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20150705 06:18:49< ancestral> mattsc, shadowm: I’m stuck on an error with src/game_config_manager.cpp:105. The error I get is “No previous prototype for function ‘map_includes’
20150705 06:22:01< shadowm> Compiler?
20150705 06:22:45 * shadowm is getting a déjà vu feeling from this.
20150705 06:23:45< ancestral> Compiler
20150705 06:24:08< shadowm> That's shorthand for "compiler version and vendor".
20150705 06:24:13< ancestral> Oh
20150705 06:25:40< shadowm> What's that compiler on about? It's a standalone function.
20150705 06:25:58< ancestral> Apple LLVM 6.1
20150705 06:26:09< ancestral> One second
20150705 06:26:16< shadowm> Isn't that clang?
20150705 06:26:19< ancestral> Yes
20150705 06:26:25< shadowm> What clang version?
20150705 06:26:32< ancestral> Bah, lost the error
20150705 06:26:38< ancestral> Let me dig up the file
20150705 06:26:59< ancestral> bool map_includes(const preproc_map& general, const preproc_map& special)
20150705 06:27:07< shadowm> Incidentally, I built master with clang 3.6 yesterday and I didn't get any warnings.
20150705 06:27:17< shadowm> Yes, I have the code in front of me.
20150705 06:27:21< ancestral> Well, possibly it’s confused
20150705 06:27:36< ancestral> There are like 15 different lines asking for target version
20150705 06:27:38< shadowm> Can you try wrapping it in an anonymous namespace?
20150705 06:27:55< ancestral> Trying one more clean and build
20150705 06:27:56< shadowm> Add a line 'namespace {' before the function definition and '}' after it.
20150705 06:28:11< ancestral> Okay
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20150705 06:38:21< ancestral> shadowm: Alright, still failed, so I wrapped it in a namespace and it no longer fails
20150705 06:38:40< ancestral> Now campaign_server.cpp:97
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20150705 06:39:27< ancestral> Wait
20150705 06:39:48< ancestral> Never mind
20150705 06:40:11< ancestral> Use of undeclared identifier CLOCK_MONOTONIC
20150705 06:40:39< shadowm> #ifdef _POSIX_MONOTONIC_CLOCK
20150705 06:41:10< shadowm> How the hell does it get there? Anyway, you don't need (and in fact, must not) build campaignd for releases.
20150705 06:41:24< shadowm> (In fact, no-one but me should be building campaignd anywhere for that matter.)
20150705 06:41:43< ancestral> Okay, well
20150705 06:42:35< ancestral> I was attempting to add files which were missing since last build
20150705 06:42:45< ancestral> I see then
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20150705 06:44:27< irker468> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 48ffe53cfea1 / src/game_config_manager.cpp: Attempt to fix a "No previous prototype for function" error http://git.io/vqOGO
20150705 06:46:18< ancestral> Cleaning and recompiling
20150705 06:46:59< shadowm> Are you building 1.13.1 or master?
20150705 06:47:06< ancestral> 1.13.1
20150705 06:47:20< ancestral> I can double-check
20150705 06:47:36< shadowm> `git describe` :p
20150705 06:47:45< ancestral> Hmm
20150705 06:47:54< shadowm> It should say "1.13.1", not something like "1.13.1-8-g48ffe53".
20150705 06:48:21< ancestral> Ugh
20150705 06:48:22< ancestral> Okay
20150705 06:48:35< ancestral> I *swear* I moved into 1.13.1
20150705 06:48:39< ancestral> Apparently not
20150705 06:48:53< ancestral> Just as well I compile master at some point anyway
20150705 06:49:50< ancestral> 1.13.1-7-g4e7e00d
20150705 06:50:32< ancestral> Waiting for the build to finish before switching
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20150705 06:58:02< ancestral> warning: refname '1.13.1' is ambiguous.
20150705 06:58:48< shadowm> `git show 1.13.1`
20150705 06:59:00< shadowm> You should see a tag.
20150705 06:59:13< ancestral> warning: refname '1.13.1' is ambiguous.
20150705 06:59:13< ancestral> tag 1.13.1
20150705 06:59:32< shadowm> Then you probably just have a local branch that points to that tag or something.
20150705 06:59:44< shadowm> Which is weird, but whatever.
20150705 07:12:59< ancestral> Alright, I did a `git reset --hard` on 1.13.1. Got the sme error for game_config_manager.cpp. Wrap that line in ‘namespace’ and it builds successfully
20150705 07:17:32< ancestral> Launches after I swap out the Pango 1.8.0 .so modules
20150705 07:17:57< ancestral> I’ll post this up during my lunchtime tomorrow
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20150705 09:32:06< Elvish_Hunter> 20150704 20:50:14< shadowm> shadowm (Debian, Windows 8.1 VM), gfgtdf (Windows), zookeeper (Windows), vultraz (Windows), Elvish_Hunter (Windows and maybe Linux).
