--- Log opened Sun Jul 19 00:00:53 2015 20150719 00:07:53-!- Appleman1234_ is now known as Appleman1234 20150719 00:22:10-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20150719 00:43:49-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20150719 01:08:51-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD106152061221.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20150719 02:00:04-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD106152061221.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 02:02:05-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 02:06:16-!- ArneBab [~quassel@55d44e48.access.ecotel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 02:09:34-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@55d45488.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20150719 02:15:29-!- prkc [~prkc@catv-89-134-159-162.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150719 02:53:35-!- xixor [~xixor@isitoctconf.org] has quit [Quit: smell ya later] 20150719 03:38:36-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20150719 03:46:11-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 04:03:02-!- thechap909 [c0d66459@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.214.100.89] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 04:08:03< thechap909> Does anyone know how to enable add-on factions or eras for the map editor? 20150719 04:08:50< shadowm> The factions and eras in question must be coded so that their WML is included when EDITOR is defined. 20150719 04:10:13< thechap909> Is there a tutorial for how to do that? I'm kind of hopeless when it comes to that kind of stuff. 20150719 04:11:16< shadowm> No, not really. But if you want to brute force-it, you can take one era and, for example, copy its #ifdef MULTIPLAYER block and paste it again in the same file replacing MULTIPLAYER with EDITOR. The relevant code is usually found in every add-on's _main.cfg file. 20150719 04:15:10-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@50-107-124-87.adr02.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150719 04:21:50< thechap909> That seemed to do it, although all the units are mixed in with the normal factions 20150719 04:22:32-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has quit [Quit: #AncientBeast - Master Your Beasts ( www.AncientBeast.com )] 20150719 04:23:32-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@50-107-124-87.adr02.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 05:04:46-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 05:05:53-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 05:44:55-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150719 05:51:38-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150719 06:09:23-!- [Relic] [~Relic]@2602:306:33a3:6d30:80af:e874:d6b1:98a9] has quit [Quit: I press the magic X and all the weirdos go away!] 20150719 06:12:52-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 06:27:56-!- thechap909 [c0d66459@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.214.100.89] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20150719 06:37:05-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150719 06:50:47-!- shadowm_desktop is now known as evilshadowmaster 20150719 06:50:54-!- evilshadowmaster is now known as shadowm_desktop 20150719 07:07:25-!- j3m4dux [~jemadux@unaffiliated/jemadux] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 07:10:24-!- jemadux [~jemadux@unaffiliated/jemadux] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20150719 07:19:40-!- hay207 [~haythamme@41.34.62.113] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 07:21:31-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20150719 07:23:08-!- Earlo [~Earlo@line-10441.dyn.kponet.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 07:27:42-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 07:41:27-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20150719 07:47:00-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 07:48:12-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 08:01:16-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 08:22:42-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20150719 08:30:14-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 08:59:47-!- j3m4dux [~jemadux@unaffiliated/jemadux] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20150719 08:59:53-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 09:30:26-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150719 09:43:55-!- Akien [~akien@unaffiliated/akien] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 09:44:35< Akien> Hi there 20150719 09:44:59< Akien> Are there people around who were involved in the development of SilverTree RPG? https://code.google.com/p/silvertree/ 20150719 09:46:34-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20150719 10:14:48-!- hay207 [~haythamme@41.34.62.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20150719 10:30:59< zookeeper> Akien, i think all the remaining ones are better found at #frogatto now 20150719 10:42:20< Akien> zookeeper: Ok thanks. As google code will close soon, I made a backup repo here for the time being: https://github.com/LibreGameArchive/silvertree 20150719 10:54:40-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20150719 11:00:02-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 11:01:02-!- Akien [~akien@unaffiliated/akien] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150719 11:01:50-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 11:13:38-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20150719 11:14:14-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 11:17:29-!- Akien [~akien@unaffiliated/akien] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 11:44:02-!- Akien [~akien@unaffiliated/akien] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20150719 11:56:17-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20150719 12:02:29-!- Akien [~akien@unaffiliated/akien] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 12:24:45-!- Akien [~akien@unaffiliated/akien] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20150719 12:35:03-!- Akien [~akien@unaffiliated/akien] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 12:45:42-!- Akien [~akien@unaffiliated/akien] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20150719 12:47:40-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 12:47:52-!- Yay899 [~Yay899@2601:196:8300:2:610b:90d0:5f02:886d] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 12:49:40< Yay899> If I'm not joining in the middle of a conversation, could I ask a quick question? How many bits do I need to use for a png for unit art? The guide says 24-bit, or 8-bits per RBG channel, but that doesn't support transparency. Am I supposed to be using 32-bit, which is 8 bits per RBGA channel? 20150719 12:53:50< zookeeper> yes 20150719 12:54:01< zookeeper> which guide was that? 20150719 12:54:29< zookeeper> (and the yes was to your last question) 20150719 12:54:41< zookeeper> (although naturally it applies to the first one too!) 20150719 12:56:10< Yay899> It's this one: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Creating_Unit_Art 20150719 12:56:14< Yay899> Thanks for the help! 20150719 12:57:27< zookeeper> ah, i'll correct that part... 20150719 13:14:39-!- Yay899_ [~Yay899@c-73-47-52-130.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 13:18:38-!- Yay899 [~Yay899@2601:196:8300:2:610b:90d0:5f02:886d] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150719 13:21:44-!