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20151114 00:52:59< neverEnough> i spent already 3 days just to find how lobby populates player list and i'm at same point as before 
20151114 00:53:02< neverEnough> pretty frustrating
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20151114 00:55:34< Aginor> neverEnough: the code can be a bit... opaque on occasion
20151114 01:00:03< neverEnough> kinda :/
20151114 01:01:38< neverEnough> i'm movin around with just grep on sources, then followin by hand classes definition or function implementations.. do pro programmers use faster ways?
20151114 01:02:02< neverEnough> i think there should exist some tool about classes tree
20151114 01:03:29< Aginor> I've imported the entire thing into Eclipse CDT
20151114 01:03:33< Aginor> it works pretty well for me
20151114 01:03:59< Aginor> it allows me to jump around in the code pretty nicely once eclipse has indexed it
20151114 01:04:20< Aginor> and derive type trees and stuff, but most of the class hierarchy is pretty flat
20151114 01:06:55< Appleman1234> neverEnough, I believe I found it after 3 minutes of searching on github 
20151114 01:12:08< neverEnough> Appleman1234, i found lots related thing, but not the exact point i'm lookin for
20151114 01:12:19< neverEnough> Aginor, thx, i might give it a try
20151114 01:12:52< Aginor> I'll be around for a while longer so holler if you need help
20151114 01:13:01< Aginor> you'll want to add includes properly
20151114 01:13:11< Aginor> (and I never bothered to get it completely free from compile errors)
20151114 01:13:22< Appleman1234> neverEnough, then be more specific in what you are looking for 
20151114 01:14:06< neverEnough> there must be a place where server sends some wml list and client adds it to a class
20151114 01:14:29< neverEnough> well, i look just for the client part
20151114 01:16:00< neverEnough> Appleman1234, where did u find what u found?
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20151114 01:24:17< Appleman1234_> neverEnough, https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/b874d4d302b98927b7d7c9633d4f989978abd275/src/server/server.cpp#L2348 is the server part
20151114 01:29:35< Appleman1234_> and https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/9e24258b5f5bd9e6b17006d06737fa32f4fc92aa/src/gui/dialogs/lobby_main.cpp#L1411 is client part depending on what you are looking for 
20151114 01:29:47< Appleman1234_> but that is the client entry point
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20151114 01:51:26< neverEnough> hah couldn't say thx
20151114 01:51:36< neverEnough> anyway, 
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20151114 02:09:21< shadowm> Aginor: I think you'll have to follow the standard procedure and just talk to me through logs and hope our online statuses coincide at some point.
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20151114 02:11:08< celticminstrel> Did anyone ever review this commit?
20151114 02:11:10< celticminstrel> https://github.com/CelticMinstrel/wesnoth/commit/73339b6c80fb6527530ac4e5705e7cc447d6eb3e
20151114 02:12:08< celticminstrel> I thought it had been integrated into master, but it seems I was wrong.
20151114 02:13:17< celticminstrel> If I recall correctly it was in response to a bug reported by... um... I can't remember if it was gfgtdf, vultraz, or shadowm.
20151114 02:14:59< Aginor> shadowm: fair enough. Basically, I wonder whether the sdl2 branch may be suitable for a merge to master. It would be good to have it incorporated
20151114 02:15:16< shadowm> celticminstrel: It wasn't me.
20151114 02:15:44< shadowm> Unless it's somehow related to the test scenario warnings, which isn't mentioned in the commit message.
20151114 02:16:10< shadowm> Aginor: How many known bugs are there remaining to be fixed?
20151114 02:16:47< shadowm> Also, what's the transition plan for MSVC++ and Mingw? I don't want to have gfgtdf and vultraz unable to compile for too long.
20151114 02:21:23< shadowm> Finally, what's the situation regarding the exact SDL 2.0 version reqs? Do we need mercurial snapshots, or is the latest release (2.0.3) enough?
20151114 02:27:07< celticminstrel> shadowm: Since you're around, do you have anything to say on this?
20151114 02:27:09< celticminstrel> [Nov 13@4:06:01pm] celticminstrel: Unrelated: I wonder how much deleting the majority of fields in the unit class (in favour of directly referencing the config) would slow things down.
20151114 02:27:10< celticminstrel> [Nov 13@4:07:18pm] celticminstrel: Or would it slow things down?
20151114 02:27:56< shadowm> Yes.
