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20160108 00:55:41< celticminstrel> 'lo jimlun 
20160108 00:56:48< jimlun> celticminstrel: ohai
20160108 00:59:30< jimlun> After playing this game for about 1 hour, I got the LotR idea. It's a pretty obvious idea. So I googled, and read through the 4-5 threads that covered the subject of a LotR add-on. I know they all said "nope, never", but that was like 10 years ago so why not ask: did anyone ever end up making a LotR add-on for others (i.e. me) to use? :) 
20160108 00:59:48< jimlun> (on the wesnoth forums)
20160108 01:00:04< celticminstrel> Not that I know of, and if they did, it wouldn't (shouldn't) be on the addon server.
20160108 01:00:38< jimlun> Yeah, I got that much. I didn't expect to find it there, which is why I thought I'd have better luck here ^^
20160108 01:00:58< celticminstrel> I don't know of anything, sorry.
20160108 01:01:19< jimlun> thanks anyway. 
20160108 01:01:32< jimlun> So, my fiancée keeps beating me. How do I learn this game quickly? :D
20160108 01:01:42< jimlun> is wiki the place to start?
20160108 01:01:53< celticminstrel> In multiplayer?
20160108 01:02:22< celticminstrel> There's a manual, if you like that sort of thing.
20160108 01:02:25< jimlun> Yeah. She's been playing it locally with her brother growing up. Now she made me play it, and I hate losing.
20160108 01:02:44< celticminstrel> There's also online help in the game itself.
20160108 01:03:16< celticminstrel> Maybe you can find advice here or on the forums.
20160108 01:03:23< jimlun> Mmm yeah. I got the basics of the game down, like the rules and how the different units behave.
20160108 01:03:43< jimlun> Looking more for strategic tips or gameplans.
20160108 01:04:00< jimlun> I'll look at the manual :)
20160108 01:04:22< celticminstrel> One thing that's important is paying attention to where and (if not neutral) when you attack.
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20160108 01:04:53< celticminstrel> (If both you and your opponent are neutral, when is irrelevant.)
20160108 01:05:33< jimlun> Yeah. That's good advice. I noticed I got stuck in fights in the wrong time of day, so I was aware of the problem. But my opponent is sneaky.
20160108 01:05:36< jimlun> :p
20160108 01:06:04< jimlun> by where, I suppose you mean the 20-70% terrain stuff.
20160108 01:06:08< celticminstrel> Yes.
20160108 01:06:33< jimlun> also, I've been trying to start learning the diff type of attacks (pierce, arcane etc)
20160108 01:06:48< celticminstrel> And what sorts of things are weak to each, right?
20160108 01:06:53< jimlun> exactly
20160108 01:06:53< celticminstrel> That's good to know too.
20160108 01:07:02< jimlun> It's a lot to learn though ^^
20160108 01:07:19< celticminstrel> Like horses are weak to pierce, undead are weak to arcane and fire, skeletons to impact, etc.
20160108 01:07:36< celticminstrel> I don't actually know what's weak to blade.
20160108 01:07:53< jimlun> It's like Rock-Paper-Scissors took all the drugs at once. So many combinations to learn.
20160108 01:07:58< celticminstrel> Heh.
20160108 01:08:24< jimlun> iirc, the wolves don't like blades
20160108 01:08:38< jimlun> idk
20160108 01:08:46< jimlun> I've played what, 6 full games.
20160108 01:09:15< celticminstrel> You don't have to memorize it all though. The game gives you a lot of information when you go to consider an attack, and of course you can try multiple attackers before deciding which to use.
20160108 01:09:44< jimlun> Naturally.
20160108 01:10:21< jimlun> But it helps to have the units standing in the right place to begin with, which is why having the knowledge would be good.
20160108 01:10:37< jimlun> I'll learn by doing rather than trying to learn it all at once though :p
20160108 01:11:06< celticminstrel> Maybe trying a campaign would help.
20160108 01:11:24< celticminstrel> Maps for campaigns tend to be a lot less patchwork than multiplayer maps though.
20160108 01:11:32< jimlun> I did start playing campaign. The top one. It's pretty fun, but takes so much time.
