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20150910 00:00:10< celticminstrel> (I think it's -Wunused)
20150910 00:09:23< celticminstrel> I guess I'll delete all my spare quit-confirm branches. I'll keep the final one around a bit longer just in case.
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20150910 00:55:48< celticminstrel> Hm. I think I need to get a display_context from within attack_type...
20150910 00:56:59< celticminstrel> I guess resources:: it is.
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20150910 01:23:43< celticminstrel> ...why the heck is unit_creator in src/actions/?
20150910 01:24:01 * celticminstrel is updating the XCode project right now, BTW.
20150910 01:27:18< mattsc> great
20150910 01:29:22< celticminstrel> ...why are the filenames red after adding? :|
20150910 01:29:53< mattsc> they’re usually red when the file is missing
20150910 01:30:03< celticminstrel> I realize.
20150910 01:30:19< celticminstrel> But I dragged the files into the project, and they started out red.
20150910 01:30:55< mattsc> Hmm.  Maybe they are undead files?
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20150910 01:32:48< celticminstrel> Going to restart XCode and see if it helps.
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20150910 01:37:19< celticminstrel> Fixed. I guess I should avoid trying to add files while a build is in progress.
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20150910 01:46:37< celticminstrel> Now why do I suddenly have tons of untracked files?
20150910 01:51:40< celticminstrel> Where on earth did all these images come from?
20150910 01:52:33< celticminstrel> Well, whatever, they're gone now. (Maybe they were in the sdl2 branch for some reason? I dunno.)
20150910 01:55:25< irker920> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 348f3b480b3d / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Update XCode project http://git.io/vZWXD
20150910 02:13:41< celticminstrel> I did something really weird and got git all confused with tons of untracked files, but it's all good now. ...except I somehow lost that stashed quickfix for the erroneous warning.
20150910 02:15:16< celticminstrel> mattsc: Were you the one who decided to treat all warnings as errors? Would it be acceptable to disable that? I realize it's pretty good for keeping warnings down, but one of the warnings I'm getting is impossible to fix as far as I can tell (I think it's a bug in my version of clang that's issuing a warning where there shouldn't be one).
20150910 02:15:46< celticminstrel> It's not that hard for me to keep the stashed pragmas, mind you. Just a little irritating when I keep forgetting to reapply them.
20150910 02:17:43< mattsc> celticminstrel: I was the one who cleaned up the warnings (or asked others to do it on some of them) so that strict compiling could be enabled, but that was after somebody told me that that woiuld be a good thing to do.
20150910 02:17:58< celticminstrel> I think it is a good thing to do in general.
20150910 02:18:04< mattsc> That was quite some time ago and I don’t remember who that was or any of the other circumstances.
20150910 02:18:34< mattsc> Agreed; but I don’t have a strong personal feeling on it, so if it makes life easier for you at least for the time being, go ahead.
20150910 02:18:51< celticminstrel> Although, personally, I'd probably not enable quite so many warnings if I had -Werror on, but still, it's not a bad thing in general.
20150910 02:19:19< celticminstrel> (Actually what I've done in my other project is to use -Werror= to turn specific warnings into errors.)
20150910 02:20:02< mattsc> Sure, feel free to do it either way.  As I have mentioned before, I know very little about these kinds of things, so no objections from me.
20150910 02:20:13< mattsc> celticminstrel: btw, the build compiles and runs just fine after your changes up there.
20150910 02:20:32< mattsc> (not that there really was a question that it would, but I figured I could confirm it anyway)
20150910 02:20:55< celticminstrel> Okay, good... I did test, but only before doing something weird that messed up my repo.
20150910 02:21:14< mattsc> I hate when that happens …  :P
20150910 02:23:30< celticminstrel> Some how I ended up with a ton of untracked files, including lots of images that never existed before in images/attacks, images/halo, etc. (Not data/core/images, just images/.)
20150910 02:23:36< mattsc> celticminstrel: another btw, I will still work on that script; but with traveling starting in a few days, I’m under lots of pressure to get some work finished before then, so I don’t have much time for Wesnoth at all at the moment.
20150910 02:23:55< celticminstrel> Fine with me.
20150910 02:23:57< mattsc> I also wasted way too much time trying to get 10.6 installed on that computer …
20150910 02:24:38< mattsc> I think there’s a reason why I stopped using that machine several years ago  :P
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20150910 02:38:48< celticminstrel> I'll replace -Werror with a set of -Werror= flags based on currently-enabled warnings, and might just add new -Werror= flags as other things come up.
