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20150922 03:28:54< celticminstrel> I kinda want to deprecate all the set_dialog_* functions and put them in a different table.
20150922 03:31:44< ancestral> Let’s deprecate GPL for art and music assets and use CC
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20150922 03:32:02< celticminstrel> That would be a great idea, but probably impossible.
20150922 03:32:30< ancestral> For all art nad music in the project, yes, but for maybe 90%? It’s possible.
20150922 03:33:05< celticminstrel> Possible in that the original artists are all still around to ask?
20150922 03:33:09< ancestral> Yes
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20150922 03:33:13< ancestral> I should qualify that
20150922 03:33:21< ancestral> 90% of stuff that matters (i.e. mainline)
20150922 03:33:22< pydsigner> It's at least on the list of things to do
20150922 03:33:39< ancestral> celticminstrel: It was suggested by the original creator
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20150922 03:34:22< shadowm> It's on my list, but mentioning it at every opportunity is not going to make it happen faster.
20150922 03:34:51< ancestral> Have I been mentioning it at every oppotunity?
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20150922 03:35:51< ancestral> shadowm: Although I do believe it would be a good idea to separate the core from the assets
20150922 03:35:53< vultraz> ancestral, celticminstrel: not impossible and also the plan
20150922 03:36:22< ancestral> Separate repos
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20150922 08:17:44< zookeeper> vultraz, http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=589614#p589614 <- i don't know why i've forgotten about that myself
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20150922 16:02:58< MonkeyRum> Hi all, I've just built wesnoth latest mater using xcode but it can't run, giving the following error:
20150922 16:03:03< MonkeyRum> Battle for Wesnoth v1.13.1+dev Started on Tue Sep 22 16:57:06 2015  Automatically found a possible data directory at /Users/alex/Library/Developer/Xcode/DerivedData/Wesnoth-agerbejfpbcpywccjtmgdrmnxqxk/Build/Products/Debug/Wesnoth.app/Contents/Resources Caught general exception: unrecognised option '-NSDocumentRevisionsDebugMode'
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20150922 16:20:47< celmin|zzzzzz> MonkeyRum: Edit your scheme to remove that option.
20150922 16:21:35< MonkeyRum> I have no arguments specified in my scheme
20150922 16:21:48< celmin|zzzzzz> It's not in arguments, it's a checkbox somewhere.
20150922 16:22:12< celmin|zzzzzz> Under Options > Document Versions, I think.
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20150922 16:25:43< MonkeyRum> celmin|zzzzzz: that worked, thanks (:
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20150922 16:30:47< celticminstrel> MonkeyRum: No problem
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20150922 17:15:34< celticminstrel> So, what about PR493?
20150922 17:28:46< vultraz> celticminstrel: how will return function in nested events?
20150922 17:30:03< celticminstrel> It would only return from the innermost event. A nested even only means the event is being registered at that time, it's still effectively the same as a toplevel event in all other ways.
20150922 17:30:29< celticminstrel> There would be no way to make return function in any other way, because once the nested event is called, the event it's nested in has already finished.
20150922 17:30:51< celticminstrel> Incidentally, I'm fairly sure this also applies to use of [fire_event], but I haven't verified.
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20150922 17:59:20< vultraz> ok, that makes sense
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20150922 18:03:26< celticminstrel> You know, wesnoth.get_unit(id) takes the underlying ID of a unit... but how do you get the underlying ID of a unit?
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20150922 18:08:21< vultraz> As far as I know, you can't
20150922 18:08:33< vultraz> It's not supposed to be user-facing
20150922 18:08:52< celticminstrel> So maybe that one-argument wesnoth.get_unit should just be removed?
20150922 18:09:00< celticminstrel> Does it even need to be deprecated?
20150922 18:09:27< celticminstrel> Though... I wonder, is the underlying ID the same as that number used to generate unit IDs for units that don't have a custom ID specified?
20150922 18:09:44< celticminstrel> eg "Elvish_Shaman-7"
20150922 18:10:26< vultraz> I believe so
20150922 18:10:49< celticminstrel> So you can get the underlying ID sometimes.
