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20151009 00:48:25< matthiaskrgr> in case someone wondered, converting  jpg -> png  and then png -> flif,  gets 186 MB of images down to 150 MB in the main git repo ( - 36 MB)       http://flif.info/  
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20151009 01:19:08< elias> what about png?
20151009 01:27:09< Aginor> matthiaskrgr: how about quality loss?
20151009 01:30:20< shadowm> "FLIF is a novel lossless image format"
20151009 01:32:30< elias> is there really 186MB of jpg?
20151009 01:32:46< elias> i assumed png to be more bytes than jpg with wesnoth
20151009 01:34:38< shadowm> 213 MiB in PNG, 11 MiB in JPEG.
20151009 01:35:23< shadowm> 208 MiB and 8.6 MiB respectively on 1.12.
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20151009 01:36:47< elias> according to that website, it might reduce the .png size by about 25%
20151009 01:36:58< elias> so that could be nice
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20151009 01:52:44< Aginor> shadowm: yes, but jpeg isn't and then you convert you png to flif. There's scope for artefacts and loss in the first conversion if nothing else
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20151009 02:01:14< pydsigner> Aginor: You wouldn't be converting anything to jpeg
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20151009 02:04:20< vultraz> what the hell is going on with travis o_O
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20151009 02:06:32< celticminstrel> I've never heard of flif. I'd be worried that could make it harder for others to access the cgraphcis.
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20151009 02:07:29< celticminstrel> shadowm: I don't know why builds 7595 and 9594 are still going, but I think they don't really need to keep running.
20151009 02:07:41< celticminstrel> Their log also says something about rebooting, which is weird.
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20151009 03:15:24< shadowm> Aginor: matthiaskrgr said convert *from* JPEG, not *to*.
20151009 03:16:50< shadowm> (Naturally, I'm not interested in deploying experimental WIP technology in Wesnoth until every image editor out there supports it.)
20151009 03:16:58< elias> oh, I get it, he converted the jpg to png, then *all* png to jfif
20151009 03:17:12< elias> er, flif
20151009 03:21:02< vultraz> ...*every* image editor?
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20151009 03:21:34< shadowm> The major ones.
20151009 03:21:54< shadowm> As well as other applications that aren't editors (previewers, file managers, etc.)
20151009 03:22:14< vultraz> Ah
20151009 03:22:29< shadowm> You asked that question like if it mattered.
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20151009 03:38:43< vultraz> If you have no objections to #519 I'll merge it as soon as travis is done
20151009 03:41:19< shadowm> Who?
20151009 03:41:28< vultraz> you
20151009 03:42:02< shadowm> `info_.share_vision = lexical_cast_default<SHARE_VISION> (vision_status, SHARE_VISION::ALL);`
20151009 03:42:11< shadowm> What's with the space between the right bracket and the left paranthesis?
20151009 03:42:33< shadowm> That's all I have to say about it because I have no idea what it's about (and odds are that knowing won't help).
20151009 03:43:09< shadowm> Also note that that does not guarantee that the value in question isn't out of the enumeration range.
20151009 03:43:57< shadowm> *is part of the enumeration set.
20151009 03:45:08< vultraz> I was just emulating the similar code for controller. If that's the case then that's also a problem there
20151009 03:46:09< shadowm> Oh, it's the MAKE_ENUM thing that I haven't read up on yet.
20151009 03:46:18< shadowm> Ignore what I said then.
20151009 03:46:44< shadowm> Except for the space bit.
20151009 04:05:12< vultraz> I'll take care of the spaces separately 
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20151009 04:06:53< irker353> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 1cf271e01e2c / src/team.hpp: Add setter methods for share_vision http://git.io/vCte8
20151009 04:06:54< irker353> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 1a6161a8ab12 / / (6 files in 3 dirs): Make Edit Side dialog to use new share_vision tristate http://git.io/vCte4
20151009 04:06:55< irker353> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 610aa9a2da1e / / (7 files in 4 dirs): Merge pull request #519 from Vultraz/master http://git.io/vCteB
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20151009 04:14:41 * shadowm facepalms.
