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20150907 00:00:00< fabi> gfgtdf: The selection is back. But then wesnoth: src/game_initialization/connect_engine.cpp:876: ng::side_engine::side_engine(const config &, ng::connect_engine &, const int): Assertion `cfg_["id"].empty()' failed.
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20150907 00:03:33< gfgtdf> fabi: hmm you can mostlikeley work around that by specifxing save_id= manually in your sides of your scenaio
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20150907 00:06:07< irker480> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 6c1e64a4e44c / src/game_initialization/mp_game_utils.cpp: attempt to fix assertion failure at connect_engine.cpp:876 http://git.io/vZU2x
20150907 00:06:11< gfgtdf> fabi: ^
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20150907 00:08:20< fabi> gfgtdf: wesnoth: src/game_initialization/connect_engine.cpp:1278: void ng::side_engine::update_current_controller_index(): Assertion `current_controller_index_ < controller_options_.size()' failed.
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20150907 00:43:24< gfgtdf> fabi: hmm no idea here
20150907 00:44:26< fabi> gfgtdf: I am going to fill a proper bug report for it.
20150907 00:44:42< gfgtdf> fabi: ok
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20150907 01:06:30< midzer> any1 got a few minutes to help me out with a HTML/CSS problem?
20150907 01:07:46< shadowm> Potentially, depends on what it is.
20150907 01:08:56< midzer> a minor style issue, may i pm you?
20150907 01:12:47< celticminstrel> I don't understand why it would need to be private.
20150907 01:12:56< midzer> okay
20150907 01:13:25< midzer> i built site http://feuerwehr-eisolzried.de/ which is based upon https://ffmuc.net/
20150907 01:14:32< midzer> i dont understand why the style is different (except some colors which i edited)
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20150907 01:43:43< midzer> found the mistake: bootstrap has not been loaded
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20150907 01:49:53< ancestral> Sigh, I need to find some time to update the Wesnoth bestiary
20150907 01:51:18< ancestral> Have there been stat changes to units in mainline or default since November?
20150907 01:51:43< ancestral> (Sorry, just multiplayer default, not concerned about mainline atm)
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20150907 02:01:29< celticminstrel> shadowm: This look fine style-wise?
20150907 02:01:31< celticminstrel> https://github.com/CelticMinstrel/wesnoth/commit/e046f713ed1e2a31f3c2d8fffa2b6a7a9be35bf1
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20150907 02:06:56< celticminstrel> Doesn't look like it, ancestral: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commits/master/data/core/units
20150907 02:07:59< shadowm> celticminstrel: Yes. I assume you made sure blank() is what you need.
20150907 02:08:20 * shadowm always forgets the difference between attribute_value::blank() and empty() and doesn't have his IDE open atm.
20150907 02:09:50< ancestral> So looks like the last non-Khalifate stat change was Feb 5, 2014
20150907 02:10:08< ancestral> (Unless you count the mudcrawlers getting ‘elemental’)
20150907 02:10:24< shadowm> That counts as mainline.
20150907 02:11:25< ancestral> Oh good, I have that change
20150907 02:11:33< ancestral> “* Decreased the strikes of the Dwarvish Lord's hatchet attack from 2 to 1.”
20150907 02:13:31< celticminstrel> Yes.
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20150907 02:20:42< irker480> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master e046f713ed1e / src/unit_types.cpp: When patching movetypes, don't let default= override everything http://git.io/vZU9z
20150907 02:20:44< irker480> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master cf18825a821c / src/unit_types.cpp: Merge branch 'CelticMinstrel/movetype' http://git.io/vZU9g
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20150907 03:00:49< shadowm> Aginor: I've sent an email to the ML explaining the road ahead for the SDL 2 transition as we discussed yesterday-ish.
20150907 03:02:02< shadowm> *ironing out
20150907 03:02:18< shadowm> I proofread the whole thing and somehow missed that anyway.