20151114 02:29:09< celticminstrel> But no idea how much, I guess.
20151114 02:29:24< celticminstrel> Or is that a "yes" to "do you have anything to say".
20151114 02:29:36< shadowm> We should be moving away from WML for internal storage, not towards it. A lot of inefficiencies in the game's overall design stem from excessively liberal usage of WML.
20151114 02:30:30< shadowm> Ideally at some point we should be able to easily replace WML at the public API border with something else without having to reengineer the entire game core.
20151114 02:30:59< celticminstrel> It would be simpler for me to delete the fields, but what I have in mind is certainly possible without...
20151114 02:35:04< Aginor> shadowm: there may be a bug in windows that gfgtdf has mentioned, but he's not given me enough to go by to reproduce/fix. I have no idea about MSVC++ vs Mingw, but wedge009 may be able to fill you in there
20151114 02:35:21< Aginor> shadowm: As for versions, I've done all testing on 2.0.3
20151114 02:35:49< shadowm> Also, I require confirmation as to whether SDL 2 still does its own stdout+stderr redirection or not.
20151114 02:37:32< shadowm> Tip of sdl2 branch is 94b93a8fa3c982ed288b9c654eb8a53c130c3b73, dated November 1. Is this correct?
20151114 02:38:26< Aginor> shadowm: correct
20151114 02:38:58< shadowm> Can I build this with scons? I keep forgetting how to direct cmake to use SDL 2.
20151114 02:39:05< Aginor> I'll look into compiling sdl2 branch under windows and see if you can get a response regarding the redirction
20151114 02:39:18< Aginor> both cmake and scons work
20151114 02:39:27< Aginor> and in the sdl2 branch it'll defaul to using sdl2
20151114 02:39:44< Aginor> so just do a clean build and you'll be fine
20151114 02:42:40< shadowm> Gah why everything goes wrong.
20151114 02:43:09< shadowm> /usr/bin/ld: build/sconf_temp/conftest_24.o: undefined reference to symbol 'SDL_RWFromFile'
20151114 02:43:10< Aginor> murphy's law?
20151114 02:43:21< Aginor> ummm
20151114 02:43:24< shadowm> Checking for PNG support in SDL... no
20151114 02:43:24< shadowm> Checking for JPG support in SDL... no
20151114 02:43:28< Aginor> that's unusually wrong
20151114 02:43:43< Aginor> is your sdl2 libraries healthy?
20151114 02:43:46< Aginor> s/is/are/
20151114 02:43:53< shadowm> Sounds like the scons test programs' source being out of date.
20151114 02:44:10< shadowm> Everything else work correctly.
20151114 02:45:26< shadowm> You can see the sources in /scons/sdl.py lines 123 (PNG) and 161 (JPEG).
20151114 02:45:39< Aginor> I'll look into that
20151114 02:45:39< shadowm> Do they look sane for SDL 2?
20151114 02:47:45< Aginor> they look sane enough, but I'm not sure if they're linking against the right version
20151114 02:48:02< Aginor> I have to learn more about scons to figure that out
20151114 02:48:19< shadowm> /usr/bin/ccache gcc -o build/sconf_temp/conftest_24 build/sconf_temp/conftest_24.o -L/home/shadowm/local/SDL2/lib -L/usr/lib -lm -lSDL2_net -lboost_iostreams -lboost_random -lboost_system -lboost_filesystem -lboost_locale -lSDL2_ttf -lSDL2_mixer -lSDL2_image -lvorbisfile
20151114 02:48:23< shadowm> That's the command line.
20151114 02:48:49< Aginor> that should be fine
20151114 02:49:00< Aginor> I still need to test and run the programs though :D
20151114 02:50:38< shadowm> Actually, I always forget, which one takes precedence -- if I have -Labc/ -Ldef/ -lfoobar and both abc/libfoobar.so and def/libfoobar.so exist, which one takes precedence?
20151114 02:50:56< Aginor> presumably the first, but I'm not sure
20151114 02:51:20< shadowm> Oh I think I see what's wrong there.
20151114 02:51:22< celticminstrel> That's a very good question.
20151114 02:51:28< shadowm> No -lSDL2 or whatever the name of the SDL library is.
20151114 02:51:46< Aginor> yeah
20151114 02:52:04< Aginor> I did notice that but I wasn't sure if it was required for SDL2_img
20151114 02:52:38< shadowm> These also happen to be the only tests that actually reference SDL symbols that need to be resolved at link time.
