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20151004 04:15:16< Xawei> I am just s user of the android wesnoth app with a simple question " are there ANY intelligent AI downloads for the computer that I can play against ? 
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20151004 15:05:44< reactormonk> In hotseat, any way to display a "switch player" empty scree?
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20151004 16:46:03< celticminstrel> reactormonk: I imagine something like that is probably possible, why?
20151004 16:46:15< celticminstrel> You'd like to preserve information hiding in hotseat?
20151004 16:46:54< Necrosporus> reactormonk, to hide your vision from enemy?
20151004 16:47:44 * celticminstrel would probably just disable shroud and fog if actually playing a hotseat game, since the other player can see your stuff while it's your turn.
20151004 16:48:24< celticminstrel> I think something like that would be best as a game option (select it before starting the game) or maybe a preference.
20151004 16:51:03< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, you could pass your computer around or leave the room during other' player turn
20151004 16:53:17< celticminstrel> Well, that's still the case if there were a switch player screen.
20151004 16:53:53< celticminstrel> I'm guessing the point is so that you can click end turn and then not accidentally see the other player's vision.
20151004 16:54:45< Necrosporus> yes, it's it probably
20151004 16:54:47< zookeeper> reactormonk, no, there's no such option in the game
20151004 16:54:57< zookeeper> it's been requested quite a few times though
20151004 16:55:12< zookeeper> and i'm sure it'd be possible to do that as an add-on modification
20151004 16:55:37< Necrosporus> zookeeper, even for games with default factions and stuff?
20151004 17:04:25< celticminstrel> Yes.
20151004 17:04:37< celticminstrel> Modifications are now a separate thing.
20151004 17:04:51< celticminstrel> So you can use one with default era.
20151004 17:07:10< celticminstrel> Or multiple.
20151004 17:10:07 * zookeeper is trying to write it right now
20151004 17:11:24< celticminstrel> The add-on?
20151004 17:12:27< zookeeper> yes
20151004 17:12:33< celticminstrel> Nice.
20151004 17:12:38< Ravana_> with simple time delay it would be trivial, for triggered changes would need some more work
20151004 17:12:52< celticminstrel> What, Ravana_?
20151004 17:13:07< Ravana_> such modification^
20151004 17:13:18 * celticminstrel assumes some minor GUI2 would be used.
20151004 17:13:36< celticminstrel> ...speaking of GUI2, maybe there should be a Lua API to the gui2::show_message function.
20151004 17:13:40< Ravana_> color_adjust should be enough
20151004 17:13:44< celticminstrel> (I think that's what it's called.)
20151004 17:16:36< zookeeper> [color_adjust] alone isn't enough because it doesn't affect units.
20151004 17:16:46< zookeeper> ...which i think it should
20151004 17:16:57< zookeeper> oh and wouldn't hide minimap either
20151004 17:17:09< zookeeper> or current unit selection
20151004 17:24:39< celticminstrel> ...why doesn't it affect units?
20151004 17:25:24< zookeeper> no one knows
20151004 17:25:38< celticminstrel> Probably something about rendering order.
20151004 17:26:13< celticminstrel> You could probably make a GUI2 dialog that fills the screen with black but otherwise looks like an ordinary message dialog, right?
20151004 17:27:26< zookeeper> very likely
20151004 17:40:10< zookeeper> i don't know anything about how to make GUI2 dialogs though, so i'm trying it with old-fashioned methods first
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20151004 17:45:50< reactormonk> celticminstrel, hotseat game.
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20151004 18:01:43< zookeeper> vultraz, you've done some stuff with GUI2, do you think it's possible to make a dialog which covers the entire screen (including side panel, minimap, etc)?
20151004 18:02:04< zookeeper> i've looked into some add-ons with custom dialogs, and they all seem to be of fixed size
20151004 18:03:16< vultraz> I'm not sure
20151004 18:03:28< vultraz> Perhaps if you specified a size big enough
20151004 18:03:46< vultraz> Or... hm
20151004 18:03:49< vultraz> 		width = "(screen_width)"
20151004 18:03:51< vultraz> 		height = "(screen_height)"
20151004 18:03:53< vultraz> seems to be a thing
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20151004 18:09:37< zookeeper> the code for these things is awful
20151004 18:10:28< zookeeper> the code apparently needed to make these things, i mean
20151004 18:16:41< vultraz> Are you referring to the gui2 code or the gui2 syntax
20151004 18:20:01< zookeeper> whichever is the one you would be right to assume i refer to
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20151004 18:26:41< zookeeper> ok, i can relatively easily display a dummy dialog box of set size
20151004 18:26:55< zookeeper> let's see if those w/h formulas work...
20151004 18:27:44< zookeeper> they do!
20151004 18:28:50< celticminstrel> aeth is another person to ask.
20151004 18:30:06< zookeeper> i think i got it. just need to get rid of the silly scrollbars, and make it dismissable via click or a button, and it ought to be good...
20151004 18:30:57< zookeeper> although it doesn't prevent the next player from getting a glimpse after dismissing the dialog
20151004 18:41:51< zookeeper> i'll try to polish this up and publish ASAP
20151004 18:42:08< zookeeper> could add other hotseat-specific helper thingies too, if there are any potential ones
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20151004 18:47:46< zookeeper> oh, duh! http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=569578#p569578
20151004 18:48:50< zookeeper> of course, it's 1.13 only
20151004 18:53:30< celticminstrel> And yours works on 1.12, so still worth the time, I'd say,
20151004 18:53:55< celticminstrel> Considering how it wasn't a huge amount of time.
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20151004 18:56:27< zookeeper> yeah
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20151004 20:56:25< aeth_> I probably have done some of the fancier things with GUI2 Lua stuff but recently I've just been doing map stuff (most of the past month or so)
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20151004 20:57:22< aeth> I haven't quite worked out a decent API in my wrapper because either I have an if/then nightmare of complexity or a passing-in-function nightmare of complexity that allows like 4 of 40 functions reused.
20151004 21:01:34< celticminstrel> I'd actually like to know what you think would be a good Lua API for GUI2.
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20151004 23:00:30< aeth> celticminstrel: What probably would work is {function, arguments} or {function, arg1, arg2, arg3, ...}
20151004 23:00:45< aeth> celticminstrel: since there's 3 functions that have to pass in and they will probably each have at least one arg
20151004 23:01:09< aeth> technically in Lua you only need one since you can just pass in a table, but that's probably wasteful
20151004 23:01:35< celticminstrel> Well, there might be other ways than passing in a preshow and postshow function. :P
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20151004 23:02:05< celticminstrel> I think for userdata I'd only do a single argument.
20151004 23:02:24< celticminstrel> Well. User data. Not userdata in the sense of something owned by the Wesnoth engine.
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