20150922 18:15:23< vultraz> But you should not do so
20150922 18:15:30< vultraz> Users should never, ever touch the underlying id
20150922 18:15:51< celticminstrel> Then should the one-argument wesnoth.get_unit case simply be removed? (Or, replaced with using the user-visible ID?)
20150922 18:16:25< vultraz> Latter, I think
20150922 18:17:28< celticminstrel> I do not like wesnoth.put_unit.
20150922 18:17:45< vultraz> Oh?
20150922 18:17:54< vultraz> Why not
20150922 18:18:09< celticminstrel> 1) The unit is not the first parameter, so it can't easily be shoved into the unit metatable. 2) Calling it without a unit erases the unit at the given location.
20150922 18:19:30< vultraz> (btw, what do those ::exit:: lines do?)
20150922 18:19:49< celticminstrel> They're labels for the goto statements so that I can exit two loops simultaneously.
20150922 18:24:40< celticminstrel> Is wesnoth.is_enemy() commutative?
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20150922 18:35:23< shadowm> celticminstrel: No, they are not guaranteed or supposed to be the same AFAIK.
20150922 18:36:06< shadowm> In general you should pretend the underlying id does not exist even if it does.
20150922 18:36:32< celticminstrel> Were both those things you just said about the underlying ID?
20150922 18:37:02< shadowm> ... Yes.
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20150922 18:43:46< celticminstrel> wesnoth.find_cost_map() documentation is confusing and also seems to be inaccurate.
20150922 19:26:00< celticminstrel> I wish Lua allowef $ in identifiers.
20150922 19:26:10< celticminstrel> (Like JS)
20150922 19:26:42< celticminstrel> Or at lwast something else that WML doesn't.
20150922 19:26:52< celticminstrel> ^least
20150922 19:30:40< Elvish_Hunter> elias: yeah, I forgot that you made separate Python 3 versions of wmldata and wmlparser.
20150922 19:31:23< Elvish_Hunter> So, you can use 2to3, but remember that sometimes the automatic changes that it performs aren't the best ones.
20150922 19:31:37< elias> Elvish_Hunter: of course
20150922 19:32:39< Elvish_Hunter> For example, every time that it finds a map() it blindly wraps it in a list()
20150922 19:33:08< elias> well, I wouldn't say blindly :)
20150922 19:33:23< elias> it does try and replace with a list comprehension doing about the same
20150922 19:33:46< elias> but yes, I'll manually check everything and test that it still works of course
20150922 19:34:05< elias> just wanted to make sure there is no known other users of campaign_client.py
20150922 19:34:17< elias> because those would have to change to Python 3
20150922 19:36:54< elias> I love how much more sane string handling is in Python3
20150922 19:37:34< elias> I think simply converting to Python 3 fixed all the encoding issues wmlunits had been plagued with throughout its Python2 life :)
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20150922 19:38:30< celticminstrel> In Python2 you had to make sure to always use Unicode strings.
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20150922 19:39:46< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: you saw this bug report: https://www.mail-archive.com/wesnoth-bugs@gna.org/msg24625.html?
20150922 19:42:23< Elvish_Hunter> elias: I just ran a grep for campaignserver_client, and this is the result: http://pastebin.com/QS0k1qsq
20150922 19:47:26< celticminstrel> gfgtdf: I hadn't, no.
20150922 19:48:05< elias> hm, wescamp.py, hadn't seen that
20150922 19:51:05< elias> which in turn depends on libgithub.py
20150922 19:52:23< elias> who is maintaining wescamp?
20150922 19:53:07< elias> guess need to find out if they are 1) still using that script 2) interested in converting to Python3
20150922 19:56:14< elias> doesn't seem to be in working condition to begin with...
20150922 19:56:17< Elvish_Hunter> AFAIK, maintaining WesCamp was AI's task
20150922 19:56:54< Elvish_Hunter> Now that he disappeared, you can imagine the situation...
