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20151108 00:46:49< ancestral> I hate git right now
20151108 00:50:09< celticminstrel> Aw
20151108 00:50:15< celticminstrel> What's wrong?
20151108 00:53:28< celticminstrel> A timeout should be quite a bit longer than 5 seconds. 120 seconds might be a good value.
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20151108 01:57:13< neverEnough> shadowm, once again tabbing friends is done, this time it looks even better
20151108 02:00:10< neverEnough> there is something else good to do that is missing a worker?
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20151108 02:13:17< Aginor> 'lo everyone
20151108 02:13:28< vultraz> yo
20151108 02:13:52< vultraz> how goes sdl teau? 
20151108 02:14:52< Aginor> I've been real busy last wek so not much development
20151108 02:15:17< Aginor> there's been a couple of resize related crashes reported that I'm unable to reproduce so far
20151108 02:15:33< Aginor> I am thinking that I need to try to get it set up in windows
20151108 02:37:51< shadowm> neverEnough: Checked other EasyCoding/NotSoEasyCoding tasks?
20151108 02:38:47< neverEnough> shadowm, yes maybe i found one
20151108 02:38:56< neverEnough> "Make it possible to host a game which only registered players are allowed to join"
20151108 02:39:06< neverEnough> is it free?
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20151108 02:41:48< shadowm> I vaguely remember someone working on that long ago, but since we've obviously never heard of them again I'd say yes.
20151108 02:42:09< neverEnough> ok
20151108 02:42:27< neverEnough> then i will check where things are coded
20151108 02:42:35< neverEnough> (tomorrow, now i'm almost in bed)
20151108 02:43:33< neverEnough> prerequisites: will just the client parse a flag on the game, or should server info about the game in a different way than normal games?
20151108 02:44:27< neverEnough> or well, dunno, game's host performs a check to server (like /info) and puts unregistered to spec/kick
20151108 02:44:40< shadowm> The server should be in charge of enforcing the join requirement just like with password-protected games.
20151108 02:45:09< neverEnough> okay
20151108 02:45:14< shadowm> Any other design alternative would be trivially exploitable.
20151108 02:46:50< neverEnough> so when unregistered clicks over the game will cause server to answer NO, then client will parse it to display how to register 
20151108 02:48:09< shadowm> Just informing the user that the game only allows logged-in players should be enough. The instructions for registering belong somewhere else entirely (we do have a line in the MOTD about it).
20151108 02:48:33< neverEnough> ah ok no need then
20151108 02:50:38< neverEnough> thinkin about other issues, but can't find atm
20151108 02:53:26< neverEnough> hm i just remember there are 2 different game sight behaviour: 
20151108 02:53:41< neverEnough> 1) password protected: u click on the game, then u get a popup for insert
20151108 02:54:07< neverEnough> 2) game list shows as black and unclickable the games where u miss some requisites
20151108 02:54:36< neverEnough> which one of these would fit better ?
20151108 02:55:02< shadowm> Probably 1? Since people tend to get confused by 2 a lot already.
20151108 02:55:16< neverEnough> ahaha yes me too :)
20151108 02:55:52< neverEnough> also there are small info icons under game name (obs, gold etc). I guess there should be one also for that
20151108 02:56:30< celticminstrel> You could actually do both 1 and 2 here.
20151108 02:56:41< celticminstrel> Oh wait, minus the "unclickable" part.
20151108 02:56:52< neverEnough> ^_^
20151108 02:56:57< celticminstrel> Basically, shows as black, and gives error message when clicked.
20151108 02:57:06< neverEnough> sounds good
20151108 02:57:15< celticminstrel> I guess really it's not "both" but more "a third option taking bits from both".
20151108 02:57:26< neverEnough> perfect
20151108 02:57:53< neverEnough> one chat to rule them all (i mean the rings --- ehm no the requirements)
20151108 03:00:02< neverEnough> wait wait, since the "blacky" game is confusing.. what if we add the popup when clicked to tell requirements?
20151108 03:00:20< neverEnough> so we have just the 1) and the 3)
20151108 03:00:37< celticminstrel> I think it's good for games that can't be joined to be distinguishable without clicking.
20151108 03:00:37< neverEnough> when travelling for registered feature i'll be there in the code
20151108 03:00:54< neverEnough> ah sure
20151108 03:01:13< neverEnough> distinguishable means black. But also popup to inform
20151108 03:01:17< celticminstrel> It might be confusing for some people (new people mainly), but for someone who's used to it, I think it would be helpful.
20151108 03:01:24< neverEnough> (just an idea)
20151108 03:01:39< celticminstrel> But because of the first point, a popup message is a good idea as well, to explain why it can't be joined.
20151108 03:02:23< neverEnough> so i'm in charge for both these?
20151108 03:03:41< neverEnough> shadowm, u didn't say anything about this main change. Do u like it?
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20151108 03:05:31< shadowm> So grayed out with an informational message when attempting to join? Sure.
20151108 03:05:44< neverEnough> lovely
20151108 03:06:14< neverEnough> ok i'll start it next days, goin for rest
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20151108 09:11:48< shadowm> numberdance: We prefer discussing dev stuff in the public channel.
20151108 09:12:40< shadowm> Also, I'm not 'the' core dev, I'm _a_ core dev. We all know and do different stuff, mostly.
20151108 09:14:32< shadowm> And I have to leave right now, unfortunately, but I do read the channel logs like most other devs.
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20151108 09:21:37< numberdance> ok
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20151108 11:26:18< numberdance> ^shadowm How can I help?
20151108 11:27:09< numberdance> ^shadowm I am more Java-like dev, but they told me you work with templates here
20151108 11:27:46< numberdance> ^shadowm I know how to use generics in Java, so templates shouldn't be a trouble for me
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20151108 14:02:41< shadowm> numberdance: Is there any particular area you'd like to work on? Any particular thing that you feel is missing or in need of improvements?
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20151108 16:52:07< ancestral> Remind me, what git command am I doing to switch to the tagged 1.12.5 and not 1.12.5+dev?
20151108 16:52:40< ancestral> I entered `git checkout -b 1.12.5` and verified I’m switched to it, but when I build, it still shows 1.12.5+dev in the title bar
20151108 16:53:12< shadowm> git checkout 1.12.54
20151108 16:53:40< shadowm> git checkout -b 1.12.5 creates a branch named 1.12.5 from the current HEAD (which is probably not the tag unless you had already checked out the tag).
20151108 16:54:00< shadowm> I meant 1.12.5 above, not 1.12.54 (obviously).
20151108 16:56:12< shadowm> You can also use `git checkout -b whatever_branch_name 1.12.5` to explicitly use 1.12.5 instead of the current HEAD as the starting point, but you probably don't need a local branch to work on.
20151108 16:57:04< shadowm> Also, since you already have a branch named 1.12.5 due to using the bogus checkout command, you will need to delete it with `git branch -D 1.12.5`.
20151108 16:58:37< ancestral> Thanks
20151108 16:59:07< shadowm> Also, instead of wasting an hour building, the reality check should be `fgrep VERSION src/wesconfig.h`.
20151108 16:59:26< ancestral> Awesome
20151108 16:59:35< shadowm> Or even just `git describe` (should be the name of the tag with no decorations).
20151108 17:00:04< shadowm> (The output.)
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20151108 17:27:00< ancestral> mattsc: If at any point today or in the next couple days you have an opportunity to open my binary, it would be much appreciated :)
20151108 17:28:10< ancestral> I haven’t posted it yet, but soonish
20151108 17:31:57< ancestral> “1396 translated messages, 3 fuzzy translations, 2 untranslated messages.”
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