20150907 03:02:44< celmin|sleep> Eh, it sorta still works without the preposition. >_>
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20150907 03:55:57< Aginor> shadowm: I saw that, thank you
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20150907 05:07:12< vultraz> you also typoed "iff"
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20150907 05:54:28< shadowm> vultraz: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iff
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20150907 06:43:40< wedge009> Yeah, I remember running into that during first year at uni. Very easy to mistake for a typo.
20150907 06:49:42< vultraz> huh
20150907 06:50:45< fabi> vultraz: iff is a special word meaningful in computer science. 
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20150907 07:22:50< Aginor> vultraz: if and only if
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20150907 07:25:55< Aginor> celmin|sleep: ping?
20150907 07:26:30< Aginor> he'll be asleep if he's sensible :)
20150907 07:26:59< vultraz> heh
20150907 07:27:14< Aginor>  /ctcp time is useful :)
20150907 07:32:24< vultraz> Could you possibly help me with something?
20150907 07:33:06< Aginor> sure, in maybe 15 minutes?
20150907 07:45:57< Aginor> vultraz: I'm all virtual ears and helpfulness
20150907 07:46:36< Aginor> well, the helpfulness is real :)
20150907 07:47:02< vultraz> Ok, so I decided to take a look at the weird jerky scrolling in the credits screen.
20150907 07:48:29< Aginor> yes?
20150907 07:48:51< vultraz> Hopefully I'm not imagining it, but it looks like the previous lines don't get undrawn before the next line is drawn
20150907 07:49:33< Aginor> I haven't noticed this behaviour myself, but I am rather bad at paying attention to credits screens
20150907 07:49:43< Aginor> is this with SDL1.2 or SDL2?
20150907 07:49:51< vultraz> Current master, so 1.2
20150907 07:50:06< shadowm_desktop> Current master can be built with SDL 2 too. :p
20150907 07:50:07< Aginor> ok
20150907 07:50:18< vultraz> I haven't tried that
20150907 07:50:29< vultraz> Waiting for the sdl2 merge before attempting 
20150907 07:50:45< vultraz> But wanted to see first if someone else noticed it, so I know it's not just my monitor
20150907 07:50:58< Aginor> vultraz: I will request people to try it out on various platforms before the merge happens
20150907 07:51:08< Aginor> vultraz: I'll build and try it out
20150907 07:51:45< shadowm> The credits screen has always been a very finnicky thing, and it tends to behave oddly when frames are missed due to high load.
20150907 07:52:37< shadowm> And also when encountering legacy WML format markup in unexpected places.
20150907 07:55:54< shadowm> I think I just spotted the bug you are seeing.
20150907 07:56:54 * Aginor is still compiling
20150907 07:57:17< shadowm> I always assumed it was just my monitor since it only happened at high speeds, but after 50 or so attempts I managed to get a screenshot.
20150907 07:58:01< shadowm> http://i.imgur.com/2lEgTrE.jpg
20150907 07:59:42< shadowm> More evidence: http://i.imgur.com/tNtQfnn.jpg
20150907 08:00:07< shadowm> After 50 more attempts.
20150907 08:00:30< vultraz> ah, so I was right
20150907 08:01:55< Aginor> vultraz: you were on windows, right?
20150907 08:02:01< vultraz> 10, yes
20150907 08:03:39< Aginor> ok
20150907 08:03:48< Aginor> thanks :)
20150907 08:04:01 * Aginor is trying to find the credit screen code
20150907 08:04:25< shadowm> Aginor: src/about.cpp
20150907 08:05:03< shadowm> Also, this is something many people don't know, but you can use the up and down arrow keys to speed up/slow down the scroll effect.
20150907 08:05:17< shadowm> The trail effect is most noticeable to me at top speed.
20150907 08:06:15< shadowm> Otherwise it looks off at normal speed, but it's not obvious why (other than it being a  very trite and cheap effect, that is).
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20150907 08:08:08< Aginor> yeah, I just noticed
20150907 08:09:40< Aginor> the code is making me uneasy, but I'm not spotting anything obviously wrong
20150907 08:09:41< vultraz> this code is very confusing 
20150907 08:10:01< Aginor> mind you, I'm getting tired so I'm likely to miss things
20150907 08:13:35< Aginor> line 351 looks dodgy, that's saying hardware acceperation is actually used, I think that's different from the rest of game
20150907 08:15:13< vultraz> acceperation? 
