--- Log opened Wed Aug 19 00:00:16 2015
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20150819 01:48:51< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) We have a lot of good stuff lined up for our next dev release that we think you guys will like, including a big shiny surprise. #gamedev [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/633817872301584385 ]
20150819 01:49:27< celticminstrel> Oh my, a bit shiny surprise...
20150819 01:49:52< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) You'll have to wait a while to see what it is, though. We're not ready to release it just yet. #gamdev [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/633818129483759616 ]
20150819 01:50:54< vultraz> #hype
20150819 01:51:02< celticminstrel> Indeed.
20150819 01:51:38< vultraz> Heh, I typoed gamedev in the last tweet
20150819 01:51:50< vultraz> Funnily enough, it seems a lot of other people have done it as well
20150819 01:53:07< celticminstrel> Heh.
20150819 01:53:15< celticminstrel> ^big not bit whoops
20150819 01:53:27< vultraz> xD
20150819 01:54:59< celticminstrel> Even after reading the changelog I have no idea what the big shiny surprise is.
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20150819 03:06:01< aeth> oh wow for some reason my WML that I thought was broken in one of my maps decided today to not be broken.
20150819 03:06:08< aeth> And it decided to be broken even more on another one
20150819 03:06:17< aeth> Oh... There might be a name conflict in the macro names.
20150819 03:06:33< aeth> I disabled all add-ons but my own so I could test them faster.
20150819 03:07:53< celticminstrel> The only add-on I have besides my own really is that random map pack.
20150819 03:08:07< celticminstrel> ...though I also installed IftU and AtS so I could scrounge them for resources. >_>
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20150819 03:42:23< minna> haha
20150819 03:42:32< minna> I'm going to crib a lot too
20150819 03:42:49< minna> I'm grateful to whoever made Steelhive
20150819 03:43:26< shadowm> I'm okay with this kind of thing as long as you don't reuse unit art that's used for one-of-a-kind units.
20150819 03:50:28< celticminstrel> You mean like the Mystic and such?
20150819 03:51:05< shadowm> No I mean like the Sylvan Warden and a few other unit types that are only ever used for named characters.
20150819 03:51:14< celticminstrel> I haven't used any that I know is used for one-of-a-kind units, but I might've possibly grabbed some that are used for unique shaxthal or something.
20150819 03:51:29< celticminstrel> I haven't taken any fairies (yet).
20150819 03:51:42< celticminstrel> ^know are
20150819 03:51:57< shadowm> AtS has a generic version of the Elvish Ascetic line that shares names with an IftU unit type used for a named character (Anlindë) with different sprites.
20150819 03:52:19< celticminstrel> Ah.
20150819 03:52:41< shadowm> The IftU sprites for the EA line would be off-limits but the AtS sprites are okay.
20150819 03:53:02< shadowm> Also, if you ever plan to play either campaign, looking at the resources dir is a really bad idea.
20150819 03:53:15< celticminstrel> Probably. Oh well. >_>
20150819 03:57:56< aeth> sort of like the worst way to play a survival is to read the source and see where the units spawn and when? :-p
20150819 03:58:45< shadowm> No.
20150819 03:59:03< aeth> well I mean if you read the source of the campaign you know what's coming
20150819 03:59:22< aeth> survivals are an extreme example because usually there's no recruiting, just spawning
20150819 03:59:29< celticminstrel> I'm not reading the source.
20150819 03:59:58< shadowm> It's perfectly fine to know how the gameplay goes in my book. The problem is knowing plot points in advance in a story-based campaign.
20150819 04:00:11< aeth> ah
20150819 04:03:40< celticminstrel> I don't have any plans to do this at the moment, but are edits (eg recolours) of unique units okay with you?
20150819 04:04:00< celticminstrel> (I think I've already got everything I want, except maybe some fairies.)
20150819 04:04:19< celticminstrel> (...though, it looks like there are a lot of unique fairies.)
20150819 04:04:22< shadowm> celticminstrel: I'd generally prefer to evaluate that on a case-by-case basis.
20150819 04:04:29< celticminstrel> 'kay
20150819 04:04:48< shadowm> That also means I may be able to provide a more generic-looking alternative.
20150819 04:04:56< celticminstrel> Ah.
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20150819 04:52:57< celticminstrel> Any idea how to get "the side 1 unit closest to x,y"?
20150819 04:53:29< aeth> radius?
20150819 04:53:57< aeth> This might not be the most efficient but you can repeatedly increase the radius until you get a result.
20150819 04:54:04< aeth> It might be best in Lua.
20150819 04:54:05< celticminstrel> I suppose.
20150819 04:54:15< celticminstrel> I was thinking I might have to Lua too.
20150819 04:54:47< aeth> something like for i=1,<whatever> do and then in the middle of the loop return as soon as you find a unit so you don't loop more than you have to.
20150819 04:54:48< celticminstrel> Ah, WLP has a tag for it!
20150819 04:54:57< celticminstrel> Yay for it already being done. XD
20150819 04:55:02< celticminstrel> ^ :D
20150819 04:55:04< aeth> well this may or may not be more efficient
20150819 04:55:12< aeth> also < 10 lines
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20150819 05:24:45< celticminstrel> Why is my recall list disappearing? :(
20150819 05:25:50< shadowm> Everyone quit your recall list complaining about poor working conditions and low wages.
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20150819 05:44:37< celticminstrel> XD
20150819 05:45:34< celticminstrel> My haphazard guess would be that it has something to do with the leader not existing.
20150819 05:47:07< celticminstrel> So my solution is to put all your units in variables. >_>
20150819 05:49:07< shadowm> The leader id is the default [side] save_id, and the save_id allows Wesnoth to find th correct carried over data for the side (gold, recalls, etc.).
20150819 05:50:02< celticminstrel> Well, it seems to work this way as well though.
20150819 05:50:17< celticminstrel> I suppose I could've gotten things to work somehow by explicitly specifying the save_id.
20150819 05:50:19< shadowm> So if you change your leader id between scenarios and your [side] does not use an explicit save_id, Wesnoth will ignore the old saved data dns tart anew.
20150819 05:50:31< shadowm> *and start anew.
20150819 05:51:10< celticminstrel> Maybe I'll try an explicit save_id again, but this time in both scenarios.
20150819 05:54:42< celticminstrel> Prestart [inspect] still shows an empty recall list though, so I guess I'm sticking to storing every unit in variables.
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20150819 14:10:38< patwotrik> I'm trying to pull the repo. Please remind me of the command if I want to pull 1.12.4
20150819 14:10:45< patwotrik> That is, what is remote?
20150819 14:15:48< vultraz> git@github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth.git and the branch is "1.12"
20150819 14:20:31< patwotrik> Ah thanks
20150819 14:20:45< patwotrik> I tried origin and it workd, but i specified 1.12.4
20150819 14:24:04< Soliton> a git repo contains all versions. you checkout what version you want from the repo.
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