20151114 02:53:05< shadowm> (Which says a lot about the scons recipe's fragility, really.)
20151114 02:53:12< Aginor> indeed
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20151114 03:01:50< celticminstrel> I did something really weird somehow and messed up my repo.
20151114 03:04:13< shadowm> Do tell.
20151114 03:04:40< celticminstrel> I don't even know what I did wrong. Somehow I have 21058 untracked files.
20151114 03:04:59< celticminstrel> Currently trying to fix with git reset --hard main/master
20151114 03:05:07< celticminstrel> (main is the official repo)
20151114 03:05:36< celticminstrel> Previously I did the same with FETCH_HEAD.
20151114 03:06:19< celticminstrel> I guess I somehow rewound it to 2009.
20151114 03:06:50< celticminstrel> Since that was the year of the top commit in git log
20151114 03:07:25< celticminstrel> I guess "messed up my working copy" is more accurate.
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20151114 03:34:09< wedge009> shadowm: Aginor: What's the bug?
20151114 03:47:19< Aginor> wedge009: there isn't one, it's a path forward with regards to miniGW or VSC++ compilers
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20151114 04:33:54< wedge009> Aginor: Don't know too much about minGW, so can't comment on that.
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20151114 05:13:07< Aginor> wedge009: which is a similar situation to me then :)
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20151114 05:14:54< shadowm> Assume it's identical to MSVC++ for this particular project, since it's a C library and thus has no special ABI ties.
20151114 05:15:28< shadowm> SDL is, I mean.
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20151114 05:29:30< Aginor> there's versions for both presumably
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20151114 12:11:20< aquileia> shadowm: The VC project and dependency package are ready for SDL2. IIRC the stdout redirection still beaves the same as before (cwesnoth.cmd is required to get it in the console) but I'll test that as soon as my build finishes
20151114 12:11:29< aquileia> *behaves
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20151114 12:43:02< loonycyborg> shadowm: that sdl test program doesn't reference any sdl symbols only because it doesn't have any sdl using code
20151114 12:43:38< loonycyborg> though not sure what exact sdl code should be added there to exercise it properly
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20151114 13:43:18< zookeeper> vultraz, minor problem: the new debug unit create dialog doesn't automatically give focus to the filter textbox. previously i think you could just pop up the dialog and start typing, now you have to click on the textbox first.
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20151114 17:37:33< ShikadiLord> loonycyborg: You didn't tell me anything I didn't know already.
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20151114 17:38:34< loonycyborg> guess will plug some sdl code there later
20151114 17:38:45< celticminstrel> That was weird, my client thought I was connected when in fact I wasn't.
20151114 17:39:33< ShikadiLord> For example, for testing the SDL version you can use the runtime version query function in addition to the header symbols.
20151114 17:40:03< celticminstrel> The only libs in mattsc's XCode package that cause dyld errors are cairo and pangocairo, but if I just replace those then I get a ton of GLib runtime errors, so I guess I need to replace GLib too (going to do glib, gmodule, gobject, and gthread, to be safe).
20151114 17:40:13< ShikadiLord> That should be the best way to avoid last-minute surprises later when linking target executables.
20151114 17:41:49< celticminstrel> I don't remember where mattsc's script is.
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20151114 17:54:48< celticminstrel> I guess pango itself also needs to be replaced.
20151114 17:55:18< celticminstrel> GLib is a dependency of pango, I guess?
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20151114 18:02:53< shadowm> I imagine OS X has its own ldd equivalent to check dependencies of an executable image.
20151114 18:03:17< celticminstrel> Probably.
20151114 18:03:30< celticminstrel> I could check with otool -L
20151114 18:03:32< shadowm> shadowm@nanacore:~/src/wesnoth-sdl2% ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpango-1.0.so
20151114 18:03:40< shadowm>         libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f932a79a000)
20151114 18:05:54< celticminstrel> Surprisingly, I didn't need to replace pangoft.
20151114 18:06:06< celticminstrel> It seems like there are two separate problems with the lib package when used on OSX 10.7.
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20151114 18:06:28< celticminstrel> One is that Cairo references CoreText, which has moved on newer versions of the OS.
20151114 18:06:34< celticminstrel> The other is something to do with GLib.