20150907 08:16:26< Aginor> acceleration
20150907 08:16:29< Aginor> even
20150907 08:16:33< shadowm> I don't think that's what that flag does in this case. SDL can use RLE compression to minimize a surface pixmap's memory footprint.
20150907 08:16:51< Aginor> you're probably right
20150907 08:16:51< shadowm> This is most commonly used in Wesnoth for surfaces entered into the permanent image cache.
20150907 08:17:41< Aginor> the problem is likely to be around line block 370 or the block below that draws the actual text
20150907 08:17:46< shadowm> It also has blitting backends optimized to deal with compressed pixmaps.
20150907 08:17:58< Aginor> it looks like the previous image is rendered for a frame on occasion
20150907 08:18:33< shadowm> Also, this surprised me back in the day too, but Wesnoth actually asks SDL for a hardware surface for the framebuffer on all platforms that aren't Windows or OS X.
20150907 08:19:18< Aginor> I haven't looked too much at that code yet around the hardware acceleration
20150907 08:19:40< shadowm> You can see this in video.cpp by searching for the SDL_HWSURFACE value and tracing back where it's used (same file, the SDL_SetVideoMode call).
20150907 08:20:42< Aginor> I think I came across it at the very start, but I haven't looked too much in there since
20150907 08:23:15< vultraz> oh my god what have I done
20150907 08:23:26< shadowm> You tried to fix it didn't you. :p
20150907 08:23:32< vultraz> I accidentally made it so text is never undrawn 
20150907 08:23:42< vultraz> so it becomes one huge smooth line of white
20150907 08:23:42< Aginor> vultraz: do the opposite :D
20150907 08:23:46< vultraz> albeit no more stuttering 
20150907 08:24:34< vultraz> ok let's see
20150907 08:24:39< vultraz> I set text_surf = NULL; at line 376..
20150907 08:25:22< vultraz> hm, I see...
20150907 08:27:26< vultraz> ok no that doesn't work
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20150907 08:34:12< vultraz> bleh
20150907 08:34:21< vultraz> I do not understand this code
20150907 08:38:06< Aginor> it looks like there might be some local coordinates going on
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20150907 08:38:18< Aginor> but I'm not sure
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20150907 08:47:01< Aginor> who's looking after travis?
20150907 08:47:20< Aginor> and does the travis server have SDL2_* installed?
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20150907 09:09:39< loonycyborg> Aginor: Actually I don't think that globbing for sourcefiles would work in cmake, because projectfile wouldn't be automatically updated when adding new files.
20150907 09:10:17< loonycyborg> But it doesn't matter for me enough to test it..
20150907 09:10:28< loonycyborg> I'm skipping cmake for different reasons
20150907 09:10:47< loonycyborg> namely that it preserves all annoying design flaws of autotools
20150907 09:10:50< Aginor> loonycyborg: I think it's undesirable even if it works
20150907 09:11:23< loonycyborg> if I wanted a kludge with nonstandard language with makefile generation I'd use autotools
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20150907 09:13:22< loonycyborg> In fact I find this so insulting that I even won't contribute to any project if it would require me to use cmake..
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20150907 09:14:20< Aginor> loonycyborg: so you _really_ don't like it eh? :D
20150907 09:14:32< loonycyborg> it's understatement
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20150907 09:15:32< Aginor> fair enough
20150907 09:22:34 * Aginor flips the scons flag to build with SDL2 by default on the sdl2 branch
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20150907 11:20:40< Nebri> Good morning all, anybody here that I can speak to? I'm interested in learning how to become a contributor for programming
20150907 11:22:24< vultraz> Hello
20150907 11:22:31< vultraz> Have you read the post in the topic?
20150907 11:22:55< Nebri> I'm currently reading it over :)
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20150907 11:27:37< Nebri> @vultraz according to that post you've been learning C++ as well. I deal primarily in C# as a web developer. May I ask what tools your using as your dev enviorment in windows?
