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20151205 00:07:48< Aginor> aquileia: thanks
20151205 00:14:39< Aginor> and it looks like I'm getting a full rebuild :/
20151205 00:27:31< wedge009> Aginor: aquileia: I... haven't had issues compiling master, 1.12 or sdl2 branches yet. But I downloaded the dependencies myself, don't use external. Compiled pango, and libpng myself, use Fedora's MinGW binaries for cairo.
20151205 00:27:43< wedge009> I think. Just going off memory here.
20151205 00:33:49< celticminstrel> gfgtdf: How so?
20151205 00:34:10< celticminstrel> I think it might work that way already though.
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20151205 00:47:05< Aginor> aquileia: I think it might be a good idea to update the VS2015 dependencies to actually include a version of SDL that the game can compile with ;)
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20151205 00:48:11< aquileia> Aginor: Good idea - do you want to upload yours or should I take it from the SDL buildbot?
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20151205 00:54:32< aquileia> hm... until sdl2 is merged we'd still need SDL1.2 in the external repo, and neither you nor the buildbot have that. I may have to download VC14 and compile myself
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20151205 01:09:45< irker399> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 2eaa391a7f75 / src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Replace synonymous build level with functional equivalent http://git.io/vRR8Z
20151205 01:10:05< vultraz> Eh, should have specified unit type build level
20151205 01:10:17< vultraz> oh well
20151205 01:15:45< aquileia> loonycyborg: I'd like to add a list of filename pairs (rename a->b) to scons. They'll be used both for the installer and the patcher. Would you prefer an env[] variable or an additional parametre if the function calls?
20151205 01:17:07< aquileia> I lean towards the env[] solution, but I don't know whether that'd be overhead for regular builds
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20151205 01:34:09< loonycyborg> aquileia: I don't think it'll be much more overhead than parameter.
20151205 01:34:20< aquileia> ok
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20151205 01:52:52< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#7871 (master - 2eaa391 : Charles Dang): The build passed.
20151205 01:52:52< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/95003102
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20151205 02:01:17< Aginor> I have it running
20151205 02:01:23< Aginor> it is slooooooooooooooow
20151205 02:01:45< Aginor> and every time I try to run it, it tells me that the project is out of date
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20151205 02:08:54< Aginor> crash reproduced
20151205 02:08:56< Aginor> (yay)
20151205 02:17:55< aquileia> Aginor: without the debug performance fix you'd just about now have loaded a campaign, I guess (you even had to wait for mouse movement to register)
20151205 02:18:30< aquileia> great that you got it running... and crashing ;)
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20151205 02:24:24< Aginor> aquileia: crashing at the main screen
20151205 02:24:43< Aginor> although it's great how it illustrates how broken wesnoth's resize code is as well
20151205 02:25:08< Aginor> I know what needs to be fixed, but actually doing it will be a bit harder
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20151205 03:03:44< Aginor> but now I can't crash it again
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20151205 03:09:12 * Aginor facepalms
20151205 03:09:24< Aginor> there's a singleton in display.?pp
20151205 03:10:00< Aginor> this class is subclassed as well, each constructor updating the pointer to the new instance
20151205 03:10:06< Aginor> and the destructor setting the pointer to null
20151205 03:10:39< Aginor> seems that new instances are made before old are destroyed, updating the pointer in the construcor before the destructor sets it to null
20151205 03:38:06< fabi> Aginor: ja, display classes are ugly
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20151205 04:59:01< celticminstrel> So, instead of setting it to null in the destructor, you can set it to whatever it was before being set to the new instance in the constructor?
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20151205 05:24:22< Aginor> celticminstrel: that still turns into some sort of race-like behaviour
20151205 05:24:34< Aginor> it needs to be managed outside the scope of the class itself
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20151205 05:27:06< celticminstrel> How does it turn into race-like behaviour? Are these classes instantiated at global scope?
20151205 05:27:48< celticminstrel> ...though for ordering concerns, that shouldn't matter.