20150910 02:39:14< celticminstrel> ...it'd be kinda nice if XCode would offer "Yes", "No", and "Error" for individual warnings, rather than just "Yes" or "No".
20150910 02:41:45< matthiaskrgr> -Wesnoth   
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20150910 02:50:03< irker920> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 480a2a746c4e / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: XCode project: Remove -Werror setting http://git.io/vZWd6
20150910 02:52:34< irker920> wesnoth: Elias Pschernig wesnoth:master 3ab3db3166ed / data/tools/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [units.wesnoth.org] Converted the script to Python 3. http://git.io/vZWFY
20150910 02:59:07< celticminstrel> Whoa.
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20150910 03:56:09< celticminstrel> Hopefully, backstab will still work.
20150910 03:56:24< celticminstrel> "turned to stone or otherwise paralyzed"
20150910 03:56:44< celticminstrel> That should just be something like status=petrified, right?
20150910 04:01:33< irker920> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 9ca044abdb4f / projectfiles/CodeBlocks/wesnoth.cbp: Updated codeblock projectfile http://git.io/vZlJy
20150910 04:16:08< celticminstrel> I broke backstab.
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20150910 04:43:02< celticminstrel> I can't see a way to petrify a unit with debug commands.
20150910 04:47:56< mattsc> lua wesnoth.wml_actions.petrify { type = ‘Orcish Grunt’ }
20150910 04:48:36< celticminstrel> And what about reversing it? unpetrify?
20150910 04:49:13< mattsc> yep
20150910 04:50:01< celticminstrel> So, backstab works now, but my custom flank doesn't.
20150910 04:50:53< celticminstrel> Well, that might be a completely different issue though, because it doesn't even show up. So it's probably an error in my WML.
20150910 04:55:09 * celticminstrel is also adding :unit status= though.
20150910 04:55:35< mattsc> sounds good to me
20150910 04:55:52< mattsc> I’m off now though, good night
20150910 04:55:55< celticminstrel> Bye.
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20150910 05:06:21< celticminstrel> ...oh, duh. No wonder it didn't work.
20150910 05:06:33< celticminstrel> I was adding a [damage] ability rather than a weapon special.
20150910 05:06:39< celticminstrel> (Which of course does nothing.)
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20150910 05:37:53< timotei>  Guys, could you please complete a quick 5 mins survey I need for my dissertation thesis?
20150910 05:37:57< timotei> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fOKZc5XpCG1lTB3yt47cQVTguVWSCV4jqlcrhMPLZhc/viewform
20150910 05:38:05< timotei> Thanks a lot! :)
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20150910 07:47:09< wedge009> celticminstrel, Aginor: Not really. I simply noted an alpha blending issue with colour cursors and SDL2. I put in a work-around where colour cursors wouldn't leave behind a trail of itself, but it was rejected on the grounds that proper colour cursors should be implemented using SDL2's capabilities.
20150910 07:48:13< wedge009> I was pointed to SDL_CreateSystemCursor, had a look around at some other things for myself, but don't yet have an understanding to implement things on my own. For the time-being have left the work-around in my personal working copy, but the PR is closed.
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20150910 10:44:23< Aginor> timotei: where's your statement from your ehtics group?
20150910 10:44:38< Aginor> :S
20150910 10:44:40< Aginor> :D even
20150910 10:45:27< Aginor> wedge009: fair enoug re colour curses. I guess the answer to celmin|sleep is that nobody isdoing anything to them at the moment then.
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20150910 10:56:20< irker284> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 4f078f26ef13 / data/tools/GUI.pyw: GUI.pyw: small label tweaks http://git.io/vZ8Rt
20150910 11:01:46< irker284> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 58e17f3e2103 / data/campaigns/tutorial/maps/01_Tutorial_part_1.map: T S1: removed two extra villages near map border to prevent confusion http://git.io/vZ80t
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20150910 11:34:27< timotei> Aginor:  :D
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20150910 12:15:22< irker284> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 19e7adfe52fb / data/core/terrain-graphics.cfg: Use overgrown base for Ruined Human Castle (Chr) http://git.io/vZ81m
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20150910 14:21:17< mattsc> ancestral, celmin|sleep, Aginor, I forgot who else uses OS X:  I have updated the instructions how to build Wesnoth using Xcode at http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CompilingWesnothOnMacOSX#Build_using_XCode
20150910 14:22:06< mattsc> Obviously, the 10.6 and 10.7 instructions are still incomplete and might be modified, as I have not written that script yet, but that’s how I am expecting it to work out.