20150907 11:29:45< vultraz> I build wesnoth with codeblocks 13.12 and tdm gcc 5.1.0 on windows 10
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20150907 11:48:30< wedge009> From what I understand there's no specific tool set prescribed, just use what you're most comfortable with that works.
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20150907 11:50:04< wedge009> I spent quite a bit of time just now trying to work out why my build stopped working. Turns out I must have accidentally copied some cfg files. Windows automatically appends ' - Copy' to the file name and the preprocessor doesn't like that. XD
20150907 11:50:14< wedge009> The white-space, I mean.
20150907 11:50:39< wedge009> Only discovered that after checking the stderr.txt. Duh, always in the last place you look, right?
20150907 11:53:23< fabi> rofl
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20150907 12:40:49< gfgtdf> mattsc: i sometimes get this error when replaying a scenario: http://pastebin.com/MTZDN3Hg
20150907 12:41:14< gfgtdf> mattsc: i thought you could maybe know what it emans, in not sure ahether this bug is in teh ai code or in teh replay code
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20150907 12:58:29< celmin|sleep> Aginor: Pong.
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20150907 13:11:29< wedge009> Anyone tried to join a multiplayer game on an SDL2 build?
20150907 13:12:27< pydsigner> Wow, so SDL2 is working that well now?
20150907 13:13:54< wedge009> Uh, no. That's my point. I seem to crash when trying to join.
20150907 13:15:29< wedge009> Hmm, the crash is under the 'experimental lobby'. On the default lobby there's a horrible graphical glitch.
20150907 13:15:56< celticminstrel> Was that the place that still uses SDL_net?
20150907 13:16:06< celticminstrel> Or was that the addon server?
20150907 13:16:37< wedge009> No, just using a locally hosted server.
20150907 13:16:44< wedge009> It seems to be graphics related.
20150907 13:17:39< wedge009> Unhandled exception in sdl_blit() of src/sdl/utils.hpp
20150907 13:18:18< celticminstrel> I'm guessing it doesn't show the exception details.
20150907 13:19:22< wedge009> Not really. Just an access violation exception. I'm not expecting to fix this now, just wanted confirmation it wasn't just me.
20150907 13:19:42< celticminstrel> Access violation isn't quite an exception...
20150907 13:20:03< celticminstrel> I'd test for you but I don't have an SDL2 build handy yet.
20150907 13:20:20< wedge009> Well, that's what the window says, 'Unhandled exception'.
20150907 13:20:29< celticminstrel> Oh, that window.
20150907 13:20:54< celticminstrel> Well, I guess it is an exception, just not a C++ exception, which is what I usually think of when I hear "exception".
20150907 13:21:10< wedge009> Oh, sorry.
20150907 13:21:26< wedge009> That there's still an ugly glitch when using the default lobby means there's another thing to add to the list for SDL2.
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20150907 15:15:04< vultraz> wedge009, Aginor: will SDL2 touch upon hardware acceleration at all?
20150907 15:15:14< vultraz> s/SDL2/the SDL2 transition
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20150907 15:49:53< irker519> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 5533d5728ac5 / data/ai/micro_ais/ (cas/ca_fast_combat.lua cas/ca_fast_combat_leader.lua micro_ai_wml_tag.lua): Fast Micro AI: separate out attacks by AI leader http://git.io/vZIKf
20150907 15:50:42< Soliton> zookeeper: going to do anything more on PR 478?
20150907 15:52:46< zookeeper> i didn't end up entirely clear whether the optionalless needed to be removed or not the last time, but if it's not needed then i guess not
20150907 15:53:35< Soliton> no, that's cool either way with me. only thing left was moving the vector to a smaller scope, i think.
20150907 15:53:50< zookeeper> oh right, that
20150907 15:55:09< zookeeper> yeah i'll move that right away
20150907 15:58:42< zookeeper> there. now just to wait for travis to roll the dice
20150907 16:17:54< irker519> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 67f868306e8d / data/ai/micro_ais/cas/ (ca_fast_attack_utils.lua ca_fast_combat.lua ca_fast_combat_leader.lua): Fast Micro AI: clean up unused debug output http://git.io/vZISe
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20150907 16:23:46< mattsc> gfgtdf: that error happens when the WML tries to set up a [micro_ai] tag for a side that does not exist.