20150922 19:57:30< elias> I can add a comment to the top if someone wants to restore it, they can either start with the python2 version from an older git tag, or convert to python3
20150922 20:03:37< Elvish_Hunter> However, before doing it, I'd try sending him a PM, just in case that he may answer.
20150922 20:07:16< Nobun> In my spare time I'm trying to understand how WesCamp works, and still evaluating if to ask to be the new maintainer (if I will understand completely how it works) or if I will do something else
20150922 20:08:50< Nobun> however if you got ideas around WesCamp or wmlxgettext let me know... still evaluating how to develop a tool that can be useful also for UMC developers
20150922 20:11:30< shadowm> Elvish_Hunter: I tried sending AI0867 an email ages ago and he never replied.
20150922 20:13:03< shadowm> I have no reason to believe it'll be any different with a forum PM since his account is registered to the same address I sent the email to. At this point it's safer to assume he's MIA, which is why I asked Espreon to give me admin access to WesCamp. (You did see my email, right?)
20150922 20:13:42< shadowm> I can designate more WesCamp devs or admins but I don't have the time to deal with it myself.
20150922 20:13:51< shadowm> https://mail.gna.org/public/wesnoth-dev/2015-08/msg00000.html
20150922 20:13:55< shadowm> https://mail.gna.org/public/wesnoth-dev/2015-08/msg00001.html
20150922 20:15:29< shadowm> It's very concerning that he didn't respond to my email, because in past opportunities even when he's been too busy to check IRC or the forums he's always kept an eye on email.
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20150922 20:16:06< Elvish_Hunter> Ah yes, that email. I guess that elias can go ahead then.
20150922 20:16:51< shadowm> Espreon did post instructions on IRC around the date of the second email.
20150922 20:17:11< shadowm> But again, I haven't had time to look into this mess.
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20150922 20:27:28< irker052> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master d5eea2abbf3d / data/lua/wml/message.lua: Fix [show_if] in [message][option] http://git.io/vnahT
20150922 20:33:27< irker052> wesnoth: Elias Pschernig wesnoth:master 900c84657b9d / data/tools/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Upgraded wesnoth_addon_manager to Python 3 http://git.io/vnVem
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20150922 20:36:36< shadowm> celticminstrel: For future reference: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ReportingBugs#Bug_protocol (in particular the last point)
20150922 20:37:15< celticminstrel> 'kay
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20150922 20:49:08< Elvish_Hunter> Now I have to go. Bye!
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20150922 21:12:07< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7456 (master - d5eea2a : Celtic Minstrel): The build is still failing.
20150922 21:12:07< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/81662273
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20150922 21:15:39< celticminstrel> Looks like gfgtdf's waiting message is the culprit?
20150922 21:15:49< gfgtdf> ?
20150922 21:15:50< celticminstrel> Maybe?
20150922 21:15:53< celticminstrel> I dunno.
20150922 21:15:57 * celticminstrel points at failed build.
20150922 21:16:04< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: was that the answer to some question?
20150922 21:16:17< celticminstrel> No, the failed build.
20150922 21:16:21< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: why shodul it be?
20150922 21:16:33< celticminstrel> Well, maybe it's not.
20150922 21:18:35< celticminstrel> But that commit is the first failed build after the last success. I see there was an attempted fix, but not quite enough, I guess?
20150922 21:18:41< celticminstrel> Maybe?
20150922 21:19:59< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: the fix is unrelated to [message]
20150922 21:20:14< celticminstrel> The issue is in formula_string_utils.hpp
20150922 21:20:19< celticminstrel> Nothing to do with [message].
20150922 21:21:37< celticminstrel> Ah, I think I see what's wrong.
20150922 21:21:51< celticminstrel> You added "static inline" on line 62, when it should've gone on line 57.
20150922 21:22:05< celticminstrel> (And actually you probably just need "inline", not "static".)
20150922 21:22:37< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: i dont think thats it
20150922 21:22:58< celticminstrel> I think it's likely, because inline is not legal in that position.