20150705 09:32:48< Elvish_Hunter> shadowm: I'm using both Windows 7 and Xubuntu 14.04
20150705 09:34:46< Elvish_Hunter> zookeeper, loonycyborg: I prepared the PR for UtBS: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/416
20150705 09:35:33< Elvish_Hunter> I implemented both your suggestions (sort units by level then experience, reset Garak's XP to zero at each turn)
20150705 09:35:34< shadowm> >:c
20150705 09:37:28< zookeeper> isn't [event] supported directly in SingleUnitWML now?
20150705 09:37:29< Elvish_Hunter> To do this, I had to code the ability in Lua (it was easier to use table.sort() rather than multiple [store_unit]s)
20150705 09:39:43< Elvish_Hunter> zookeeper: yes, it is. I never noticed it...
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20150705 09:44:14< Elvish_Hunter> Hmm... the wiki  says that [unit][event] is "inserted into every scenario where this unit is first created"
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20150705 09:45:10< Elvish_Hunter> Does this mean that, when a unit is recalled, its [event]s aren't injected into the scenario? It's unclear
20150705 09:47:01< zookeeper> i presume it means any scenario where the unit is created or recalled
20150705 09:47:14< zookeeper> as in, the event gets inserted when the unit appears in the scenario
20150705 09:47:41< zookeeper> "At the start of every turn, this unit loses all of their experience points and distributes them among adjacent lower-level friendly units." might be a better description, although i don't think your code does the lower-level check
20150705 09:48:15< zookeeper> looks like it only skips the unit if its level is higher
20150705 09:48:41< zookeeper> scratch that last one
20150705 09:48:42< Elvish_Hunter> No, it doesn't. It simply gives priority, when assigning the remainder points, to units with lower levels.
20150705 09:51:13< zookeeper> also it looks like garak still has an XP limit
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20150705 10:07:44< Elvish_Hunter> How should I remove his XP limit? Direct unit modification with [store_unit] doesn't seem to work for this purpose...
20150705 10:08:25< Elvish_Hunter> I remember that one I created a unit without XP limit by creating a unit type without the advances_to= key
20150705 10:08:52< Elvish_Hunter> I don't know is this still works, or if will work with [base_unit]
20150705 10:09:04< Elvish_Hunter> * if this
20150705 10:11:08< zookeeper> i don't know
20150705 10:16:11< zookeeper> shadowm, miraculously, it seems i've managed to implement the mod_x,mod_y location constraints
20150705 10:17:24< zookeeper> it'd maybe be a very rarely needed slightly oddball feature, but the code needed is very short
20150705 10:18:02< zookeeper> i'll make a PR at some point if i deem it worthy
20150705 10:19:27< Elvish_Hunter> Then it looks like I'll have some tests to do... In case that I don't manage to remove Garak's XP limit, it's OK if I just set it to 999?
20150705 10:20:43< zookeeper> that'd be better than the regular AMLA limit, yes
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20150705 10:42:35< Elvish_Hunter> OK, now I have to go. Bye!
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20150705 10:54:02< zookeeper> urgh, i forgot that i need to make a fork to make PR's...
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20150705 11:43:21< aquileia> zookeeper: It's written that way because if you clone the repo, the directory will be named external/
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20150705 11:44:49< zookeeper> what directory?
20150705 11:45:05< aquileia> Just saw your comment from yesterday
20150705 11:45:09< zookeeper> yes, i know
20150705 11:45:53< zookeeper> it was a rhetorical question
20150705 11:46:51< aquileia> The only thing that matters is that you use the paths to the actual dll/, include/ and lib/ subdirs, after all
20150705 11:47:51< zookeeper> well, i figured that out
20150705 11:47:57< zookeeper> the instructions are still wrong
20150705 11:52:02< aquileia> Ok, I'll try to reword it in a way that works for both the git clone and archive variants.
20150705 11:52:25< aquileia> Thanks for letting me know
20150705 11:53:55< zookeeper> oh, by repo you didn't mean wesnoth, but that some other repo which holds that stuff?