20150907 16:24:12< mattsc> So I would not call that a bug, but a “user mistake”.
20150907 16:25:40< mattsc> Of course, I could add a check for existance of the side to micro_ai_helper.lua if you think that should be done, but one could also argue that it points out problems with the scenario WML, so it might be good to keep it this way.
20150907 16:25:46< mattsc> I’m fine with it either way.
20150907 16:30:50< pydsigner> If it ain't broke, ...
20150907 16:34:22< mattsc> Well, yeah, but on second thought, it would make sense to produce an error message that can actually be understand by people other than … well, me.
20150907 16:34:32< mattsc> So I think I will do that.
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20150907 16:44:00< mattsc> Ah, actually, I am doing that already:
20150907 16:44:02< mattsc> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/data/ai/micro_ais/micro_ai_wml_tag.lua#L54
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20150907 17:15:05< celmin|busy> That MicroAI WML action function is massive.
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20150907 17:21:52< celticminstrel> With a bit of refactoring, it could probably be arranged so that people can easily install custom micro AIs.
20150907 17:24:54< mattsc> celticminstrel: I’m sure that’s true.
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20150907 17:26:03< mattsc> The main hurdle, for most people, is probably the AI code itself though.
20150907 17:26:46< mattsc> But I am not opposed to somebody doing what you’re suggesting at all.
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20150907 17:40:35< gfgtdf> mattsc: i dont really know the wml/lua code of that particular scenario
20150907 17:40:48< gfgtdf> mattsc: but im suprised that ai code uns in replays at all
20150907 17:40:52< gfgtdf> runs*
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20150907 18:18:28< gfgtdf> fabi: you wantd to file a bug report (idk what it was exactly)
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20150907 18:19:35< fabi> gfgtdf: Yes. Thank you for the hint. It is another assertion exit with multiplayer campaigns. But this one is only a bordercase and not that important. Still it should not get forgotten about.
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20150907 18:35:24< mattsc> gfgtdf: I think that it’s not the AI code itself, but the WML/Lua code of the [micro_ai] tag setting up the AI (which is inside an event)
20150907 18:35:38< mattsc> gfgtdf: if you PM me the replay file, I’ll have a look at it
20150907 18:36:33< gfgtdf> mattsc: the replay file currently crashes becasue of http://gna.org/bugs/?23856
20150907 18:36:43< gfgtdf> mattsc: will sens you when i uploaded a fix for that
20150907 18:36:47< gfgtdf> send
20150907 18:37:05< mattsc> gfgtdf: okay, sounds good
20150907 18:44:11< celticminstrel> I get the impression that XCode's periodic git calls may somehow be interfering with my rebases.
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20150907 18:56:04< Elvish_Hunter> Hi all
20150907 18:56:35< irker519> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 78e03f33f357 / data/tools/wmllint-1.4: wmllint-1.4: removed tabs http://git.io/vZLRh
20150907 18:56:37< irker519> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 3cbbede2717c / data/tools/GUI.pyw: GUI.pyw: use specific tooltip font http://git.io/vZLRj
20150907 18:56:39< irker519> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 814d9d14781c / data/tools/GUI.pyw: GUI.pyw: allow changing tooltip text at runtime http://git.io/vZL0e
20150907 18:56:41< irker519> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 2e574252cb74 / data/tools/GUI.pyw: GUI.pyw: added more tooltips http://git.io/vZL0v
20150907 18:58:43< gfgtdf> shadowm: you have a plan when 1.12.5 will come out ?
20150907 18:58:51< Elvish_Hunter> vultraz: I removed the labels from the buttons in GUI.pyw and replaced them with tooltips, please let me know if it's better now or before
20150907 18:59:13< celticminstrel> ...heh, Aginor probably actually broke the escape key special-case...