- Yay899__ [~Yay899@2601:196:8300:2:dcdf:800e:dc16:992] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 13:23:50-!- Yay899 [~Yay899@2601:196:8300:2:dcdf:800e:dc16:992] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 13:25:36-!- Yay899_ [~Yay899@c-73-47-52-130.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20150719 13:26:06-!- Yay899__ [~Yay899@2601:196:8300:2:dcdf:800e:dc16:992] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150719 13:27:16-!- Yay899 [~Yay899@2601:196:8300:2:dcdf:800e:dc16:992] has quit [Client Quit] 20150719 14:06:24-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 14:15:51< DeFender1031> i don't know why anyone would ever use anything except 32-bit RGBA PNGs for anything except a live photo. 20150719 14:16:34< DeFender1031> (not counting vector graphics which can only present a subset of what a real image format can.) 20150719 14:17:48< zookeeper> to save on filespace, obviously 20150719 14:21:19< DeFender1031> i happen to be of the opinion to never trade file quality for file space. 20150719 14:23:23< zookeeper> i meant when quality wouldn't be affected 20150719 14:24:05< zookeeper> and of course in some specific pixel-art-like situations palettes might be convenient 20150719 14:26:01-!- salluc69 [~lucky@host101-49-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 20150719 14:31:28< zookeeper> for instance, i've chosen to have some stuff as 8-bit grayscale PNG's in some situation(s); the pixels remain exactly the same, only the filesize is much smaller 20150719 14:31:46< DeFender1031> ah 20150719 14:32:41< DeFender1031> i was including that under the 32 bit RGBA standard as well, given that it's essentially just defining a bunch of shortcuts for a full 32-bit color definition and using those instead... 20150719 14:32:54< zookeeper> right, okay then 20150719 14:33:52< zookeeper> in that case... sure, PNG is wonderful and i never find myself wanting to use anything else, except gif for animations and jpg for filesize sometimes 20150719 14:34:53< zookeeper> ...and dds and the like for textures 20150719 14:36:06-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 14:36:37-!- Narrat [~Crebiz@pD9F7F5A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 14:44:33-!- prkc [~prkc@catv-89-134-159-162.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 14:48:18-!- [Relic] [~Relic]@2602:306:33a3:6d30:a0d0:6d5d:c92c:1e60] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 14:49:41-!- salluc69 [~lucky@host101-49-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 15:00:06-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-81.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20150719 15:50:24-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150719 15:55:33-!- Panda_ [~IMO@2a01:e35:8aae:fcb0:a6fd:e761:fbcd:cbc2] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 16:08:24-!- shurnormal [~uxio@unaffiliated/ushiu] has quit [Quit: poweroff] 20150719 16:20:43-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20150719 16:30:06-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 16:32:41-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 17:00:46-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150719 17:02:33-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20150719 17:03:20-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p5B008542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150719 17:10:40-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 17:22:28-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 17:22:28-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Changing host] 20150719 17:22:28-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 17:28:31-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20150719 17:36:02-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 17:36:04-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has quit [Quit: #AncientBeast - Master Your Beasts ( www.AncientBeast.com )] 20150719 17:40:07-!- shurnormal [~uxio@unaffiliated/ushiu] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 17:47:05-!- xixor [~xixor@isitoctconf.org] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 17:47:09< xixor> awwwww yeah, whats up nerds 20150719 17:51:10-!- shurnormal [~uxio@unaffiliated/ushiu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150719 17:57:28-!- Appleman1234_ [~Appleman1@KD106152043086.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 18:00:24-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD106152061221.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20150719 18:02:28-!- shurnormal [~uxio@unaffiliated/ushiu] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 18:36:07-!- jemadux [~jemadux@unaffiliated/jemadux] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 18:57:33-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 19:08:30-!- dobson [~dobson@105.ip-167-114-152.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20150719 19:10:23-!- dobson [~dobson@2607:5300:100:200::160d] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 19:43:31-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 19:43:53-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-76-206-248.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20150719 19:45:38-!- TC01 [~quassel@london.acm.jhu.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20150719 19:55:39-!- TC01 [~quassel@london.acm.jhu.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 20:04:29-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20150719 20:16:47-!- Haudegen [~quassel@85.124.51.57] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 20:24:23-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 20:45:08-!- ancestral [~ancestral@209.181.254.220] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 20:45:13-!- ancestral [~ancestral@209.181.254.220] has quit [Client Quit] 20150719 20:47:18-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-76-206-248.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 21:12:19-!- Narrat [~Crebiz@pD9F7F5A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150719 21:29:17-!- Panda_ [~IMO@2a01:e35:8aae:fcb0:a6fd:e761:fbcd:cbc2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20150719 21:33:26-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Quit: Haldrik] 20150719 21:38:11< DreadKnight> Heya, Ancient Beast project founder. We now have a mailing list, I'm trying to populate the list to at least 50 subscribers before sending the first update, I invite you to sign up from this widget http://ancientbeast.com/#subscribe 20150719 22:10:48-!- TC01 [~quassel@london.acm.jhu.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150719 22:28:46-!- Earlo [~Earlo@line-10441.dyn.kponet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150719 22:29:25-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20150719 22:30:55-!- Appleman1234_ [~Appleman1@KD106152043086.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20150719 22:43:43-!- Appleman1234_ [~Appleman1@KD106152043086.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 23:06:19-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20150719 23:06:41-!- Appleman1234_ is now known as Appleman1234 20150719 23:08:25-!- Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20150719 23:10:51-!- Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 23:49:11-!- TC01 [~quassel@london.acm.jhu.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20150719 23:51:18< xixor> hi --- Log closed Mon Jul 20 00:00:19 2015