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20150828 00:00:08< LakeFlake> Minor diffs 
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20150828 00:01:59< mattsc> Some are minor, some are quite substantial.
20150828 00:02:38< mattsc> Those with a ‘before_sometime’ in the filename only work with a checkout of the repository from before that date.
20150828 00:02:52< mattsc> (As in, status of the repository; doesn’t matter when you do the checkout)
20150828 00:03:17< mattsc> If you want to compile current master, you need to use the latest one, otherwise it won’t work.
20150828 00:03:34< celticminstrel> Any progress on that script yet?
20150828 00:03:45< mattsc> No.
20150828 00:03:55< mattsc> LakeFlake: what version of OS X are you using?
20150828 00:04:39< LakeFlake> Yosemite … 10.10.5
20150828 00:04:55< LakeFlake> Build just  finished and it looks like no errors …. 
20150828 00:05:05< LakeFlake> Still learning Xcode <bla>
20150828 00:05:54< mattsc> Okay - you should be good then.
20150828 00:06:23< mattsc> If you were on 10.7 and earlier, the “standard method” wouldn’t work without tweaking, but 10.9 and 10.10 should be okay.
20150828 00:06:44< mattsc> (and we don’t know about 10.8, because we haven’t had anybody try it on that version yet)
20150828 00:07:35< LakeFlake> Either way, thanks for the help … I am trying something new and hoping to contribute at some point. 
20150828 00:09:17< mattsc> Cool - looking forward to that.  :et us know if you run into problems.  You might not always get an answer right away, depending on who’s around, but people are usually pretty good to reply eventually.
20150828 00:09:42< mattsc> s/to reply/with replying  :P
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20150828 06:59:02< Soliton> zookeeper: what would adding the status sounds to [game_config] [sounds] help?
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20150828 09:05:55< zookeeper> Soliton, it'd just be easier and simpler code-wise to add them there, and it would then have the added benefits of 1) the sounds being customizable and 2) removing hard-codedness of the sounds in other parts of the code (poisoning at turn start mainly, i guess)
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20150828 09:11:17< zookeeper> oh, wait, 1 and 2 are the same
20150828 09:13:31< Soliton> i see, sounds good. why do you not prefer that though?
20150828 09:15:16< zookeeper> only because then you wouldn't have the possibility to customize individual specials' sounds... although admittedly that would serve no current purpose in mainline
20150828 09:15:39< zookeeper> so i'll probably try that anyway and see how it works out
20150828 09:16:54< Soliton> right, i see. i guess it depends whether we want to enforce consistency in specials or not.
20150828 09:17:52< Soliton> you could still do your own thing with custom specials, right? (if there is such a thing)
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20150828 09:20:20< zookeeper> yeah assuming you wouldn't use the [poison], [slow] etc tags (because those would automatically play the corresponding sounds), you could do all custom sounds in animations
20150828 09:20:42< zookeeper> it'd be clumsy because you'd have to write duplicate animation variations, but possible
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20150828 13:19:01< celticminstrel> Did shadowm not get notified of the updated PR again, or have you just been busy?
20150828 13:31:26< vultraz> gfgtdf: do you know how to disable Esc-exiting from a gui2 dialog?
20150828 13:33:49< shadowm> celticminstrel: Both.
20150828 13:34:20< shadowm> vultraz: Look at gui2::ttitle_screen::pre_show().
20150828 13:34:30< celticminstrel> I thought commenting on it would notify you.
20150828 13:34:35< celticminstrel> I guess not then?
20150828 13:35:22< shadowm> You mean #475? Then yes, I was notified for each of the 6 comments on it.
20150828 13:37:15< celticminstrel> Oh.
20150828 13:37:30 * celticminstrel confused now. Oh well.
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20150828 15:26:27< travis-ci> aquileia/wesnoth#8 (travis - ec54d56 : aquileia): The build failed.
20150828 15:26:27< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/aquileia/wesnoth/builds/77699768
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20150828 15:53:12< shadowm> vultraz: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=DirectActionsWML&diff=56675&oldid=56674 I thought this was 1.13.2?
20150828 15:53:35< shadowm> gfgtdf: wesnoth.random is still undocumented.
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20150828 16:23:19< aquileia> shadowm: Seems the container based builds still have one more hurdle... since https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ab9baacf6eb8a we require SDL_mixer 1.2.12 (or rather the new Mix_LoadMUSType_RW) but the precise package only contains 1.2.11
20150828 16:23:19< Neaghar> Herro friends
20150828 16:23:47 * Neaghar slaps tomreyn around a bit with a large fishbot
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20150828 16:24:45< tomreyn> Neaghar: ?