20160108 01:11:38< celticminstrel> HTTT, right?
20160108 01:11:50< jimlun> sure, absolutely. (I have no idea :D)
20160108 01:11:55< celticminstrel> Konrad.
20160108 01:12:00< jimlun> It had many scenarios though, like 17 or 23.
20160108 01:12:05< jimlun> yeah, Konrad.
20160108 01:12:51< celticminstrel> HTTT: Heir To The Throne
20160108 01:13:17< jimlun> Ah,.
20160108 01:15:43< jimlun> A chess mod would be fun. (Essentially just making chess look like wesnoth). But I'll assume the hex tiles are impossible to change to squares.
20160108 01:15:54< celticminstrel> Yes.
20160108 01:16:33< jimlun> And doing the reverse is pointless too, (bringing the chess pieces to wesnoth universe), since there's too few different ones.
20160108 01:16:55< jimlun> Although I suppose maybe if you simply make a "Chess pieces" faction. Still seems pointless though.
20160108 01:16:59< celticminstrel> I wouldn't be surprised if someone did it anyway.
20160108 01:17:21< jimlun> couldn't find anything chess related on the add-on list just now
20160108 01:17:26< jimlun> lazily scrolled through it
20160108 01:17:45< celticminstrel> The 1.12 addon list, I assume.
20160108 01:18:26< celticminstrel> There's lists for 1.10, 1.8, 1.6, too. I dunno if it goes back any further than that.
20160108 01:18:42< jimlun> Hmm
20160108 01:18:56< jimlun> My game version is 1.10.7
20160108 01:19:00< celticminstrel> Oh.
20160108 01:19:08< celticminstrel> Then you'd be looking at the 1.10 list.
20160108 01:19:32< jimlun> I just typed in Wesnoth in the ubuntu software center and downloaded it ^^
20160108 01:22:15< jimlun> If I get a newer version of the game, will there be more people on the official server?
20160108 01:22:28< celticminstrel> Uhh.
20160108 01:22:39< celticminstrel> I don't know.
20160108 01:22:42< jimlun> There's usually only 1 or 2 games running when I look there.
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20160108 01:23:20< celticminstrel> Last I checked on the 1.12 official server (several months ago) my games list and user list were both overflowing.
20160108 01:23:50< jimlun> i.e. there's people there?
20160108 01:23:57< celticminstrel> I assume so.
20160108 01:24:02< celticminstrel> I don't go on much.
20160108 01:24:09< celticminstrel> I play more campaigns than multiplayer.
20160108 01:24:13< celticminstrel> When I play at all.
20160108 01:24:20< jimlun> 'kay
20160108 01:24:26< jimlun> I shall investigate
20160108 01:26:08< jimlun> Looks like I'll have to compile it, since my OS is relatively old. Another day.
20160108 01:27:25< celticminstrel> This should answer your question. https://wesnoth.org/cgi-bin/drraw/drraw.cgi?Mode=view;Dashboard=1381050100.25669
20160108 01:27:41< celticminstrel> Middle left is the server you're on.
20160108 01:28:08< celticminstrel> Top left you don't need to worry about.
20160108 01:28:55< jimlun> That page is asking me for username and password.
20160108 01:29:14< celticminstrel> Eh?
20160108 01:29:26< celticminstrel> When I loaded it just said I'm logging in as "guest".
20160108 01:29:31< jimlun> This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required.
20160108 01:29:41< jimlun> interesting. I tried to put in "guest" but it wouldn't let me do that ^^
20160108 01:29:51< jimlun> (the text did say "guest" doesn't require a password)
20160108 01:29:54< celticminstrel> I got to it from http://status.wesnoth.org/
20160108 01:30:01< jimlun> k, now it worked
20160108 01:30:02< celticminstrel> By clicking on "Server Statistics".
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20160108 08:02:34< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) We're looking at another development release later this month - stay tuned. #gamedev [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/685370998741336065 ]
20160108 08:09:51< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) .@frogatto should school us on tweeting interesting tweets. [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/685372831622770688 ]
20160108 08:16:12< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) Just realized we didn't write an end-of-the-year introspective. Internet sacrilege! #gamedev [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/685374427073130497 ]
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