20151205 05:27:54< celticminstrel> Are they instantiated in multiple threads?
20151205 05:29:00< Aginor> no
20151205 05:29:31< Aginor> instantiate class 1, instatiate class 2, destory class 1, access singleton -> null instead of class2
20151205 05:29:58< Aginor> I need to look into it a bit more, but this is a corner case
20151205 05:30:03< Aginor> it works most of the time
20151205 05:31:31< celticminstrel> I think that's only possible if you're using dynamic allocation...
20151205 05:32:01< Aginor> let me run it through a debugger
20151205 05:32:27< celticminstrel> Assuming a single thread, that is.
20151205 05:32:52< celticminstrel> Because static and automatic variables are always destroyed in reverse order of construction.
20151205 05:33:19< celticminstrel> ...though, come to think of it, I'm not quite sure how local statics fit into that...
20151205 05:33:31< Aginor> static display* get_singleton() { return singleton_ ;}
20151205 05:33:40< Aginor> that's shared across all instances.
20151205 05:33:53< Aginor> whoops, wrong thing though
20151205 05:34:06< Aginor> singleton_
20151205 05:34:10< Aginor> protected: static display * singleton_;
20151205 05:34:19< Aginor> there we go
20151205 05:34:29< Aginor> that's shared across all instances and subclasses
20151205 05:34:42< celticminstrel> Right, I got that much already.
20151205 05:34:43< Aginor> so you do not need to multithread to stuff up that value
20151205 05:35:01< celticminstrel> That's true.
20151205 05:35:11< celticminstrel> You could use new and delete as well.
20151205 05:35:20< celticminstrel> Manual memory management.
20151205 05:35:55< celticminstrel> ...oh right, I'm still speaking under the assumption that the change I proposed was in fact implemented.
20151205 05:36:32< celticminstrel> You could throw an exception from the constructor if singleton_ is not null.
20151205 05:36:34< Aginor> let's pretend I don't know/remember what change that was :)
20151205 05:36:57< celticminstrel> It was setting it not to null in the destructor but rather back to the old value.
20151205 05:37:02< Aginor> ok, singleton is set when creating initial load screen
20151205 05:39:01< Aginor> set again when switching to campaign screen
20151205 05:39:18< Aginor> os campaign intro story thing
20151205 05:39:34< celticminstrel> You've set a watchpoint?
20151205 05:39:39< Aginor> breakpoint
20151205 05:39:44< celticminstrel> Oh.
20151205 05:39:52< celticminstrel> Right, that could work here too.
20151205 05:40:04< celticminstrel> Given that you know it's only set in the constructor and destructor.
20151205 05:40:10< Aginor> yes
20151205 05:40:32< Aginor> quitting the campaign destroys campaign-display
20151205 05:40:44< celticminstrel> In all those cases, is singleton_ null before being set?
20151205 05:40:44< Aginor> singleton is now null
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20151205 05:40:55< celticminstrel> Or only in the first case?
20151205 05:40:56< Aginor> first time, yes, second time no
20151205 05:41:16< Aginor> but I don't like baking in the assumption that we should return it to the old value
20151205 05:42:16< Aginor> because the scope of them are managed outside the classes themselves, so it's possible one is destroyed for <reason> without the knowledge of the display itself, causing the restoration of that pointer to have a stale value
20151205 05:42:28< celticminstrel> Why is the first display not destroyed before the second one is constructed?
20151205 05:42:37< Aginor> causing an access violation if we're lucky, or just corrupting game state if we're unlucky
20151205 05:42:41< Aginor> I have no idea :)
20151205 05:43:29< celticminstrel> If you know they're managed entirely by scope (no dynamic memory allocation), then I think resetting to old value is safe, but...
20151205 05:43:54< Aginor> mmm
20151205 05:44:03< celticminstrel> Where is that first display (the loading screen) constructed?