20151114 18:06:57< celticminstrel> Though, with libpangocairo the two problems might meet. Or, maybe that's the cause of the GLib problem.
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20151114 21:36:43< mattsc> celticminstrel: I reposted my script: http://pastebin.com/X5pYH7YQ
20151114 21:37:46< mattsc> That shows you my best guess as to what I believe needs to be replaced.
20151114 21:38:22< mattsc> I have not fixed any of the issues previously mentioned yet, but they are all about “style" rather than functionality, so I am waiting for general feedback first before doing that.
20151114 21:38:53< celticminstrel> I don't remember any previously mentioned issues.
20151114 21:38:56< mattsc> celticminstrel: did you have any questions?  I’ll be here on and off throughout the rest of the day.
20151114 21:39:44< mattsc> Don’t use all caps for variables, make sure rm -rf somethingsomething cannot reduce to rm -rf /, and something else the script checker found.
20151114 21:48:21< celticminstrel> I think I'd make WESNOTH_PATH default to "."
20151114 21:48:36< celticminstrel> Though it doesn't really matter.
20151114 21:48:50< celticminstrel> Since it'll need to be edited no matter what.
20151114 21:49:18< mattsc> I could just get rid of the rm altogether and make it a cp with a date stamp or something
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20151114 22:17:38< shadowm> aquileia: Re http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=590667#p590667 , the proper procedure is to contact the translation maintainer and let them send the update to Ivanovic or a delegate instead.
20151114 22:17:40< celticminstrel> mattsc: Assuming people only edit the bit you tell them to, it's impossible for that rm -rf to reduce to 
20151114 22:17:41< celticminstrel> "rm -rf /".
20151114 22:17:49< celticminstrel> ...random line break...
20151114 22:18:21< shadowm> aquileia: Just mentioning in case you didn't know, since you said "commit" and you aren't listed as the translation maintainer.
20151114 22:19:19< celticminstrel> Is cairo a dependency of pango?
20151114 22:19:39< celticminstrel> I suppose it probably is...
20151114 22:19:49< celticminstrel> Since there's libpangocairo.
20151114 22:20:14< shadowm> Pango can use Cairo and we need it to use Cairo.
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20151114 22:20:46< shadowm> (We also use Cairo directly in a few places for the same reason.)
20151114 22:21:56< celticminstrel> I'm just noticing that mattsc's script only installs Pango, trusting it to automatically install all the other needed dependencies too. If cairo isn't among those dependencies though, he might need to add that to the script. I'll check in a minute.
20151114 22:22:21< celticminstrel> I mean, if cairo is an optional dependency, it might not be installed by default. I dunno.
20151114 22:22:29< celticminstrel> ...oh, I can just check in a different shell, duh.
20151114 22:25:05< celticminstrel> Ah, cairo is listed as a dependency, so it's fine then.
20151114 22:34:16< celticminstrel> The script gives me a host of No such file or directory... hm...
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20151114 22:40:05< celticminstrel> Oh, I suspect lines 47/50 need to use XCODE_PATH.
20151114 22:40:08< celticminstrel> mattsc: ^
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20151114 22:43:19< celticminstrel> I removed "libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib libfontconfig.1.dylib" for now since I suspect they're not needed.
20151114 22:43:24< celticminstrel> From the script, I mean.
20151114 22:43:40< celticminstrel> Though I suppose it wouldn't hurt to leave them in anyway.
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20151114 22:46:50< celticminstrel> mattsc: You've got cp -prf, but the man-page has no -r option listed.
20151114 22:52:36< celticminstrel> Ohh, there was a cd that I didn't notice which messed things up.
20151114 22:52:57< celticminstrel>  /opt/local/lib/pango apparently doesn't exist.
20151114 22:53:24< celticminstrel> But other than that, the script has now run successfully. Now I just need to verify that Wesnoth will run with this.
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20151114 23:07:08< celticminstrel> The script broke something by removing the projectfiles/Xcode/Resources/pango directory.
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20151114 23:10:33< celticminstrel> (The cd messing things up and the XCODE_PATH thing are presumably both caused by my setting WESNOTH_PATH to a relative path.)
20151114 23:11:35< celticminstrel> Anyway, after running the script and then fixing the missing pango folder (with git reset), Wesnoth launches without any issues.
20151114 23:11:44< celticminstrel> mattsc: ^
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