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20160129 00:03:10< aeth> The UI's changing again?
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20160129 00:04:29< aeth> If it is, please consider drag and drop. That's as big a step forward as [set_menu_item] was to get RPG-style custom UIs in mods. Just about every real RPG has a drag and drop inventory system, which makes Wesnoth RPGs a bit awkward
20160129 00:08:00< shadowm> I don't see how you could draw that conclusion from anything I said. GUI2 has been around and incomplete since 2008.
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20160129 00:09:04< shadowm> gfgtdf and vultraz are doing what they can with it but it's still a technological dead-end. We just stick with it because we don't have the time or knowledge to implement/deploy anything better.
20160129 00:10:19< aeth> It wasn't from what you just said, it was from some things that were said a while back.
20160129 00:10:36< aeth> Iirc, about how GUI1 would be replaced first?
20160129 00:10:46< aeth> This was probably a few weeks ago. I guess it was out of context.
20160129 00:10:54< aeth> I haven't really been keeping up with Wesnoth.
20160129 00:10:55< shadowm> Well, I don't see anything relevant here for the past few days.
20160129 00:11:02< shadowm> Yeah, out of context all right.
20160129 00:20:57< aeth> whatever, I don't have time to argue, I have to fix motion in my game
20160129 00:21:23< aeth> As in literally, all motion. :p
20160129 00:21:39< aeth> Switching backends is never as trivial as it seems.
20160129 00:32:56< aeth> oops, it was a trivial thing to fix
20160129 00:47:04< janebot> wesnoth: Streaming some Wesnoth tonight! (by /u/BPRoberts) https://reddit.com/r/wesnoth/436cec
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20160129 07:56:44< Rhonda> vincent_c: Maybe I should upload to some PPA and invite people to test it.
20160129 07:58:09< vincent_c> sounds like a plan!
20160129 08:04:46< Rhonda> Have to pack for fosdem now though.
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20160129 15:26:18< vn971> Q: do I edit files like wesnoth/1.12/data/addons/MyAddon/macros by hand? The text from a plugin I donwloaded consists of blocks like [if], [variable] etc.
20160129 15:26:35< vn971> Or is this text generated from something else?
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20160129 15:43:06< zookeeper> vn971, yes, you edit it by hand
20160129 15:43:30< vn971> zookeeper: ok, thanks.)
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20160129 15:50:44< zookeeper> of course if you're actually going to edit/create anything much, you'll need to learn some of it: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ReferenceWML
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20160129 16:27:40< vn971> zookeeper: Yeah, although I already got familiar with it a bit by reading the examples.
20160129 16:27:40< vn971> (For the curious: 1. I have an outdated version of BfW from ubuntu. 2. I've read that there were important security fixes recently. 3. I decided to read all source code of the addons I downloaded, which I already did for 5-6 addons..)
20160129 16:27:40< vn971> But thanks for the link anyway.
20160129 16:29:13< vn971> // The most recent desire was to alter one addon a bit.
20160129 17:31:31< vn971> while choosing player settings like faction/income/AItype, is there any trick to apply the setting for all players?
20160129 17:31:31< vn971> It's kinda boring to create settings for 8 players, understand that you misconfigured something and spend time again to start the game.
20160129 17:32:20< vn971> It would be nice if, for example, holding Ctrl while selecting "income" would apply this to all players.
20160129 17:43:41< Ravana_> simple way to do this would be changing scenario file (replace all)
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20160129 18:10:14< zookeeper> vn971, eh, you mean in the map editor?
20160129 18:10:24 * zookeeper doesn't really know anything about how that stuff works there
20160129 18:12:32< vn971> zookeeper: while creating a new (offline) game.
20160129 18:12:43< zookeeper> ohh. duh. okay.
20160129 18:13:08< vn971> the last step where you chose fractions, players income etc
20160129 18:13:25< vn971> last step before starting the game.
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20160129 23:36:26< koz_> Are there any graphical mods for Wesnoth to make it look pretty?
20160129 23:36:37< koz_> s/Wesnoth/Battle for Wesnoth
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20160129 23:43:59< vn971> koz_: your question presumes default graphics does absolutely not look beautiful, to which I do not agree.:P
20160129 23:44:31< vn971> koz_: there are lots of addons which bring their separate unit and unit graphics tho.
20160129 23:45:27< vn971> * do
20160129 23:46:28< koz_> vn971: Well, aesthetics are unquantifiable and vary immensely. And I mean for the base game - I assume by 'addons' you mean extra factions etc?
20160129 23:47:26< vn971> koz_: sorry, I don't really get your question. By addons I mean addons. ("Add-ons".)
20160129 23:48:20< koz_> Alrighty, I'll investigate myself.
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