20150705 11:54:33< aquileia> yes, the aquileia/external repo
20150705 11:55:16< zookeeper> right, okay
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20150705 12:27:42< Kallikanzarid> hi all
20150705 12:28:50< Kallikanzarid> I got display scrolling to work on SDL 2, now working to port all graphics to ttexture so that I could use the renderer
20150705 12:28:54< Kallikanzarid> SDL_Renderer
20150705 12:29:35< Kallikanzarid> it shouldn't be too hard, we'll see if the horrible alpha modulation shows up in process
20150705 12:30:12< Kallikanzarid> unfortunately the SDL_Surface approach doesn't understand high DPI
20150705 12:30:34< Kallikanzarid> but porting to SDL_Renderer should give us high DPI support for free
20150705 12:31:09< Kallikanzarid> just a question, was lipk working in this exact direction before switching to sdl_GPU?
20150705 12:31:47< Kallikanzarid> it looks like it, but I also found evidence in the code that he didn't actually start removing SDL_surface from the equation
20150705 12:32:05< Kallikanzarid> or maybe I'm wrong, I don't understand the code base well yet
20150705 12:40:24< Kallikanzarid> I'll try to get by with SDL_CreateTextureFromSurface at first
20150705 12:40:46< Kallikanzarid> using an off-screen surface instead of the framebuffer for actual drawing
20150705 12:41:26< Kallikanzarid> it's taxing, but it's not qualitatively different from what I did a month ago in my demo, and the FPS should not suffer too much, I hope
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20150705 13:04:07< Kallikanzarid> BTW, you guys have serious cache locality issues
20150705 13:04:19< Kallikanzarid> std::map is a linked structure, and you use it all the time
20150705 13:04:46< Kallikanzarid> a custom hashmap with linear probing would improve performance a lot, especially on slower machines
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20150705 13:27:26< aquileia> zookeeper, gfgtdf: warning C4003: not enough actual parameters for macro 'BOOST_PP_EXPAND_I' <-- I can certainly try whether that issue was adressed in Boost 1.58, the issue was discussed on their mailinglist and they said they'd try a possible fix for 1.58
20150705 13:28:27< aquileia> I just had to update to 1.57 because wesnoth's master branch no longer compiled with 1.55
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20150705 13:34:02< aquileia> They released 1.58 just two weeks after I updated to 1.57? Bad luck, I guess...
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20150705 14:43:28 * vultraz pulls
20150705 14:48:02< vultraz> 13 mb
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20150705 15:55:38< irker155> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 89cc9ac49f6c / data/gui/default/window/campaign_dialog.cfg: tcampaign_dialog: remove excess borders http://git.io/vq3A6
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20150705 17:27:53< Kallikanzarid> I got the scaling to work properly!
20150705 17:28:18< Kallikanzarid> unfortunately, the input died and the performance is abysmal at high res
20150705 17:28:23< Kallikanzarid> still working on it
20150705 17:29:11< vultraz> Scaling?
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20150705 17:29:31< Kallikanzarid> High DPI support on retina MacBooks
20150705 17:30:01< vultraz> Does that include using the larger sized images in some cases?
20150705 17:30:26< Kallikanzarid> so far I just got it to use the full resolution instead of upsampling x2
20150705 17:30:42< Kallikanzarid> it's a big win for me considering how bad the codebase has become
20150705 17:31:15< Kallikanzarid> SDL wrappers should not try to encapsulate SDL calls, it leads to fragile interface, because there will always be that one call we didn't wrap
20150705 17:31:38< Kallikanzarid> I'm thinking about replacing them with just simple RAII wrappers
20150705 17:31:55< Kallikanzarid> to avoid really bad recompilation issues
20150705 17:32:05< Kallikanzarid> also, ttexture is unusable
20150705 17:32:28< Kallikanzarid> I don't know why lipk thought it's a good idea to overload this class with features
20150705 17:33:00< Kallikanzarid> but I had to use plain SDL_Texture just to avoid dealing with its complexities
20150705 17:33:41< vultraz> the codebase is indeed bad
20150705 17:34:07< Kallikanzarid> it's not how I expected a video game engine to work at all
20150705 17:34:16< Kallikanzarid> so much naive OOP it hurts
20150705 17:35:05< Kallikanzarid> I suspect we can achieve like 10% speedup by just replacing std::map with linear probing hash tables everywhere
20150705 17:38:22< vultraz> Well, we welcome any and all patches
20150705 17:38:42< shadowm> As long as you don't do like the last guy who decided to "optimize" everything.
20150705 17:39:38< Kallikanzarid> what happened last time?
20150705 17:39:55< Kallikanzarid> right now I'm focused on getting vanilla SDL 2 to work well
20150705 17:40:05< shadowm> I don't want to go into details because it's not a pretty story.
