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20150816 00:13:32< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) (RT @HFAgame) Alicia and Mrs. Nimit reunite after a large comet strikes Auster Island #screenshotsaturday #pixelart #gamedev http://t.co/1XO… [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/632706721694150656 ]
20150816 00:13:43< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) (RT @frogatto) More great artists collaborating on @Argentum_Age, excellent :) https://twitter.com/Argentum_Age/status/632596672703500288 [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/632706766019657728 ]
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20150816 17:26:18< celticminstrel> Ooh, I just thought of something for ToD.
20150816 17:27:33< celticminstrel> Basically a sky covered in clouds; the moon is completely hidden, and the sun is weak.
20150816 17:28:02< celticminstrel> More like dust/ash clouds than regular weather.
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20150816 18:22:48< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) To follow up our screenshot from yesterday, Genesis has made its first public release. Enjoy! http://r.wesnoth.org/t43023 #gamedev [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/632980842118156288 ]
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20150816 19:47:59< aeth> celticminstrel: it would be great if there was a weather TOD add-on
20150816 19:48:18< aeth> so e.g. if it's snowing it counts as dusk/dawn during the day *and* it covers random tiles withs now
20150816 19:48:21< aeth> *with snow
20150816 19:48:46< aeth> To be unpredictable I think it would require being able to change the ToD while the game is going though
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20150816 20:07:29< celticminstrel> Is that not possible? I vaguely recall seeing something but it could be my imagination.
20150816 20:08:52< celticminstrel> Well, if nothing else, [time_area] would do it.
20150816 20:10:48< celticminstrel> Though having a time area that covers the whole map feels a bit off.
20150816 20:12:40< celticminstrel> Ah, thought so. There's a [replace_schedule].
20150816 20:23:47< deego> aeth: TOD?
20150816 20:24:14< deego> ah, time of day
20150816 20:31:12< celticminstrel> If gold=0 then any gold you have would be carryover, right?
20150816 20:32:43< celticminstrel> Guess so.
20150816 20:58:12< celticminstrel> I'm storing all your units at the end of the scenario with kill=yes so they don't go to the recall list, but it's kinda weird to have all the units disappear from the map like that... :S
20150816 21:01:48< zookeeper> well, you can just mark them somehow and remove in next prestart
20150816 21:02:36< celticminstrel> Hmm. Maybe.
20150816 21:02:44< celticminstrel> Some of them have known IDs, too.
20150816 21:03:09< zookeeper> although that's problematic if someone happens to use :cl, but catering to that is quite optional
20150816 21:03:20< celticminstrel> :cl?
20150816 21:03:44< zookeeper> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CommandMode
20150816 21:04:17< celticminstrel> Oh that.
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20150816 22:24:54< aeth> celticminstrel: Yeah I was thinking about hacking together something with [time_area]... Might be better than [replace_schedule] if you only want snow in certain areas, anyway. It would probably need bost.
20150816 22:24:58< aeth> *both
20150816 22:25:21< celticminstrel> True.
20150816 22:25:50< aeth> You'd probably want a majority weather (possibly [replace_schedule]) and a minority weather or weathers. It could get complicated
20150816 22:26:38< celticminstrel> Hmm... is it possible to get the current time of day as an index?
20150816 22:27:05< aeth> well just use modulo arithmetic on 6 (assuming you're using the standard ToD and not e.g. the 24 hour schedule)
20150816 22:27:24< celticminstrel> No, that won't work.
20150816 22:27:31< aeth> no?
20150816 22:28:10< celticminstrel> What if the scenario sets the schedule to start at dusk?
20150816 22:28:20< aeth> You only need to know the first ToD then, to shift it
20150816 22:28:22< celticminstrel> Not by rearranging it but by using current_time=.
20150816 22:29:35< celticminstrel> Can you obtain the schedule as an array?
20150816 22:29:44< vultraz> celticminstrel: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/LuaWML:Display#wesnoth.get_time_of_day
20150816 22:30:30< aeth> you'd probably want to do both if you're changing the ToD around during the game
20150816 22:30:54< celticminstrel> vultraz: The problem with that is that it only gives you the data for the current slot on the schedule. You have no idea where that sits within the full schedule.
20150816 22:32:26< aeth> celticminstrel: right that's why you get (1) the current slot and (2) the turn number. Then you know where it starts on e.g. the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 cycle and then you can shift the modulo if you're messing around with shifting schedules during the game
20150816 22:32:34< celticminstrel> Hmm, I suppose you could use that to build an array containing the schedule, but you would have no easy way to tell when the schedule ends and loops...
20150816 22:32:58< aeth> As long as the schedule is a reliable list you can do it
20150816 22:33:12< aeth> So what you should probably do is if e.g. you want to make a cloudy day, you should make 6 different cloudy day ToDs
20150816 22:33:37< aeth> (or 24 or however many you're using)
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20150816 23:33:55< celticminstrel> I wonder if there are any campaigns or eras or whatever that use custom ellipses...
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