20150910 14:22:43< mattsc> Feel free to edit the instructions if you think anything is incomplete or wrong or unclear or something.
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20150910 16:57:01< Soliton> gfgtdf: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/fab8b9dc303d3be2ee5f1232443d0ce408e258ba/src/play_controller.cpp#L88  seems to me a like a good idea to write at least some comment on what this function does and why it uses those tags and keys.
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20150910 17:21:18< gfgtdf> Soliton: when readong a savefile/creating gamestate most parts of the config (like sides or events) are converted to c++ objects, but there are also some attributesthat arent so we use that function to copy them to a config
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20150910 18:22:13< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: maybe you shoudl also add a comment in RL about teh advance->advancement change since its  a compibility breaking wml change.
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20150910 18:24:19< celticminstrel> A comment in real life? :S
20150910 18:24:49< vultraz> release notes :P
20150910 18:25:17< celticminstrel> Shouldn't that be RN? :P
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20150910 18:40:53< irker598> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 2cf8bcdecb62 / changelog: Update changelog http://git.io/vZRed
20150910 18:41:34< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: y i mistyped
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20150910 18:44:37< celticminstrel> This contradicts itself: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/FilterWML#Filtering_Vision
20150910 18:44:46< celticminstrel> The StandardSideFilter part.
20150910 18:46:00< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: ?
20150910 18:46:55< celticminstrel> First it says "all matching sides must be able to see", then it says "If there is at least one matching side which can see...then the filter matches".
20150910 18:47:26< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: y i just saw it shortly after i typed '?'
20150910 18:47:34< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: idk what teh bahviour actualyl is
20150910 18:47:37< celticminstrel> Ah.
20150910 18:47:43< celticminstrel> Nor do I.
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20150910 18:49:04< gfgtdf> it reminds me of this bug: https://gna.org/bugs/?22064
20150910 18:50:27< celticminstrel> That's inherently circular... I'm not surprised it causes a stack overflow...
20150910 18:51:32< celticminstrel> To fix it you'd need to either disallow [filter_vision] nested under [hides] (probably not easy) or figure out how it should handle the unit with the ability.
20150910 18:53:59< celticminstrel> ...hmm. I could imagine [swarm] being deprecated in favour of [attacks]...
20150910 18:54:23< celticminstrel> Given, say, a formula= key in the weapon specials.
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20150910 18:56:09< celticminstrel> Though, that could alter the "[attacks] is applied before [swarm]: thing.
20150910 18:56:12< celticminstrel> ^"
20150910 18:56:13< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: reminds me of this bug: https://gna.org/bugs/?23063
20150910 18:58:27< celticminstrel> Variable substitution is slightly different from formulas, but same general idea, yeah.
20150910 18:59:18< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: but varible substition can invoke formua using teh $() syntax
20150910 18:59:44< celticminstrel> It's still slightly different though.
20150910 19:00:29< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: also i think there only a very few wml authors who know foruma good
20150910 19:00:29< celticminstrel> My impression was that shadowm would prefer not to use variable substitution outside of ActionWML (and I guess filter?) contexts... though I think it's already used in teleport abilities.
20150910 19:01:43< celticminstrel> Which is why I didn't use variable substitution for the movetype patching.
20150910 19:02:06< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: well teh movetype afaik doesn happed during teh game
20150910 19:02:32< celticminstrel> That happened at initialization time.
20150910 19:02:50< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: you canot use variable subtitution if there are no variables i'd think (the vconfig class id quite hard bound to teh game variable sif i rmember correctly)
20150910 19:03:00< celticminstrel> I'm not sure if unit abilities and specials are processed at init time or when the unit is placed on the map.
20150910 19:03:40< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: the varaible substutuion shodu happen when teh ability is used ofc
20150910 19:03:43< gfgtdf> should
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20150910 19:04:14< celticminstrel> Ah, true, so it may be processed at init time but substitution won't happen until a game is in progress.