20150705 17:40:22< Kallikanzarid> so that we can remove SDL 1 support and clean up a bit
20150705 17:40:28< shadowm> Just saying that there's such a thing as over-optimizing things.
20150705 17:40:51< Kallikanzarid> well, right now I'm afraid it's the opposite extreme
20150705 17:41:29< Kallikanzarid> Wesnoth's claim of being portable is a plain lie because it's too slow for really old and underpowered devices
20150705 17:41:58< Kallikanzarid> and it shouldn't be, it's a 2d tile-based game with minimal overdraw
20150705 17:42:44< shadowm> It apparently runs on Android and iOS with most changes revolving around adapting the UI for small form factor devices.
20150705 17:43:27< Kallikanzarid> I'm not seeing it, unless it also upscales a lot
20150705 17:43:35< shadowm> As for old computers, I'm not concerned about that.
20150705 17:43:59< Kallikanzarid> okay, I don't mean to flame or anything
20150705 17:44:33< Kallikanzarid> I'm not going to be doing anything crazy with the codebase either
20150705 17:45:45< Yaiyan> Wesnoth runs fine on my 7+ year old netbook with some processor that was ridiculously cruddy even for the time...
20150705 17:47:29< Kallikanzarid> I guess it's the highres + low power combo that kills it then
20150705 17:47:40< Kallikanzarid> still very relevant today
20150705 17:48:27< shadowm> Easiest way to check is to get Yaiyan to hook up a 1920x1080 screen to that netbook and run Wesnoth fullscreen.
20150705 17:49:30< shadowm> That said, I'm not sure structure inefficiencies are that relevant for idle rendering?
20150705 17:49:46< Kallikanzarid> it depends
20150705 17:49:48< shadowm> Unless you have an absurd number of units on the map.
20150705 17:50:42< Kallikanzarid> the problem is that bad access locality can easily kill performance no matter what
20150705 17:50:51< shadowm> Yes, I understand the theory.
20150705 17:51:06< Kallikanzarid> and with std::maps littered all over the place, it's likely that it's happening
20150705 17:51:15< Kallikanzarid> don't understand the code enough to judge on that yet
20150705 17:51:36< shadowm> I'm more concerned about verifiable practical effects and identifying the culprits.
20150705 17:51:58< Kallikanzarid> yeah, although cache thrashing is hard to pinpoint with profiling
20150705 17:52:42< Kallikanzarid> because bad data structures-caused cache misses are often spread quite evenly
20150705 17:53:03< Kallikanzarid> at least that's what people keep telling me
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20150705 18:13:02< aquileia> shadowm: IIRC you removed the boost asio dependency from 1.13 but not 1.12, correct?
20150705 18:21:36< shadowm> aquileia: I didn't remove it.
20150705 18:22:30< shadowm> I think you are assuming that libana was the only code that depended on Boost.asio. That's not correct, because the add-ons client uses loonycyborg's Boost.asio client code.
20150705 18:23:43< aquileia> ok
20150705 18:28:08< Kallikanzarid> I have a question
20150705 18:28:37< Kallikanzarid> twindow documentation says we can't say if it should be a singleton yet
20150705 18:28:54< Kallikanzarid> but I need a window pointer when calculating mouse position
20150705 18:29:36< Kallikanzarid> I looked inside SDL and it can't distinguish between low dpi and high dpi by itself, I have to scale mouse coordinates myself
20150705 18:30:03< Kallikanzarid> it's a problem because currently get_mouse_position doesn't take any parameters
20150705 18:31:06< shadowm> "At the moment of writing it is not certain yet how many windows will be created. At least one as main window, but maybe the GUI dialogues will have their own window."
20150705 18:31:38< shadowm> This is my first time looking at this and I can only say it's a terrible idea. Just make it a singleton and let someone else retrofit support for separate windows later if needed.
20150705 18:33:12< shadowm> (Hint: it's not *needed*. It might be convienient for a few select windows like the Lua Console, but it's not *needed* nor feasible until GUI2 windows gain the ability to not monopolize the event loop.)
20150705 18:33:17< shadowm> *GUI2 dialogs
20150705 18:33:43< Kallikanzarid> okay
20150705 18:34:28< Kallikanzarid> would thread-safe singleton be an overkill?
20150705 18:35:14< shadowm> Right now, yes, because all rendering is done on the main thread since SDL 1.2 isn't designed to allow other threads to use surfaces and such (is SDL 2?).
