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20150628 11:30:20< zookeeper> ...what? 20150628 11:31:21< hay207> what is this player word 20150628 11:31:52< hay207> is it included in wml? 20150628 11:32:10< zookeeper> it's part of the name of the variable that that code is trying to reference 20150628 11:32:28< zookeeper> but no, whatever that variable is, it is not a built-in one 20150628 11:34:07-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@50-107-82-76.adr02.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150628 11:34:50-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@50-107-82-76.adr02.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 11:43:39-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 11:45:22-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@183.131.105.165] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 11:46:01-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@183.131.105.165] has quit [Client Quit] 20150628 11:47:10< hay207> ok, is {SIDE} a predefined macro? 20150628 11:47:27< hay207> can't find it here: http://www.wesnoth.org/macro-reference.xhtml 20150628 11:47:36< zookeeper> no, it's an argument for whatever macro that code is part of 20150628 11:48:56< hay207> so, i thought parenthesis are used only for macros 20150628 11:49:07< hay207> {} 20150628 11:50:05< zookeeper> you had never before seen a macro with arguments? 20150628 11:50:39< hay207> i saw {FOREACH} 20150628 11:51:11-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@183.131.105.165] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 11:51:24-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@183.131.105.165] has quit [Client Quit] 20150628 11:52:25< hay207> can you explain more how args are used in macros 20150628 11:52:48< hay207> or post a link 20150628 11:55:48< hay207> i saw arguments in http://www.wesnoth.org/macro-reference.xhtml but can args be surrounded with parenthesis? 20150628 11:55:52< zookeeper> it's incredibly simple: {SIDE} gets replaced by whatever is passed as that argument when calling the macro 20150628 11:56:26< zookeeper> you can wrap the arguments in a macro call in parentheses or quotes or both 20150628 11:56:40< zookeeper> and you must do either if the argument contains spaces, because obviously otherwise it'll think it's two arguments instead of one 20150628 11:57:04< hay207> ok cool 20150628 12:01:54-!- shadowm_desktop [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 12:07:40-!- Appleman1234_ is now known as Appleman1234 20150628 12:10:27< hay207> ok when to use dollar sign, and when to use parenthesis, 20150628 12:10:31< hay207> side=$side_number and side={SIDES} 20150628 12:13:26< zookeeper> {} are not parentheses, () are parentheses. {} are curvy brackets 20150628 12:13:49< zookeeper> you use the dollar sign to use the value of a variable 20150628 12:14:00< zookeeper> side_number is a variable, $side_number is the value of that variable 20150628 12:15:30< hay207> { } — braces 20150628 12:15:43< zookeeper> oh, looks like it's curly, not curvy. but yes, braces too 20150628 12:16:33< hay207> sorry for my confusion, my primary language is not english 20150628 12:16:43< Yaiyan> A symbol can have several names 20150628 12:17:06< Yaiyan> For non-'standard' symbols such as {}, that's definitely the case 20150628 12:18:16< zookeeper> in any case, braces and parentheses are never interchangeable in WML, so make sure you don't mix them up 20150628 12:28:34-!- hay207_ [~haytham@41.34.49.239] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 12:29:37-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150628 12:46:14-!- hay207_ [~haytham@41.34.49.239] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20150628 12:52:26-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 12:53:31-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B00896B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150628 12:56:47-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150628 13:08:35-!- patwotrik [~patwotrik@nl118-172-202.student.uu.se] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 13:37:25-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B00896B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 13:42:28-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 13:43:33-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Client Quit] 20150628 13:44:10-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 14:40:00< hay207> what's this symbol used for "|" ? 20150628 14:41:46< hay207> in here {VARIABLE side_{SIDE}_limited_recruits[$side_{SIDE}_limited_recruits_length|].type $unit.type} 20150628 14:42:47< celticminstrel> The | symbol closes off a $. 20150628 14:43:14< hay207> ok thanks 20150628 14:43:36< celticminstrel> If a $ doesn't have a matching |, it ends at word boundaries, I think. 20150628 14:43:57< celticminstrel> ...I don't think you can put spaces in $...| though - word boundaries mostly means "any other symbol". 20150628 14:47:08-!- Guest11485 [~JeDa@unaffiliated/jeda] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150628 14:52:17-!- hay207 [~haythamme@41.34.49.239] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20150628 15:13:40-!- [Relic] [~Relic]@2602:306:33a3:6d30:c4c7:cd5e:6883:9e15] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 15:19:47-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 15:32:13-!- Guest71154 [~cyphase@c-73-162-9-20.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150628 15:35:17-!- Guest71154 [~cyphase@c-73-162-9-20.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 15:41:28-!- shadowm_desktop [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20150628 16:55:44-!- Guest71154 [~cyphase@c-73-162-9-20.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: cyphase.com] 20150628 16:56:31-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 17:24:55-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 17:30:21-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: End Transmission.] 20150628 17:31:47-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@93-173-27-11.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Quit: I'm not back now.] 20150628 17:36:17-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@93-173-27-11.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 17:39:18-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B00896B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150628 17:56:31-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@cpe-74-136-81-20.kya.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 19:22:13-!- SpoOkyMagician_ [~chatzilla@cpe-74-136-81-20.kya.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 19:23:02-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@cpe-74-136-81-20.kya.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20150628 19:23:07-!- SpoOkyMagician_ is now known as SpoOkyMagician 20150628 19:59:43-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-76-206-248.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 20:22:19-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-76-206-248.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20150628 20:53:45-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@cpe-74-136-81-20.kya.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: gtg] 20150628 21:11:57-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 21:35:25-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 21:37:35-!- JeDa [~Dirigible@unaffiliated/jeda] has quit [Changing host] 20150628 21:37:35-!- JeDa [~Dirigible@unaffiliated/doggi] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 21:38:26-!- JeDa [~Dirigible@unaffiliated/doggi] has quit [Changing host] 20150628 21:38:26-!- JeDa [~Dirigible@unaffiliated/jeda] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 21:40:36-!- Panda_ [~IMO@2a01:e35:8aae:fcb0:a6fd:e761:fbcd:cbc2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150628 23:09:17< Yaiyan> People talk about UtBS as having too many surprises... 20150628 23:09:25< Yaiyan> Northern Rebirth :( 20150628 23:09:42-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc184bc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #wesnoth 20150628 23:11:42< shadowm> I know, right? 20150628 23:13:51-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc184bc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150628 23:15:18< Yaiyan> Still one of the best campaigns, if I can ever actually win it, heh 20150628 23:44:48-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20150628 23:47:31-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20150628 23:48:29-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc184bc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Mon Jun 29 00:00:39 2015