20151009 04:15:11< shadowm> I don't know why ask me then.
20151009 04:15:38< irker353> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 2319bd26ab45 / src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/vCtvx
20151009 04:15:41< irker353> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 0fe3bbd3629d / : Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/vCtvp
20151009 04:15:44< irker353> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master ae305e9cc788 / src/editor/map/context_manager.cpp: Don't switch map contexts when opening the map currently being viewed http://git.io/vCtvh
20151009 04:16:06< vultraz> whoops
20151009 04:16:09< vultraz> merge commits
20151009 04:16:15< vultraz> oh well
20151009 04:22:31< irker353> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 872444a28c1e / data/core/editor/_main.cfg: Remove multiplayer/ inclusion from editor http://git.io/vCtfQ
20151009 04:27:53< irker353> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 0dbaabbb3ebf / data/multiplayer/ (maps/6p_Team_Survival.map scenarios/6p_Team_Survival.cfg): Split 6p Team Survival map into own file http://git.io/vCtJR
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20151009 04:29:13< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7594 (master - 35b227b : Charles Dang): The build was broken.
20151009 04:29:13< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/84156616
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20151009 04:52:07< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7595 (master - ae1ebd0 : Charles Dang): The build was broken.
20151009 04:52:07< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/84159616
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20151009 04:53:53< celticminstrel> Ohhh, those are the two that preceded my fix.
20151009 04:54:15< celticminstrel> For some reason they finished after mine did.
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20151009 05:04:51< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7599 (master - a77fada : gfgtdf): The build was fixed.
20151009 05:04:51< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/84372571
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20151009 05:06:48< vultraz> ok, so last personal project is dealing with the campaign dialog
20151009 05:06:52< vultraz> well, last WIP
20151009 05:10:29< vultraz> I'm considering implementing a variant of the tree view
20151009 05:10:48< vultraz> same mechanics, except you click the header to expand it instead of the flip arrow thing
20151009 05:10:56< vultraz> flip arrows are so last decade
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20151009 06:14:51< shadowm> celticminstrel: The reason is that I restarted them.
20151009 06:14:59< celticminstrel> Ah.
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20151009 06:24:43< celticminstrel> Kinda looks like 7600 stalled too. :S
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20151009 06:33:04< zookeeper> FLIF? first time i hear about that, but at least on their paper it sounds great.
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20151009 06:40:08< shadowm> Oh for goodness sake.
20151009 06:40:50< shadowm> And one of the jobs was just in the middle of testing.
20151009 06:41:09< shadowm> Guess it comes with the territory of being on an experimental platform.
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20151009 07:30:27< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7600 (master - 285f8c8 : Celtic Minstrel): The build was fixed.
20151009 07:30:27< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/84373285
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20151009 08:57:18< matthiaskrgr> 09:11 < elias> [03:32:30] is there really 186MB of jpg?
20151009 08:57:36< matthiaskrgr> flif doesnt support jpg encoding natively, so I had to convert jpgs to png first and then convert all pngs to flif
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20151009 12:49:18< gfgtdf> vultraz: instead of info_.share_vision = lexical_cast_default<SHARE_VISION> (vision_status, SHARE_VISION::ALL); you can also write info_.share_vision.parse(vision_status); which doesnt change info_ share_vision in case that the string is invalid
20151009 12:49:38< gfgtdf> vulraz: also whats the reason for https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/872444a28c1e6e3d98543e180bed235edb09bd3f ?
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20151009 14:41:37< aquileia> vultraz: http://r.wesnoth.org/p590041 - Can we get the OS via WML to adapt these strings?
