:48:49< celticminstrel> I like how Lua is like JavaScript. 20150625 06:00:47-!- Appleman1234_ is now known as Appleman1234 20150625 06:09:59-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has quit [Quit: #AncientBeast - Master Your Beasts ( www.AncientBeast.com )] 20150625 06:16:59-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD106149246204.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20150625 06:22:09-!- d347hm4n [~kde@host-87-242-212-53.ppp.onetel.net.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150625 06:29:13-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD106149246204.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 06:36:21-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@183.131.105.171] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 06:39:27-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! 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11:49:38< hay207> shouldnot be used inside [multiplayer] tag? 20150625 11:49:51< hay207> that's what i do 20150625 11:54:11-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@114.111.166.44] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 11:54:14-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@114.111.166.44] has quit [Client Quit] 20150625 11:55:15-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@114.111.166.44] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 11:55:58< Soliton> top-level tag means it is not under some other tag. 20150625 11:59:56-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@114.111.166.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150625 12:05:31-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-67-90-110.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20150625 12:15:49-!- Appleman1234_ [~Appleman1@KD106149232242.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 12:18:26-!- Appleman1234__ [~Appleman1@KD059136028092.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20150625 12:22:10-!- Appleman1234_ is now known as Appleman1234 20150625 12:46:35-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-67-90-110.dynamic.chello.pl] 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celticminstrel> Does that have any special effects? 20150625 17:23:12-!- Appleman1234__ [~Appleman1@KD106149252101.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 17:25:56-!- Appleman1234_ [~Appleman1@KD106149248071.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20150625 17:28:47-!- Appleman1234__ [~Appleman1@KD106149252101.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150625 17:33:38-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B0086C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150625 17:41:05-!- Appleman1234__ [~Appleman1@KD106149252101.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 17:52:50-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 17:53:55-!- shurnormal [~uxio@unaffiliated/ushiu] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 18:01:56-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20150625 18:02:52-!- husanu5 [~husanu5@5-12-36-106.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 18:03:19< c74d> AFAIK, it's the same as the more 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It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20150625 19:19:57-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 19:54:59< Afdal> so... 20150625 19:55:05< Afdal> What version of LUA does Wesnoth use? 20150625 19:55:20< Afdal> oh god I did it again 20150625 19:55:22< Afdal> I'm so sorry ._. 20150625 19:55:27< Afdal> "Lua" 20150625 20:09:05-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-67-90-110.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 20:16:11-!- JeDa is now known as ZoyJeDa 20150625 20:17:40-!- ZoyJeDa [JeDaYoshi@unaffiliated/jeda] has quit [Changing host] 20150625 20:17:40-!- ZoyJeDa [JeDaYoshi@unaffiliated/doggi] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 20:18:56-!- ZoyJeDa [JeDaYoshi@unaffiliated/doggi] has quit [Changing host] 20150625 20:18:56-!- ZoyJeDa [JeDaYoshi@unaffiliated/jeda] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 20:40:32-!- ZoyJeDa is now known as idontexist 20150625 20:40:39-!- idontexist is now known as JeDa 20150625 20:47:12-!- claymore2 [~hexchat@host86-185-16-226.range86-185.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 20:49:29-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B0086C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150625 20:52:31-!- Appleman1234__ [~Appleman1@KD106149252101.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150625 20:57:02-!- claymore2 [~hexchat@host86-185-16-226.range86-185.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20150625 21:04:48-!- Appleman1234__ [~Appleman1@KD106149252101.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 21:07:38-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 21:30:42-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 21:32:45< shadowm> Afdal: 5.3. 20150625 21:33:13< shadowm> Afdal: Okay, no, it's 5.2.3. 20150625 21:33:53< Afdal> o: 20150625 21:47:05-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150625 21:54:26-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 22:10:56-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150625 22:11:28-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 22:16:20-!- localuser- [~none@unaffiliated/localuser-] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 22:18:11-!- Panda_ [~IMO@2a01:e35:8aae:fcb0:a6fd:e761:fbcd:cbc2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150625 22:20:34-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150625 22:24:40-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 22:32:11-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Quit: Haldrik] 20150625 22:40:57-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150625 22:46:49-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 22:53:49-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-67-90-110.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20150625 22:56:03-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150625 23:03:51-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 23:13:30-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150625 23:14:20-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-76-206-248.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 23:33:17-!- Appleman1234__ is now known as Appleman1234 20150625 23:38:31-!- Samual [~Samual@xonotic/core-team/Samual] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20150625 23:44:31-!- Samual [~Samual@xonotic/core-team/Samual] has joined #wesnoth 20150625 23:53:36-!- Afdal [~IceChat77@host-174-45-178-216.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net] has quit [Quit: When the chips are down, well, the buffalo is empty] --- Log closed Fri Jun 26 00:00:35 2015