20150907 18:59:37< Elvish_Hunter> After that, I plan to add only one more feature to tooltips, then I'll backport the modifications
20150907 19:00:49< celticminstrel> Well, not broke so much as "it might trigger in unexpected circumstances in addition to when it should trigger".
20150907 19:10:10< Aginor> vultraz: not if I can avoid it. Step 1 is to get it all working
20150907 19:11:44< celticminstrel> Anyway Aginor, I've rebased the PR against the sdl2 branch, but haven't tested anything yet.
20150907 19:11:52< Aginor> celticminstrel: which escape key? - My changes are only in sdl2
20150907 19:12:01< Aginor> celticminstrel: does it compile yet? :)
20150907 19:12:18< celticminstrel> I haven't even tested that. >_>
20150907 19:12:30< Aginor> fair enough ;)
20150907 19:12:36< Aginor> I suspect the answer is no then
20150907 19:12:41< Aginor> thank you though
20150907 19:12:57< celticminstrel> It might not have been you, but someone merged all the xxx_event_execute functions in the hotkey command_executor into a single event_execute function.
20150907 19:13:16< celticminstrel> Then didn't check if the event was actually a key event before accessing event.key.keysym.
20150907 19:14:37< Aginor> I did do that merge, but there wasn't any special case as far as I could tell
20150907 19:14:43< Aginor> if I broke it, I'll fix it.
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20150907 19:15:14< celticminstrel> Well, importing my PR would also fix it, if you don't mind waiting.
20150907 19:15:37< Aginor> unless you've done more than rebasing it won't compile with your PR
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20150907 19:15:56< Aginor> I manually brought it in yesterday and things were a bit broken
20150907 19:16:33< celticminstrel> I changed a couple things (like exit(0) in the signal handler), but probably nothing relevant to SDL2.
20150907 19:16:45< Aginor> sounds good
20150907 19:17:07< celticminstrel> It still needs SDL2_ttf and SDL2_net, right?
20150907 19:17:14< Aginor> aye
20150907 19:17:20< celticminstrel> What about SDL2_image?
20150907 19:17:28< Aginor> that too
20150907 19:17:36< celticminstrel> I assume SDL2_mixer as well.
20150907 19:17:49< Aginor> indeed, I was just about to write that
20150907 19:18:40< celticminstrel> That should be everything, right?
20150907 19:19:09< Aginor> SDL2 itself obviously, but yeah, that should be all
20150907 19:19:21< celticminstrel> Well yeah.
20150907 19:19:47< celticminstrel> Now I just have to wait for Firefox to stop hanging. :/
20150907 19:19:58< Aginor> feel free to make a PR with the updated xcode project too :)
20150907 19:20:17< celticminstrel> I don't even know if I'll need to update the XCode project.
20150907 19:20:23< Aginor> ah
20150907 19:20:24< celticminstrel> But if I do, then sure.
20150907 19:20:27< Aginor> probably not
20150907 19:20:37< Aginor> you can build using scons or cmake
20150907 19:20:50< celticminstrel> If they're called SDL.framework etc, then I shouldn't need to.
20150907 19:21:07< celticminstrel> But if they're called SDL2.framework etc, then I will.
20150907 19:21:23< Aginor> they're probably going to be caled SDL2.*
20150907 19:21:30< Aginor> cmake ../ -DENABLE_SDL2=TRUE -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DENABLE_NLS=FALSE -DENABLE_STRICT_COMPILATION=TRUE
20150907 19:21:40< Aginor> mkdir cbuild && cd cbuild first
20150907 19:22:12< celticminstrel> Unrelatedly, does CMake have a mode that updates an existing project file?
20150907 19:22:33< Aginor> yeah, it does that on its own if anything has changed
20150907 19:22:57< Aginor> umm
20150907 19:23:00< celticminstrel> So it won't just blindly overwrite everything if the project file already exists?
20150907 19:23:04< Aginor> you don't mean Make here?
20150907 19:23:11< celticminstrel> No, I mean CMake.
20150907 19:23:27< Aginor> which, by default, spits out makefiles
20150907 19:23:42< celticminstrel> But it can also output project files for MSVC, XCode, etc.
