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20150821 04:36:17< Aginor> okay, it's all in src/widgets/textbox.cpp
20150821 04:38:23< Aginor> the input handling of text should probably change
20150821 04:38:38< Aginor> and be broken out into a separate class that deals with it across all input
20150821 04:45:42< Aginor> quick and dirty fix: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/469
20150821 04:59:58< celticminstrel> Wrong channel?
20150821 05:00:40< celticminstrel> Also, does anyone know if there are any add-ons that have fairies or similar creatures that aren't simply taken from IftU/AtS? (The graphics I mean, not unit_types.)
20150821 05:01:06< celticminstrel> I like the ones in IftU/AtS, just want to know if there are any other options.
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20150821 05:06:42< Aginor> celticminstrel: yes, thanks
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20150821 05:12:14< celticminstrel> What's "Hold Position" (shift-space) for?
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20150821 05:28:43< Aginor> presumably like sleep/fortify in civ games
20150821 05:28:49< Aginor> but I haven't checked
20150821 05:29:01< Aginor> the unit holds position until activated again, not prompting you to move it
20150821 05:30:02< celticminstrel> So like space, but persists across turns?
20150821 05:30:15< Aginor> presumably
20150821 05:30:23< Aginor> but I am only speculating :)
20150821 05:30:30< celticminstrel> Fair enough.
20150821 05:39:33< aeth> That's a great idea.
20150821 05:40:11< aeth> I can imagine something similar being done in e.g. a hardcore RPG mod where you have to actually sleep for at least 6 turns a day or something. (Assuming that mod uses the 24 hour day/night cycle)
20150821 05:40:28< aeth> So you could e.g. ambush units by catching them while they're sleeping
20150821 05:40:47< aeth> berserk against a sleeping unit = instakill, I guess.
20150821 05:41:29< Aginor> aeth: to make it more realistic you'd also have the concept of units on the watch, potentialy waking sleeping units etc
20150821 05:41:30< aeth> (The difference between sleep and fortify would be no attack until woken up by the player or by being attacked.)
20150821 05:42:02< aeth> Aginor: yes, that could work too. So three things could wake a sleeping unit: a fight in a certain radius, the player, or being attacked
20150821 05:42:25< aeth> Put a unit on "watch" and the radius of the fight to notify could increase or something.
20150821 05:42:53< aeth> so e.g. the radius would be 1-2 if a normal unit is attacked, but 5 if a unit on watch is attacked *or* spots a unit within its vision radius or something
20150821 05:43:51< aeth> so then there could be a stealth scenario where you basically have 8 turns on the 24 hour schedule starting at night to do something without alerting the sleeping units.
20150821 05:44:27< aeth> bonus points if it somehow involves being Undead and using Shadows
20150821 05:50:18< aeth> and perhaps give some sort of benefit (shorter sleep time? no penalty to damage if woken up?) to sleeping on villages
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20150821 05:56:15< aeth> Whether it's villages as entire villages (traditional scale) or villages as buildings (more RPGish scale), sleeping there kind of makes sense.
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20150821 06:30:23< celticminstrel> I like the Khalifate in general, but I can't disagree with the people who point out that the unit names are hard to understand.
20150821 06:31:47< celticminstrel> ...one thing the Khalifate lacks is a leader line.
20150821 06:32:11< celticminstrel> Though some others also lack that, admittedly (elves, drakes, dwarves).
20150821 06:32:48< celticminstrel> Oh wait, elves do have one.
20150821 06:32:49< shadowm> Drakes do have a leader line, undead don't, and neither do northerners.
20150821 06:33:45< shadowm> (No, the Goblin Rouser doesn't really count, and neither does the Orcish Sovereign that's not in Default.)
20150821 06:34:00< celticminstrel> Sorry, I think you misunderstood what I mean.
20150821 06:34:16< celticminstrel> The Orcish Sovereign is exactly the sort of thing I'm thinking of.
20150821 06:35:00< shadowm> I thought you were talking in MP terms. Okay then.
20150821 06:35:05< celticminstrel> Along with Elvish Lord, Sergeant, Troll Hero.
20150821 06:36:14< celticminstrel> I guess they do have the Khalid, even though it's a L4 instead of a line.
20150821 06:37:06< celticminstrel> ...the Khalid's unit image doesn't have a shield, yet he has shield bash.
20150821 06:46:11< celticminstrel> I'm not quite sure why everyone says the Khalifate is blatantly Muslim. Arab, sure.
20150821 06:46:39< celticminstrel> I should probably not use the word "everyone" there, but whatever.
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20150821 07:22:14< celticminstrel> I can't figure out how to unselect a tile in the editor.
20150821 07:22:26< celticminstrel> It seems like I can only select tiles, not unselect them.
20150821 07:23:22< celticminstrel> Alt-click, Ctrl-click, Cmd-click, and right-click all do not work. Shift-click is like the fill bucket.
20150821 07:23:52< celticminstrel> So basically if I make a mistake my only option is to Select None and then start over.
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20150821 08:03:06< Aginor> celmin|sleep: wrong channel? Is this on mainline or my changes?
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20150821 14:15:02< DeFender1031> just found a bug that allows you to see your enemy's movement plans
20150821 14:16:30< DeFender1031> if you select a movement which is greater than one turn's worth of movement, and in doing so sight an enemy unit and press t to keep moving, once the movement is done, if you hover over an enemy unit you can see where they're planning to move
20150821 14:18:34< DeFender1031> actually... no. that's just what it looks like at first. Seems what it's actually doing is showing a path from that unit to the hex that the unit you originally moved sighted the enemy... and this happens when hovering over my own units too
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20150821 14:23:14< celmin|sleep> Aginor: That was in 1.12, so mainline.
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20150821 15:10:06< celticminstrel> I like the new terrain modifier icons, but I think it might be nice to have a few more, in order to show features of the terrain such as: heals; gives income; can recruit from; can recruit onto.
20150821 15:10:43< celticminstrel> Mind you, "gives income" can already be determined by moving the mouse over a tile.
20150821 15:11:15< celticminstrel> Maybe the recruit ones can be determined by right-clicking a tile. I don't know any way to identify healing terrains though.
20150821 15:13:45< DeFender1031> wouldn't those just be villages?
20150821 15:14:04< celticminstrel> Nope, "gives income" and "heals" are independent properties.
20150821 15:14:12< celticminstrel> Oases heal but do not give income.
20150821 15:16:04< DeFender1031> i meant the healing spaces. there are other healing spaces than villages?
20150821 15:16:21< celticminstrel> Yes, like I just said - oasis
20150821 15:16:32< DeFender1031> did not know know that.
20150821 15:16:40< celticminstrel> I'm not surprised.
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20150821 18:40:37< Ravana_> does anything happen there? last I checked there wasnt anything
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