--- Log opened Mon Feb 01 00:00:35 2016 20160201 00:13:54-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f049111101.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160201 00:33:50-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20160201 00:52:17-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 01:51:06-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 02:10:06-!- fabi [~quassel@176.0.64.189] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 02:10:06-!- fabi [~quassel@176.0.64.189] has quit [Changing host] 20160201 02:10:06-!- fabi [~quassel@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 02:10:15-!- fabi [~quassel@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160201 02:26:22-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160201 02:59:26< shadowm> vultraz: "Community". 20160201 02:59:40< vultraz> what? 20160201 02:59:41< shadowm> That's the buzzword we need to use more, esp. in the trailer. 20160201 03:00:22< shadowm> "Community-created". "Community-supported". "Community-based". 20160201 03:00:51< shadowm> Communitying everything makes sense because that's what's made Wesnoth what it is, for good or for worse. 20160201 03:02:25< vultraz> No, that's going overboard 20160201 03:02:32< vultraz> We will mention it, but not every other sentence 20160201 03:03:12-!- prkc [~prkc@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/prkc] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160201 03:03:13< vultraz> For example 20160201 03:03:22< vultraz> "Thousands of registered players" or something 20160201 03:03:29< vultraz> Though that might sound like a shitty iOS game ad 20160201 03:03:33< shadowm> That doesn't say community. It needs more community. 20160201 03:05:26< shadowm> But more seriously, "player-created" doesn't sound as big as "community-created". 20160201 03:06:24< vultraz> I don't like the alliteration 20160201 03:07:03< shadowm> "Community-made". 20160201 03:07:12< shadowm> "Community-produced". 20160201 03:13:00< shadowm> Okay fine, I was just trying to make myself useful. 20160201 03:13:14< vultraz> I'll consider it 20160201 03:13:35< vultraz> I feel 'player' might convey to the watchers that they, as individual players, can make things 20160201 03:13:55< vultraz> As opposed to 'the community' making things 20160201 03:14:00< vultraz> Which is fine 20160201 03:14:16< vultraz> It works really well for Bethedsa games or stuff like Amnesia 20160201 03:14:36< vultraz> But we're more focused on the "average player who knows nothing about coding" 20160201 03:15:05< vultraz> Making a wesnoth campaign is infinitely easier than, say, making a good Skyrim quest 20160201 03:15:24< vultraz> You get what I'm saying? 20160201 03:17:24< shadowm> It is, until you realize that most people aren't content with using stock art. 20160201 03:17:39< shadowm> Then they resort to community-created resources like other add-ons etc. 20160201 03:18:27< vultraz> That's a thing in every modding community 20160201 03:20:46< vultraz> Custom assets are a mark of quality, actually 20160201 03:39:36-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20160201 03:41:16-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 04:07:09-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20160201 04:10:51-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 04:27:37-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160201 04:27:43-!- janebot_ [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 05:50:51-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 05:50:51-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org 20160201 05:50:51-!- Topic set by shadowm [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] [Sun Jan 17 05:24:23 2016] 20160201 05:50:51[Users #wesnoth-dev] 20160201 05:50:51[ _laco ] [ EliDupree_] [ legoktm ] [ shadowm ] 20160201 05:50:51[ aeonchild ] [ Elsi_ ] [ lobby ] [ shadowm_desktop] 20160201 05:50:51[ aeth ] [ esr ] [ Lohengramm ] [ shikadibot_ ] 20160201 05:50:51[ Aginor ] [ Gambit ] [ loonycyborg ] [ Soliton ] 20160201 05:50:51[ AI0867_ ] [ Greywhind ] [ matthiaskrgr] [ TC01 ] 20160201 05:50:51[ aidanhs ] [ heirecka ] [ midzer ] [ TheJJ ] 20160201 05:50:51[ Appleman1234 ] [ higgins ] [ molgrum_ ] [ timotei_ ] 20160201 05:50:51[ avtobiff ] [ Ivanovic ] [ new_one ] [ tomreyn ] 20160201 05:50:51[ celticminstrel ] [ iwaim ] [ nurupo ] [ vincent_c ] 20160201 05:50:51[ clavi ] [ janebot_ ] [ oldlaptop ] [ vultraz ] 20160201 05:50:51[ Crendgrim ] [ Jetrel ] [ pydsigner ] [ wedge009 ] 20160201 05:50:51[ crimson_penguin] [ Jetrel_bot] [ quentinp_ ] [ Yaiyan ] 20160201 05:50:51[ DDR ] [ kidneb ] [ Ravana_ ] [ ypnos ] 20160201 05:50:51[ elias ] [ knotwork_ ] [ Rhonda ] [ {V} ] 20160201 05:50:51-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 56 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 56 normal] 20160201 05:50:56-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 05:28:41 2009 20160201 05:51:54-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 70 secs 20160201 06:02:43-!- wedge010 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 06:06:15-!- wedge009 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160201 06:06:15-!- wedge010 is now known as wedge009 20160201 06:58:38-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6924EC35DE1809650C73BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 08:25:20-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 08:44:05-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20160201 09:07:08-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160201 09:20:45-!