20151205 05:44:09< Aginor> it makes me uncomfortable
20151205 05:45:21< Aginor> bah
20151205 05:45:28< Aginor> intellisense in my VM is rubbish
20151205 05:46:39< Aginor> game launcher, mp connect, play controller
20151205 05:46:51< Aginor> a few other places that we don't care too much about
20151205 05:47:07< celticminstrel> Are they local variables?
20151205 05:47:19< Aginor> nope
20151205 05:47:34< celticminstrel> Then, dynamically allocated?
20151205 05:48:03< Aginor> at least some are
20151205 05:48:16 * Aginor sighs
20151205 05:48:52< celticminstrel> I seem to remember this, isn't there a display pointer in the resources namespace too?
20151205 05:49:06< Aginor> I don't know
20151205 05:49:12< Aginor> I'll have a grep
20151205 05:49:47< celticminstrel> And how often is display::get_singleton() called?
20151205 05:49:57< Aginor> that's used at lots of places
20151205 05:50:43< celticminstrel> I guess the issue here is really that the singleton is not a singleton...
20151205 05:50:49< Aginor> I feel like the correct solution is to introduce a display-manager, but that'll be a whole bunch of work
20151205 05:50:53< Aginor> yeah :)
20151205 05:50:57< Aginor> that's the real problem
20151205 05:52:12< celticminstrel> You could force it to be a singleton by throwing an exception in the constructor if singleton_ is not null, but then you'd still have to change things to ensure that the previous display is destroyed before a new one is instantiated.
20151205 05:52:24< celticminstrel> So maybe the display manager thing is the best...
20151205 05:53:33< Aginor> the exceptions just adds a layer of difficulty onto the wrongness, wherever those exceptions would be caught would be in the wrong place to take corrective action
20151205 05:54:11< Aginor> I think I will stick my head in the sand like an Ostrich for now and raise a bug
20151205 05:54:22< Aginor> see if I can provoke some discussion
20151205 05:57:01< celticminstrel> Heh, okay then.
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20151205 06:00:59< Aginor> I'll fix the crash by introducing another (real) singleton and raise a bug for the display
20151205 06:26:58< Aginor> shadowm: I'd like to draw your attention to https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?24139 - it has architectural implications
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20151205 07:21:32< vultraz> Aginor: you don't happen to have been building sdl libs on windows, have you?
20151205 07:30:01< Aginor> vultraz: I have been
20151205 07:31:58< vultraz> Ok, so I'm trying to build a project (not wesnoth) that has sdl as a dependency (and as a repo submodule)  and using cmake to generate vs solutions, and I installed vs 2015 and the ms c++ libs and the win10 sdk, but when I run cmake sdl complains about ERROR: DIRECTX requires the $DXSDK_DIR environment variable to be set
20151205 07:32:00< vultraz> any ideas?
20151205 07:32:29< Aginor> ah, no, I cheated for that
20151205 07:32:35< Aginor> and uncommented the code
20151205 07:32:45< Aginor> but you need your direct x sdk installed
20151205 07:32:55< Aginor> which I couldn't be bothered to figure out where from
20151205 07:35:02< vultraz> but according to msdn the dx sdk is deprecated and the relevant stuff is in the win sdk
20151205 07:35:10< Aginor> vultraz: yes...
20151205 07:35:14< vultraz> so ... is this an sdl issue?
20151205 07:35:22< Aginor> sdl hasn't quite caught up with the times it seems
20151205 07:35:23< vultraz> sdl project config issue*
20151205 07:35:25< vultraz> ah
20151205 07:35:27< Aginor> yet people are able to make it work
20151205 07:35:49< Aginor> point it at the toplevel dir that has...
20151205 07:37:01< Aginor> vultraz: this is out of SDL_xaudio2.c
20151205 07:37:02< Aginor>    The XAudio2 implementation available in the Windows 8 SDK targets Windows 8 and newer.
20151205 07:37:05< Aginor>    If you want to build SDL with XAudio2 support you should install the DirectX SDK.