20150922 21:23:04< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: actually i we want to know whats wrong then we shodul just look at the travis output
20150922 21:23:06< celticminstrel> You've put the inline after the return type.
20150922 21:23:13< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: y i know
20150922 21:23:18< celticminstrel> I was looking at the travis output. :P
20150922 21:25:16< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: from what i see in teh travis outputthere is no reason to assume that it has  problem with inline there
20150922 21:25:28< celticminstrel> Why not?
20150922 21:25:48< celticminstrel> The error is definitely in the vicinity of that inline.
20150922 21:25:54< irker052> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 56879d1f7d9b / src/formula_string_utils.hpp: attempt to fix travis build http://git.io/vnVEr
20150922 21:30:50< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: travis ouput says ''typename' occurs outside of a template' so my attempt to fix it would be to remove the 'typename' keyword there.
20150922 21:30:57< celticminstrel> Uh, no.
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20150922 21:31:05< celticminstrel> I don't think that would be right.
20150922 21:31:20< celticminstrel> I think it's getting confused because it's finding "inline" after a type name.
20150922 21:31:32< celticminstrel> The type name being that multi-line boost template thing.
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20150922 21:34:54< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: hmm we'll see if that commit fixes it :)
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20150922 21:38:56< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7457 (master - 900c846 : Elias Pschernig): The build is still failing.
20150922 21:38:56< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/81663347
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20150922 21:39:29< celticminstrel> It'd be nice if it could somehow detect that a commit didn't touch any C++ code and just skip the build in that case. :/
20150922 21:40:09< shadowm> aquileia: ^ Can this be done somehow?
20150922 21:40:33< gfgtdf> you cam put [skip_ci] inn teh commitmessage an travis will skip it
20150922 21:41:01< gfgtdf> but note that travis also tests lua lua/wml code you not using travis when not changing teh c++ cod woudl be wrong
20150922 21:41:10< gfgtdf> s/you/so
20150922 21:42:14< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: also you can abort tests on the travis wesbite
20150922 21:42:16< celticminstrel> Does it test Lua or WML code?
20150922 21:42:21< celticminstrel> I suppose, sure.
20150922 21:42:24< shadowm> All.
20150922 21:42:37< shadowm> WML unit tests use WML tags, which use Lua.
20150922 21:42:53< celticminstrel> Ah, right.
20150922 21:42:55< shadowm> There are also several tests that use [lua] tags directly.
20150922 21:43:27< gfgtdf> sure it doesnt test all wml code so wml code insude campaigns are mostlikeley not loaded 
20150922 21:44:21< gfgtdf> (but thats also not guaramteed)
20150922 21:45:44< celticminstrel> But still, changes to the Python tools have literally no effect on what the Travis build deals with, as far as I know.
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20150922 21:47:10< celticminstrel> Hmm, my fix doesn't seem to work.
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20150922 21:48:15< celticminstrel> But the error message is still wrong. That typename is not appearing outside of a template.
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20150922 21:49:32< celticminstrel> Hmm... thinking about it, the typename keyword might not be required there.
20150922 21:49:52< celticminstrel> Since it's inside the std::pair template argument list.
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20150922 21:59:56< irker052> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 010d3ff35cd8 / src/formula_string_utils.hpp: attempt to fix travis build http://git.io/vnV7P
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20150922 22:06:05< celticminstrel> Looks like this one is working - the others failed in around three minutes, and it's now been running for five. Sorry gfgtdf, I guess your first guess seems to have been right after all. (Though, for all we know, fixing that might've just produced an error about the inline. >_> Because it really was in the wrong place.)
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20150922 22:09:11< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7458 (master - 56879d1 : Celtic Minstrel): The build has errored.
20150922 22:09:12< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/81672743
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20150922 22:44:07< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7459 (master - 010d3ff : Celtic Minstrel): The build was fixed.
20150922 22:44:07< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/81678257
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20150922 23:21:00< celticminstrel> Yay!
20150922 23:42:54< shadowm> Aginor: Any progress on the blending bug?
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