20150907 19:23:45< Aginor> I don't know what the other generators do
20150907 19:24:00< Aginor> I don't think it'll update them, but I havn't used them much
20150907 19:24:38< celticminstrel> And scons builds directly, right? It doesn't produce makefiles or project files or anything.
20150907 19:24:53< Aginor> afaik, the xcode generator is broken in cmake 3.0
20150907 19:25:06< celticminstrel> So I've heard.
20150907 19:25:08< Aginor> scons build directly, it uses ./build as its working dir
20150907 19:26:47 * Aginor swears at systemd
20150907 19:26:53< Aginor> it ate my bash history, again.
20150907 19:28:57 * celticminstrel gives up on Firefox.
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20150907 19:31:49< mattsc> Elvish_Hunter: hi
20150907 19:32:13< Elvish_Hunter> Hi mattsc
20150907 19:32:16< mattsc> I can confirm that the tooltips work for me on OS X (didn’t follow this closely enough to see if somebody else has done that already)
20150907 19:32:27< mattsc> As for which I like better, I am torn.
20150907 19:32:32< Elvish_Hunter> Yes, celticminstrel did it
20150907 19:32:39< mattsc> Okay, great.
20150907 19:32:44< celticminstrel> What did I do now?
20150907 19:32:52< celticminstrel> I didn't confirm they work.
20150907 19:32:59< celticminstrel> I only confirmed they look normal.
20150907 19:33:08< celticminstrel> Where do I find SDL2_ttf etc?
20150907 19:33:10< Elvish_Hunter> Ah, sorry
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20150907 19:33:35< Aginor> celticminstrel: os x, homebrew?
20150907 19:33:50< Aginor> they'll be in /usr/local
20150907 19:33:54< mattsc> I think the ones without labels look nicer, but on the other hand I like knowing what the buttons mean right away on a tool that I don’t use very often.
20150907 19:33:59< celticminstrel> I mean from the SDL website.
20150907 19:34:02< Aginor> if they're not there, do brew install
20150907 19:34:18< mattsc> Elvish_Hunter: On the other hand, the tooltips pop up very quickly, so I think it is good the way it is now.
20150907 19:34:28< Aginor> https://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_net/
20150907 19:34:31< celticminstrel> I already have them as libs somwhere in /opt/local, but XCode is using frameworks, so I think I should probably stick with that.
20150907 19:34:40< Aginor> https://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/
20150907 19:35:02< Aginor> https://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_image/
20150907 19:35:13< Aginor> https://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_ttf/
20150907 19:35:28< Elvish_Hunter> mattsc: I see. I was undecided too, so I thought "let's commit it and hear what my fellow devs think" :)
20150907 19:35:37< celticminstrel> I have no idea how you found those, but thanks.
20150907 19:35:45< Aginor> mind you, I've never built any of these from source
20150907 19:35:50< Aginor> celticminstrel: I used google :D
20150907 19:35:57< celticminstrel> Bah, Google.
20150907 19:36:04< Elvish_Hunter> On the other hand, it was also a test for when I'll rewrite trackplacer
20150907 19:36:04< Aginor> :D
20150907 19:36:09< celticminstrel> They should be accessible from the homepage.
20150907 19:36:27< celticminstrel> I'm not building them from source, I'm getting the precompiled binaries.
20150907 19:36:36< Aginor> I agree, but they're website is horrible to navigate so I didn't even try
20150907 19:36:54< celticminstrel> Yeah well, I haven't been to their website for years so I didn't know it'd gotten so much worse.
20150907 19:40:49< Aginor> fair enough
20150907 19:41:25< mattsc> Elvish_Hunter: sounds like a plan to me.  So, as far as I am conccerned, the way you have it now is good.
20150907 19:42:02< Aginor> celticminstrel: you haven't updated the PR yet so I can't check it out
20150907 19:42:19< celticminstrel> I haven't?
20150907 19:43:00< celticminstrel> Oh right, I think I know what happened.