20151205 07:37:08< Aginor>  */
20151205 07:37:11< Aginor>  //#include <dxsdkver.h>
20151205 07:37:24< Aginor> where it isn't normally commented out, but I couldn't be bothered to figure out the proper solution
20151205 07:41:03< vultraz> ok I'm confused, should I comment something out, uncomment something, or try to install the sdk?
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20151205 07:43:09< Aginor> try to point SDL at the location of that header or something equally sensible
20151205 07:43:22< Aginor> you want it to be in your include and link dirs
20151205 07:43:43< Aginor> I don't know how that works with a newer sdk
20151205 07:45:11< Aginor> vultraz: if you're compiling sdl from cratch, try the mercurial version instead
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20151205 08:02:52< iceiceice> vultraz: you can probably disable the SDL2 renderer entirely
20151205 08:03:01< iceiceice> theres an option like SDL2renderer that you can set to off
20151205 08:03:10< iceiceice> or probably you could disable just hte DX part
20151205 08:03:23< iceiceice> if your project is not using the renderer features then its probably simpler to get rid of it
20151205 08:04:11< vultraz> I have no idea :|
20151205 08:04:32< vultraz> I'm trying to build this https://google.github.io/flatui/index.html
20151205 08:05:25< iceiceice> they probably dont use the renderer i guess
20151205 08:05:28< iceiceice> i mean i hope they dont
20151205 08:05:35< iceiceice> they probably just use opengl directly
20151205 08:05:46< iceiceice> idk i would try it without that
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20151205 08:16:24< irker142> wesnoth: Andreas Löf wesnoth:sdl2 36456df46f6e / src/ (events.cpp gui/widgets/grid.cpp loadscreen.cpp video.cpp video.hpp): Fixes bug #24138 and disables SDL_PumpEvent() in grid.cpp http://git.io/vR0cA
20151205 08:16:24< irker142> wesnoth: Andreas Löf wesnoth:sdl2 5c187a518566 / / (7 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'sdl2' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth into sdl2 http://git.io/vR0cx
20151205 08:26:39< vultraz> iceiceice: ok so you think I  should just commenting out the DX block in sdl's cmakelists?
20151205 08:27:38< iceiceice> i would do it like this:
20151205 08:27:39< iceiceice> https://github.com/cbeck88/mingw_lib_kit/blob/master/build_sdl2.sh#L23
20151205 08:27:45< iceiceice> ` -DSDL_RENDER=OFF`
20151205 08:28:14< iceiceice> or if you are using the cmake-gui it should be some option somewhere in there
20151205 08:28:41< iceiceice> vultraz: or try "-DDIRECTX=OFF"
20151205 08:28:50< vultraz> Ok
20151205 08:29:47< vultraz> That seems to work
20151205 08:32:44< vultraz> Now let's see if this builds
20151205 08:34:04< vultraz> blagghhh
20151205 08:35:21< vultraz> 16>LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file '..\Debug\flatui.lib'
20151205 08:35:22< vultraz> 15>LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file '..\Debug\flatui.lib'
20151205 08:35:24< vultraz> :(
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20151205 08:37:38< vultraz> no spaces there, so...
20151205 08:42:24< vultraz> yeah I have no idea :|
20151205 08:44:53< vultraz> Aginor: any idea what to do in a case like this?
20151205 08:46:08< Aginor> vultraz: use linux
20151205 08:46:14< vultraz> ;_;
20151205 08:46:36< Aginor> bah
20151205 08:46:42< Aginor> trying to write code when tired is hard
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20151205 08:52:46< iceiceice> Aginor: do or do not, there is no try
20151205 08:52:50< iceiceice> :)
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20151205 09:03:55< vultraz> "warning treated as error - no 'object' file generated"
20151205 09:03:57< vultraz> hmm
20151205 09:07:06< vultraz> Ok, let me try without that
20151205 09:09:12< vultraz> turning off WX seems to make it build fine
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