20151009 14:42:56< aquileia> Wouldn't hurt to display touch-friendly hinst on iOS & Android
20151009 14:43:01< aquileia> *hints
20151009 14:46:09< aquileia> I can only find the APPLE preprocessor define on the wiki
20151009 14:50:01< vultraz> aquileia: afaik we can't. Also, dallin is working on his own fork so we really don't know what he's doing
20151009 14:50:25< vultraz> if we could get together a port maintained by the dev team itself that would be pretty nice
20151009 14:50:47< vultraz> since there's a lot of stuff like force touch that'd be cool to have
20151009 14:51:15< aquileia> Well, but allesandropira's Android branch could cherry-pick that commit, and it wouldn't hurt to have mainline translations
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20151009 14:57:01< gfgtdf> vultraz: you saw my messages earlier ?
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20151009 16:08:06< vultraz> gfgtdf: which ones?
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20151009 16:22:01< gfgtdf> vultraz: 20151009 12:49:18 and 20151009 12:49:38
20151009 16:26:31< vultraz> gfgtdf: that commit fixes duplicate macro definition warnings in the editor. also, why was that loaded in the editor in the first place?
20151009 16:28:56< gfgtdf> vultraz: becase teh editor needs the [multiplayer] tags for random scenario generation
20151009 16:29:58< vultraz> oh
20151009 16:30:10< vultraz> that seems a screwy place to stick the generators
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20151009 16:35:27< vultraz> hm...
20151009 16:35:36< vultraz> yeah idk where else they should be put tho
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20151009 16:39:40< gfgtdf> vultraz: the generators available for editor map generation are the same as the generators that are used for multiplayer-> random maps, the onyl difference is that afaik the editor discards the scenario contnt(events, sides...) and only takes the generted mpa_data
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20151009 16:47:27< irker951> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master dfabf7203043 / data/core/editor/_main.cfg: Revert "Remove multiplayer/ inclusion from editor" http://git.io/vCYWU
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20151009 16:56:05< neverEnough> a noob question:
20151009 16:56:16< neverEnough> const bool whisper = speaker.find("whisper: ") == 0;
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20151009 16:56:40< neverEnough> what is that? i mean, after assignation why there is " == 0" ? i don't understand the meaning
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20151009 16:58:00< neverEnough> whisper thakes a vaule from speaker.find(), ==0 makes no sense to me
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20151009 16:59:29< vultraz> it's a bool statement. Whether whatever speaker.find returns == 0.
20151009 17:04:30< vultraz> at least, I think so
20151009 17:04:40< vultraz> it looks weird
20151009 17:04:53< neverEnough> hm so it is equal to write "const bool whisper =0" ? O_o
20151009 17:05:27< neverEnough> vultraz, thx for tryin
20151009 17:05:59< vultraz> const bool whisper = 0 is the same as const bool whisper = false
20151009 17:07:48< vultraz> 1 is true
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20151009 17:10:53< celticminstrel> ...and now 7603.5 appears to be stalled...?
20151009 17:17:35< celticminstrel> ...and7605.5 too for that matter.
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20151009 22:15:54< shadowm> http://i.imgur.com/w0VuCxJ.png  http://i.imgur.com/cHAvS5r.png
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20151009 22:22:34< celticminstrel> Nice.
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20151009 22:56:44< irker451> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 25a5facce352 / / (9 files in 4 dirs): editor: Add Recent Files menu with recently loaded/saved files http://git.io/vC3GG
20151009 22:56:46< irker451> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master e18605733642 / data/advanced_preferences.cfg src/editor/editor_preferences.cpp: editor: Make Recent Files limit customizable and increase default to 10 http://git.io/vC3GZ
20151009 22:56:49< irker451> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 916ec18069b1 / changelog: Update changelog http://git.io/vC3Gn
20151009 22:56:52< irker451> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master d744a88808bb / / (11 files in 6 dirs): Merge branch 'feature/editor-mru-master' http://git.io/vC3GC
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20151009 23:48:05< irker451> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 048c23cb3a65 / src/hotkey/command_executor.cpp: hotkeys: Use a matching arrow icon style for submenus http://git.io/vC3E7
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