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20150910 21:31:52< BeoXTC_> hi
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20150910 21:38:40< Catoptromancy> zookeeper, desynced
20150910 21:38:46< Catoptromancy> but other player not using new binary
20150910 21:42:10< Catoptromancy> other player also made server if it matters
20150910 21:42:15< zookeeper> well that's to be expected
20150910 21:42:27< zookeeper> no, doesn't matter
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20150910 22:10:34< irker285> wesnoth: Elias Pschernig wesnoth:master f8fb04093ab1 / data/tools/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [units.wesnoth.org] fix some small issues http://git.io/vZ0kt
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20150910 22:51:56< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: which irc client do you use ?
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20150910 23:12:24< celticminstrel> gfgtdf: Colloquy, why?
20150910 23:12:48< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: your message from 20150910 01:23:43
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20150910 23:12:54< celticminstrel> ?
20150910 23:13:07< gfgtdf> has some stragen  character in it
20150910 23:13:16< gfgtdf> strange*
20150910 23:13:19< celticminstrel> What message?
20150910 23:13:31< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: from 20150910 01:23:43
20150910 23:13:43< celticminstrel> ...
20150910 23:13:58< shadowm> http://www.wesnoth.org/irclogs/2015/09/%23wesnoth-dev.2015-09-10.log
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20150910 23:14:48< celticminstrel> My browser thinks it's a binary file and wants me to download it. ><
20150910 23:15:38< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: its a text file
20150910 23:15:51< celticminstrel> I know.
20150910 23:15:56< celticminstrel> My browser doesn't.
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20150910 23:20:07< mattsc> celticminstrel: I get the same from my browser, but it is because of that character in your message that gfgtdf mentioned
20150910 23:20:19< celticminstrel> Yeah.
20150910 23:20:26< mattsc> If you save the file, remove that line, and then open in browser, it treats it as a text file.
20150910 23:20:44< mattsc> I am using Colloquy too, btw.
20150910 23:21:14< celticminstrel> I think Colloquy occasionally puts control characters into my messages.
20150910 23:21:25< celticminstrel> Maybe they've fixed that, I haven't updated for awhile.
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20150910 23:22:18< mattsc> If I look at it in TextWrangler, it shows up as the upside down question mark at the beginning of a question that’s used in Spanish
20150910 23:22:29< mattsc> to complement the question mark at the end of the sentence
20150910 23:23:44< mattsc> After I enable “show invisibles”, that is, so it might not be that mark directly
20150910 23:24:10< shadowm> That's just your editor trying too hard. It really is U+0008 BACKSPACE.
20150910 23:24:29< mattsc> Yeah, I just noticed that …
20150910 23:24:36< shadowm> (Editor and/or presentation backend.)
20150910 23:25:08< mattsc> Because I can produce that symbol with alt-? and it looks slightly differently.
20150910 23:25:33< mattsc> celticminstrel: anyways, just thought I give you whatever information I have; probably doesn’t help
20150910 23:25:37< celticminstrel> Backspace. I'm not surprised.
20150910 23:25:40< shadowm> celticminstrel's browser is also trying too hard.
20150910 23:25:54< celticminstrel> Quite possibly.
20150910 23:26:06< celticminstrel> I'd guess the server claims it's text/plain, right?
20150910 23:26:17< celticminstrel> It should just accept that and display it. :/
20150910 23:26:33< shadowm> Content-Type: "text/plain; charset=UTF-8"
20150910 23:26:55 * celticminstrel uses Firefox.
20150910 23:27:16< shadowm> I use Firefox too and it displays it just fine for ,e.me.
20150910 23:27:35< celticminstrel> Might be a Mac-specific thing. Or the result of settings or an add-on.
20150910 23:27:38< shadowm> That wasn't on purpose.
20150910 23:27:46< mattsc> celticminstrel: Firefox here too
20150910 23:28:02< celticminstrel> More likely the former, then.
20150910 23:28:26< gfgtdf> shadowm: i also have firefox and i also asks me do download (as a text file)
20150910 23:28:31< gfgtdf> (windows)
20150910 23:28:45< shadowm> Evidently, my Firefox is smarter than everyone'e else.s
20150910 23:28:57< zookeeper> celticminstrel, sorry, failed to make the comments today
20150910 23:29:12< celticminstrel> Evidently!
20150910 23:37:28< mattsc> celticminstrel: View -> Text Encoding -> Unicode in the Firefox main menu
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20150910 23:38:17< celticminstrel> Still asks me to download it.
20150910 23:39:08< mattsc> even if you open a new tab and try to load it there?
20150910 23:39:15< celticminstrel> Yeah.
20150910 23:40:00< mattsc> okay - for me it opens as a text file in the browser then
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