20150828 16:24:56< Neaghar> Yes friend
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20150828 16:25:25< tomreyn> one of my best chats ever
20150828 16:26:42< aquileia> shadowm: However, trusty has the correct version, so if we moved travis to to that first we'd circumvent the issue. Of course we have to re-submit the request to add all the packages to the apt addon trusty whitelist, but we'd have to do that anyway
20150828 16:27:24< celticminstrel> ...what on earth was that.
20150828 16:27:49< aquileia> How likely is it the package maintainers would update the version in the precise package repo?
20150828 16:29:48< aquileia> Rhonda: ^ Any insights?
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20150828 16:30:44< aquileia> Just to clarify, I'm speaking about http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
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20150828 16:42:52< Rhonda> aquileia: update in what way?
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20150828 16:43:55< aquileia> The ubuntu sdl_mixer package has 1.2.11 on precise and 1.2.12 on trusty, we'd need 1.2.12 on precise if possible
20150828 16:44:13< Rhonda> not possible
20150828 16:44:23< Rhonda> precise-backports maybe
20150828 16:44:29< Rhonda> but that's unlikely for a library
20150828 16:44:35< Rhonda> What for do you need it?
20150828 16:45:39< aquileia> The travis tests run on precise (we plan to ask for access to the beta trusty machines, but would first like to get it running on precise)
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20150828 16:54:04< aquileia> So basically, we don't want to ask for trusty before we got travis' container based builds running, and those won't run until we're on trusty with the updated sdl-mixer...
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20150828 18:45:31< irker483> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master a245f0e14e0c / changelog: Update changelog http://git.io/vGORF
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20150828 19:26:18< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7220 (master - a245f0e : gfgtdf): The build was fixed.
20150828 19:26:18< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/77730377
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20150828 20:34:35< Scheie> hi
20150828 20:35:01< Elvish_Hunter> Hi
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20150828 21:32:09< zookeeper> rather simple implementation even if i do say so myself: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/478
20150828 21:33:17< celticminstrel> Is it intentional that the holy water in SotBE5 does nothing at all?
20150828 21:34:02< zookeeper> yes
20150828 21:34:32< zookeeper> it's debatable whether it's a very successful joke considering you're not the first person to ask :p
20150828 21:35:40< celticminstrel> Maybe it would help if it was noted in the dialogue that nothing happened.
20150828 21:35:43< celticminstrel> Somehow.
20150828 21:39:43< irker483> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 6e14fc46c31f / src/carryover.cpp: Remove unused carryover data from saves http://git.io/vG3gb
20150828 21:40:31< celticminstrel> The detail of that message makes it sound a lot better.
20150828 21:44:22< celticminstrel> ...the attack dialog doesn't show the damage type. o.O
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20150828 22:00:14< gfgtdf> i wonder whether it makes sense to have a tag like [if_current_side_is_viewing] or more generally [if_unsynced]
20150828 22:02:30< gfgtdf> for example this is a typical case that can casue OOS: http://pastebin.com/qRLDPSLm
20150828 22:03:20< gfgtdf> or maybe just more geneally a tag [unsynced]
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20150828 22:29:11< shadowm> gfgtdf: wesnoth.random is undocumented.
20150828 22:29:30< gfgtdf> shadowm: i documented it soe hours ago
20150828 22:29:39< shadowm> I don't see it.
20150828 22:29:59< shadowm> The last change to the index is still mine from several days ago.
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20150828 22:51:20< aquileia> shadowm: What is your stance on the sdl_mixer version issue? Should we apply for travis' trusty beta and switch to container-based builds afterwards?
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20150828 23:02:11< shadowm> aquileia: For how long do you expect Travis builds to be broken if we do that?
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20150828 23:04:59< aquileia> If we first request that they add the relevant packages to the trusty whitelist, I can have it fully prepared as a PR... so basically as much time as it needs to retrigger the build of that PR and merge it
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20150828 23:05:50< shadowm> What was the page with instructions about contacting them for the beta again?
20150828 23:09:24< aquileia> Can't find it right now, but it's support@travis-ci.com
20150828 23:09:50< shadowm> https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/3690#issuecomment-93998948
20150828 23:10:20< shadowm> Not much there in the way of instructions...
20150828 23:11:32< shadowm> So what do we do first?
20150828 23:11:45< aquileia> There's a list of optional features somewhere, and the link was posted here... but it was nearly a month ago, so it'd take time to search the logs
20150828 23:14:08< aquileia> I'd say we first need to post the missing packages as an issue for apt-package-whitelist (they were only added for precise as of now, trusty has its own whitelist), then we write their support
20150828 23:14:58< shadowm> Would you be able take care of the first part?
20150828 23:16:08< aquileia> Yes
20150828 23:16:23< shadowm> Okay, then go ahead!
20150828 23:17:20< aquileia> I would have done that already had I known precise only has sdl-mixer 1.2.11, but it never occurred to me
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