20150907 19:43:27< Aginor> I thought I was doing something horribly wrong here while trying to find your changes
20150907 19:43:27< celticminstrel> It doesn't seem to like pushing to a branch with a different name in the remote repo.
20150907 19:44:38< Aginor> ah
20150907 19:45:09< celticminstrel> And there was a branch with the same name as the remote branch I tried to push to, so it probably pushed that instead.
20150907 19:46:51< celticminstrel> Hmm, link error for SDL_mutexP.
20150907 19:49:35< celticminstrel> The PR is kinda messy-looking now with unrelated commits (due to rebasing), but if you go to the bottom you'll see the actually relevant ones all together.
20150907 19:49:59< Aginor> you're doing something different from me when building then
20150907 19:50:11< celticminstrel> Maybe.
20150907 19:50:46< celticminstrel> I can't change the base of the pull request from master branch to sdl2 branch... I guess that's why there's unrelated commits.
20150907 19:53:36< celticminstrel> Hmm. "Symbols not found for architecture i386"
20150907 19:54:02< celticminstrel> So... does that mean it might be found for architecture x86_64?
20150907 19:54:08< Aginor> yes
20150907 19:54:35< Aginor> but depending on how you have things set up there might be other missing symbols instead
20150907 19:55:02< celticminstrel> Okay, clean build.
20150907 19:55:32< celticminstrel> That should generally be the first thing to try when swapping out library versions.
20150907 19:56:44< celticminstrel> Which means it's going to take forever to complete.
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20150907 20:03:09< Aginor> yeah :/
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20150907 20:06:05< Aginor> celticminstrel: didn't we discuss SIGINT yesterday too?
20150907 20:06:16< celticminstrel> Oh right, I forgot.
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20150907 20:11:32< Aginor> celticminstrel: I need to get ready for work and all of that stuff, I'll test and review tonight properly
20150907 20:11:44< celticminstrel> Might be another commit or two by then..
20150907 20:11:51< Aginor> fair enough
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20150907 20:29:29< shadowm> gfgtdf: Yes, "not yet" is the plan.
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20150907 21:07:05< celticminstrel> I have no idea where SDL_mutexP and SDL_mutexV are defined. :|
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20150907 21:08:51< celticminstrel> I would've expected them to be in SDL2.framework.
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20150907 21:16:04< celticminstrel> Oh, wait, these are referenced directly from Wesnoth, so it's possible they were actually removed?
20150907 21:17:08< celticminstrel> ...they're macros. :S
20150907 21:18:50< Elvish_Hunter> Now I have to go. Bye!
20150907 21:18:57< celticminstrel> Ohhh, I think I understand the issue, it's using SDL1 headers but linking to SDL2.
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20150907 21:29:29< celticminstrel> Okay, now the linker can't find SDL_main... :|
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20150907 21:37:02< wedge009> vultraz: I'm probably not the right person to ask, but I believe that's the long-term goal. But for now, I think we're just trying to get everything working with SDL2 without the bugs/regressions we've seen so far.
20150907 21:39:06< shadowm> ^
20150907 21:39:41< shadowm> celticminstrel: Are SDL and SDLmain somewhere near the end of the linker command line?
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20150907 21:46:25< Aginor> celticminstrel: are you building in osx or not?
20150907 21:46:34< Aginor> s/osx/xcode/
20150907 21:46:48< Aginor> I compiled on osx using cmake and had no issues, but that won't have used the obj-c file
20150907 21:49:07< celticminstrel> I don't know.
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20150907 21:52:17< celticminstrel> If I were to hazard a guess, it would be that perhaps SDL2 doesn't replace your main()?
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20150907 21:58:53< celticminstrel> Doesn't look like that's the case...
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20150907 23:22:16< irker400> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master e13126208078 / data/scenario-test.cfg: Rephrase a bit of unwieldy Lua that causes issues with my text editor http://git.io/vZtmf
20150907 23:25:21< irker400> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:1.12 54d542033b0c / data/scenario-test.cfg: Rephrase a bit of unwieldy Lua that causes issues with my text editor http://git.io/vZtmC
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