20150705 18:35:30< Kallikanzarid> for now I'll just cache last created instance
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20150705 19:00:54< Kallikanzarid> sdl 2 still requires that the event loop is in the main thread, but accelerated rendering probably can be done in another thread
20150705 19:12:56< aquileia> zookeeper: I just updated external/VC12 to boost 1.58 which got rid of the C4003 warnings
20150705 19:13:11< zookeeper> cool
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20150705 19:38:27< Kallikanzarid> I got the main menu fully working
20150705 19:39:38< Kallikanzarid> but everything else goes around the src/gui/auxilliary/event/handler.hpp
20150705 19:39:46< Kallikanzarid> at least all dialogs do
20150705 19:40:18< Kallikanzarid> so I'll probably extract the mouse coordinates handling somewhere
20150705 19:40:51< shadowm> Beware of core/GUI1 vs. GUI2 event handling differences.
20150705 19:41:47< Kallikanzarid> maybe it's worth hacking SDL_Mouse?
20150705 19:42:08< Kallikanzarid> replacing the default Cocoa position extractor
20150705 19:42:24< Kallikanzarid> to avoid the pain
20150705 19:43:16< Kallikanzarid> other platforms don't have fractional coordinates so it's only one case, may be worth a try
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20150705 20:02:23< aquileia> zookeeper, gfgtdf, anonymissimus, timotei: Concerning Visual Studio, is it ok if I restrict the position of \external to the same directory as \wesnoth (as it would always be if you cloned both repos) ?
20150705 20:03:45< aquileia> I'd like to use ..\..\..\external from inside the projectfiles\VC* directory
20150705 20:06:13< aquileia> If you have no issues with that, I could get rid of step 4 in http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CompilingWesnothOnWindows#Visual_Studio_2010_and_later
20150705 20:43:47< aquileia> with 'restrict' I mean that if you place it somewhere else, you'll basically have to do step 4 to provide the correct paths
20150705 20:53:21< zookeeper> aquileia, "as it would always be if you cloned both repos"? if i clone your repo then how is that gonna be in the same directory as wesnoth?
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20150705 20:55:06< aquileia> Oops, sorry, no
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20150705 20:56:58< zookeeper> Ravana_, umm, what are you talking about? the guy was suggesting that healers should self-heal... that has nothing to do with forcing anything
20150705 20:57:36< aquileia> I forgot that you can put repos anywhere you want (I have a central git directory for that and foolishly overlooked that's not always the case)
20150705 20:57:49< Ravana_> said that all healing would include regen
20150705 20:58:42< zookeeper> yes... it's a stupid idea but has nothing to do with people doing stuff with events etc
20150705 21:05:15< aquileia> zookeeper: Do you think it's a viable trade-off to have it next to wesnoth\ if it saves the user a manual configuration step?
20150705 21:06:06< aquileia> As I said, you can still place it somewhere else, you just won't have the benefits
20150705 21:06:45< zookeeper> aquileia, uh, i dunno. can one have your close inside their wesnoth clone so that the files automatically end up in wesnoth/external/?
20150705 21:06:59< zookeeper> then you can just say that whatever method you use, make sure the files end up there
20150705 21:07:24< aquileia> If we add a gitignore rule, I think we could nest the repos
20150705 21:08:04< aquileia> In that case I'd use wesnoth/projectfiles/external, though
20150705 21:09:34< aquileia> My personal preference would still be next to wesnoth/, not inside wesnoth/
20150705 21:10:20< aquileia> mainly because I've already cloned it there and I'm lazy ;)
20150705 21:10:21< zookeeper> well, i can't imagine that being a problem for anyone on windows
20150705 21:11:02< aquileia> but also because e.g. GitHub for Windows will place all your repos in one parent dir
20150705 21:12:06< Ravana_> github for windows allows you to choose from where to look for the files, once you move them away from where they were before
20150705 21:13:32< zookeeper> i'd think that anyone who'd rather grab the files from your repo than from a provided .zip wouldn't have a problem with editing the dependency paths themselves
20150705 21:14:28< zookeeper> so as long as there's a predefined place to unzip that stuff so one doesn't need to edit the paths like currently... all good as far as i'm concerned
20150705 21:15:47< aquileia> If it weren't such a specific group of users, I think it'd be best to have a poll on where to place the external dir
20150705 21:17:32< aquileia> but I think it's only us two, gfgtdf, anonymissimus, timotei (?), and two forum members who posted MSVC related questions
20150705 21:18:35< aquileia> well, for now I'll go with "in the same directory as wesnoth\" if you don't mind
20150705 21:19:37< zookeeper> works perfectly for me
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20150705 22:33:51< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/69657758
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20150705 23:11:07< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/69658457
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20150705 23:22:29< aquileia> oh, right, forgot the [skip ci] tag...
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20150705 23:52:02< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/69663180
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