--- Log opened Sun Nov 22 00:00:48 2015
20151122 00:00:52< iceiceice> neverEnough: yeah, even git between virtual machines is kind of slow
20151122 00:01:16< iceiceice> i can recommend things like "git-new-workdir", that is fast and awesome
20151122 00:01:21< iceiceice> but it doesn't help the networking issue
20151122 00:01:36< iceiceice> i guess what iw ould do is just try to keep separate repos on separate machins
20151122 00:01:42< iceiceice> and if you need to sync them, push and pull from your fork
20151122 00:01:44< iceiceice> rather than from master
20151122 00:02:07< iceiceice> i mean, you can push your working branch to your fork and pull it from the other machine
20151122 00:05:41< neverEnough> iceiceice, yes but uncommitted changes wont work
20151122 00:06:07< neverEnough> hell i can't believe git guys don't have a workstation AND a laptop ^^
20151122 00:06:09< iceiceice> for that, i would make a second branch off th working branch and commit them there
20151122 00:06:23< iceiceice> then rebase it into a "final" version of the commit later if desired
20151122 00:06:33< iceiceice> or just make commits on the working branch that you intend to rebase
20151122 00:07:15< neverEnough> hm tricky but solving
20151122 00:07:41< iceiceice> yeah i would not try to move uncommitted changes from machine to machine
20151122 00:07:45< iceiceice> git doesn't really do that i geuss
20151122 00:08:03< iceiceice> even if you end up doing like "git format-patch" and emailing a patch around, you still have to commit it at some point
20151122 00:08:24< iceiceice> also committing is good bcause then its in the repo so its harder for it to get wiped out
20151122 00:08:38< iceiceice> even if its just on some side branch
20151122 00:08:53< iceiceice> i mean once you have enough stuff that you are thinking about saving it / transferring it somewhere you probablhy want to commit it in some form
20151122 00:11:34< neverEnough> iceiceice, commits may be joined together iirc 
20151122 00:13:05< neverEnough> i should just join 10-15 dumb temp changes and get the final results in a single real commit (and push request). Correct?
20151122 00:13:24< iceiceice> yeah sure
20151122 00:13:39< neverEnough> sounds good
20151122 00:13:42< iceiceice> sometimes what i do is like, if i have a dumb temp commit,
20151122 00:13:53< iceiceice> i put something like (needs rebase) in its commit title line
20151122 00:14:02< iceiceice> so that when i later go through to rebase the branch,
20151122 00:14:06< iceiceice> i mark all those guys as fixup
20151122 00:14:19< iceiceice> or squash or whatever
20151122 00:14:24< neverEnough> thx
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20151122 01:36:59< shadowm> mattsc: I'd prefer if all AIs that aren't used or intended to be used were removed; this extends to their backends as well.
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20151122 02:50:43< mattsc> shadowm: okay
20151122 02:51:17< mattsc> The thing with the “Strong AI” is that it isn’t even a different AI.  It’s just the default AI with non-default values for some of the recruiting aspects.
20151122 02:51:19< mattsc> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/data/ai/ais/ai_default_rca_strong.cfg
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20151122 10:33:05< shadowm> Managed to waste an inordinate amount of time (5 hours) trying to debug an issue resulting from very odd behavior when someone tries to write to stderr using our logging facilities during static initialization time.
20151122 10:34:01< shadowm> That makes cerr (yes, cerr, not the loggers) become comatose for some reason.
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20151122 10:36:54< shadowm> After outputting a timestamp followed by a space, that is.
20151122 10:38:04< vultraz> But did you find a solution
20151122 10:38:16< shadowm> No.
20151122 10:39:01< shadowm> I decided to just not do that instead, since the problem makes absolutely no sense.
20151122 10:40:39< shadowm> Maybe if I feel charitable with my time later I'll check if it's specific to this particular C++ library vendor and version.
20151122 10:41:11< shadowm> Why it makes no sense: "[cin/cout/cerr] are guaranteed to be initialized during or before the first time an object of type std::ios_base::Init is constructed and are available for use in the constructors and destructors of static objects [...]"
20151122 10:43:32< shadowm> I'm not really sure what it means by 'during or before', but it doesn't really explain why it somehow manages to write a few bytes of data before giving up on life forever.
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20151122 10:44:19< shadowm> So thanks to this absurd bug now my code is about 10% more unwieldy than it was before.
20151122 10:45:22< shadowm> Also, along the way I discovered that we don't have a defined point at which the user data dir is set up.
20151122 10:45:32< shadowm> Instead, it happens the first time someone decides to touch it for whatever reason.
20151122 10:46:49< shadowm> Which means that it *may* happen *before* processing command line options if someone accidentally calls the wrong function at the wrong time, resulting in two user data dirs.
20151122 10:47:38< shadowm> So I think I'll need to bulldoze the whole early initialization code later.
20151122 10:47:42< loonycyborg> 10% more unwieldy because you made some kind of arrangement to deal with it? What did you do about it exactly?
20151122 10:48:16< shadowm> Delegate responsibility for a singleton object's initialization to main() of all things.
20151122 10:49:18< shadowm> When it was really supposed to be set up more or less invisibly to everyone else save for the issue with not having a concrete user data dir setup checkpoint.
20151122 10:54:29< shadowm> `bool res; res = foo(); if(!res) { /* ... */ }` x 100
20151122 10:54:42< shadowm> Someone must've really disliked double closing parentheses here.
20151122 10:58:53< loonycyborg> you using gcc or clang?
20151122 10:59:34< loonycyborg> I googled it and it seems libc++ has a bug with stdstreams initialization
20151122 10:59:39< shadowm> GCC from Mingw-w64.
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20151122 19:17:58< neverEnough> wesnoth-commits ML is dead?
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20151122 21:07:46< shadowm> neverEnough: Yes, it hasn't been used in a couple of years.
20151122 21:08:58< neverEnough> ah k
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20151122 21:24:44< irker116> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:asio_wesnothd 62f01e345b7f / src/ (SConscript filesystem_common.cpp filesystem_sdl.cpp): Split off SDL RWops code from filesystem_common.cpp http://git.io/vBJDH
20151122 21:24:44< irker116> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:asio_wesnothd 83fdb9219716 / src/server/server.cpp: Reenable filesystem calls in server.cpp http://git.io/vBJDQ
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20151122 22:11:32< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7822 (asio_wesnothd - 83fdb92 : loonycyborg): The build is still failing.
20151122 22:11:33< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/92607710
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20151122 22:36:01< shadowm> Wine process ids are awfully predictable. :p
20151122 22:36:46< loonycyborg> Is that a security vulnerability? :P
20151122 22:37:38< shadowm> No, it's just a tiny bit inconvenient for generating predictable unique filenames.
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20151122 22:38:26< shadowm> Looks like every first process spawned by wineserver 1.7.55 gets PID 8.
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20151122 23:49:26< irker116> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master a7bb6b1fa57f / src/variable_info.cpp: fix crash in set_variables http://git.io/vBUtd
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