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20150725 01:06:20< xixor> sup
20150725 01:15:01< Yaiyan> S'up
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20150725 01:42:59< xixor> nothin
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20150725 02:23:31< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) Wesnoth needs your help! Read our announcement, and spread the word to any coders you know! http://r.wesnoth.org/t42912 [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/624766898270507008 ]
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20150725 08:17:46< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) The response to our call for help (http://r.wesnoth.org/t42912) has been amazing! Much thanks. #gamedev [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/624856049309237248 ]
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20150725 08:34:48< lipkab> Uh, isn't it a bit premature to call the response 'amazing' at this point? I mean, we have only 1 reply so far...
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20150725 08:37:03< shadowm> vultraz was taking a function of Twitter mentions+retweets and IRC channel activity into consideration instead of forum posts.
20150725 08:37:07< shadowm> Also, marketing.
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20150725 09:20:37< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) @ACDIND great to meet a fan! You can always help by spreading the word around. :) [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/624871868311310336 ]
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20150725 10:04:24< Yaiyan> Hmm
20150725 10:04:30< Yaiyan> Wesnoth.org is running slowly
20150725 10:04:39< Yaiyan> Being top of Hacker News doesn't help I guess
20150725 10:05:16< lipkab> Oh, so that's why!
20150725 10:05:53< Yaiyan> I feel bad about refreshing now
20150725 10:06:05< Yaiyan> The poor servers
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20150725 11:20:58< Yaiyan> ^
20150725 11:36:50< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) We're having some service slowdown/downtime due to high traffic. Please bear with us. [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/624906147666001920 ]
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20150725 12:58:52< autodidact> dang you guys are on the front page
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20150725 13:02:00< Yaiyan> Of HN?
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20150725 13:20:30< autodidact> of reddit, sorry
20150725 13:20:31< autodidact> haha
20150725 13:21:50< Yaiyan> Wait, really?
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20150725 13:33:06< Xara> Just a question concerning the timeline of Wesnoth, was Deoran meant to be the son of Haldiel in HttT?
20150725 13:33:32< vultraz> sadly not, it seems 
20150725 13:34:56< Xara> "King Haldric summoned a young, undistinguished but promising cavalry officer named Deoran. Deoran was the son of Haldiel, who had fought with distinction alongside Konrad I in the wars against the orcs. The King had a mission for Haldiel’s son."
20150725 13:35:04< Xara> from the 1st scenario of tSG
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20150725 13:37:11< vultraz> zookeeper: ^
20150725 13:39:45< zookeeper> yes, i believe he is
20150725 13:40:04< zookeeper> i don't know how well the timelines match though
20150725 13:46:39< Xara> But HttT was in 520 YW, while tSG started from 605
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20150725 13:54:21< zookeeper> well, maybe haldiel was really old when he had deoran. within the realm of possibility for sure
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20150725 13:55:10< celticminstrel> ...map diff is considered "easy"?
20150725 13:56:05< zookeeper> Xara, if there's a way to reconcile that somehow then great, but it's still a nice cross-campaign reference and frankly almost no one will realize the dates don't match...
20150725 13:59:58< Xara> I had trouble with it when I first played Wesnoth, I just remembered it again.
20150725 14:01:08< Xara> Is there an elegant way to make him the grandson of HttT Haldiel, and maybe son of another Haldiel who fought with Konrad I in another War against orcs in the lore?
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20150725 14:01:19< zookeeper> well, i guess a trivial fix would be to ... yes, make him a grandson
20150725 14:02:08< zookeeper> i don't think if a simple s/son/grandson counts as _elegant_, but it's certainly simple and works :p
20150725 14:03:07< Appleman1234> retrofitting the timeline ?
20150725 14:03:12< zookeeper> probably need to change the last sentence of that string though, repeating the word grandson sounds a bit weird
20150725 14:03:17 * zookeeper is afk for a while ->
20150725 14:03:51< celticminstrel> Just repeat hi name nstead.
20150725 14:03:58< celticminstrel> ^his, ^instead
20150725 14:04:13< celticminstrel> "The King had a mission for Deoran."
20150725 14:05:09< Xara> I just realized "Konrad I's war against orcs" are probably outdated as well. Was it a very old version of HttT?
20150725 14:12:20< celticminstrel> Ah, you're the person who posted in that thread.
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20150725 14:14:07< Xara> yes, I am. :) And should "the wars against the orcs" change to something like "the wars against Ashievere"?
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20150725 14:18:08< celticminstrel> I don't know, sorry.
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20150725 14:37:21< Appleman1234> Xara, leave the war against orcs
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20150725 14:39:35< Appleman1234> even though Ashievere is the antagonist , there is more fighting of the orcs than fighting Ashievere
20150725 14:40:44< Appleman1234> as per http://wiki.wesnoth.org/HtttStoryLine 
20150725 14:42:08< Appleman1234> saying Ashievere is spoiling HttT, for those who play tSG without finishing HttT
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20150725 14:44:45< Xara> Why would it be a spoiler? It was stated clear in the 1st scenario of HttT that Asheviere was the evil queen, and Konrad was meant to reclaim the throne.
20150725 14:46:00< Xara> The spoiler would be that Konrad was a waif, and he became Konrad I because he married Li'Sar.
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20150725 14:47:00< celticminstrel> Yeah, that wouldn't be a spoiler.
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20150725 14:47:15< Appleman1234> ok
20150725 14:47:32< celticminstrel> But it's true that there's more fighting of orcs than of Ashievere directly...
20150725 14:49:00< Appleman1234> I was just stating my opinion regarding the spoiler, because the links between Ashievere and the orcs aren't clearly stated until dialogue in later scenarios 
20150725 14:49:40< Appleman1234> if you want to change it the wars again Ashievere go ahead 
20150725 14:50:04< celticminstrel> I dunno.
20150725 14:50:10< Xara> I have no problem with it staying the same. I asked the question just because I heard that the original HttT was totally different. So I thought maybe the sentence was a reference to an ancient HttT, which might actually fight Orcs to reclaim the throne.
20150725 14:50:45< Appleman1234> as far as I know, final battle was always the queen, but I can check version control
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20150725 14:53:53< zookeeper> well yes, the mention that "Konrad I had driven off the orcs in the north" is pretty weird since it happened 600 years ago...
20150725 14:54:00< zookeeper> err
20150725 14:54:06< zookeeper> oh it's konrad, not haldric
20150725 14:54:08< zookeeper> how did i misread that
20150725 14:54:15 * zookeeper slaps himself
20150725 14:55:14< zookeeper> ok, so, yes, "in the wars with the orcs" could certainly be changed
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20150725 15:00:06< zookeeper> something along the lines but much better worded than "in the war to reclaim the throne" would be good, i think
20150725 15:03:18< Xara> But was it revealed that Konrad didn't really have the right to claim the throne?
20150725 15:04:16< Xara> I meant revealed to the people in the Wesnoth world
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20150725 15:10:27< Appleman1234> Xara, checked version control, final battle was always with the Queen
20150725 15:10:45< Xara> thanks
20150725 15:11:23< Appleman1234> at least since https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/60aa868216c921af0090607fbf8f0bbae59bf8f1#diff-aabcd4391e843bb64a274caec8d2b9b6 
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20150725 15:17:13< zookeeper> Xara, actually that's left ambiguous, i think
20150725 15:17:25< zookeeper> or at least i don't recall any mentions of that elsewhere
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20150725 17:28:19< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) (RT @JetrelArt) Working on frogatto's first inventory screen (hoping to add items + lots of other possibilities to the game). http://t.co/VC… [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/624994598083915776 ]
20150725 17:30:44< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) @anjilslaire @thevowel App store distribution is definitely something we might look into in the future, alongside Steam. [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/624995209089150977 ]
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