- zombah [~zombah@2a02:28:3:1:214:4fff:fe47:5920] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 09:21:56-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6924EC35DE1809650C73BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160201 09:52:09-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6924ECE4D6FCB040DA2AAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 10:29:26-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6924ECE4D6FCB040DA2AAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160201 10:39:32-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F692403E4D6FCB040DA2AAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 10:45:25-!- EdB [~edb@89-158-11-138.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 11:20:31-!- EdB [~edb@89-158-11-138.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20160201 11:52:56-!- louis94 [~~louis94@13.149-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 11:53:21-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@x4db6cf9c.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 12:24:53-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F692403E4D6FCB040DA2AAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160201 12:30:18-!- louis94 [~~louis94@13.149-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20160201 12:44:26-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6924034805023246C6FAA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 12:55:18-!- prkc [~prkc@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/prkc] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 13:20:45-!- wedge010 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 13:22:26-!- wedge009 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160201 13:22:26-!- wedge010 is now known as wedge009 20160201 14:29:00-!- horrowind [~Icedove@2a02:810a:8380:834:21b:fcff:fee3:c3ff] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 14:32:16-!- irker188 [~irker@uruz.ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 14:32:16< irker188> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:asio_wesnothd ae2ae3b487d3 / src/server/ (server.cpp server.hpp): Moved SIGINT and SIGTERM handling into asio event loop https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ae2ae3b487d3c8b81223787c9eda8a5ccef959b9 20160201 14:54:35< vultraz> shadowm: 581 ready for review again 20160201 15:05:55-!- pydsigner [~pydsigner@unaffiliated/pydsigner] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160201 15:07:51-!- pydsigner [~pydsigner@unaffiliated/pydsigner] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 15:08:43-!- horrowind [~Icedove@2a02:810a:8380:834:21b:fcff:fee3:c3ff] has quit [Quit: horrowind] 20160201 15:11:51-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 15:22:44-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-166-53-175.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 15:22:45< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#8357 (asio_wesnothd - ae2ae3b : loonycyborg): The build has errored. 20160201 15:22:45< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/106225056 20160201 15:22:45-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-166-53-175.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20160201 15:28:53< irker188> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master cb71b330e927 / projectfiles/CodeBlocks/README.md: Updated codeblocks build readme with updated last tested versions https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/cb71b330e927b6ca77c06e056ccfadf6cc695e62 20160201 15:50:35-!- prkc [~prkc@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/prkc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160201 16:05:40-!- prkc [~prkc@catv-80-99-66-25.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 16:13:20-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@50-37-38-205.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160201 16:26:56-!- zombah [~zombah@2a02:28:3:1:214:4fff:fe47:5920] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20160201 16:34:33-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-184-84.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 16:37:05-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-184-84.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20160201 16:41:39-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@50-37-38-205.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 17:17:38-!- prkc [~prkc@catv-80-99-66-25.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160201 17:17:46-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 17:30:09-!- prkc [~prkc@46.166.188.212] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 17:32:27-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6924034805023246C6FAA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160201 17:55:34-!- boucman_work [~jrosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 18:02:47-!- wedge010 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 18:05:44-!- wedge009 [~Thunderbi@60-241-236-92.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20160201 18:05:45-!- wedge010 is now known as wedge009 20160201 18:10:48-!- horrowind [~Icedove@2a02:810a:8380:834:21b:fcff:fee3:c3ff] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 18:28:49< irker188> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 96bd5ae98205 / data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Hornshark_Island_lua: Avoid errors if scenario is played with one of the sides empty https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/96bd5ae9820538c332ea0084b719ead2141cc65e 20160201 18:29:36-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@x4db6cf9c.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160201 18:31:24-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-184-84.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 18:34:34-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-184-84.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160201 18:41:10-!- boucman_work [~jrosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 20160201 18:59:35-!- janebot_ is now known as janebot 20160201 19:14:34-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 19:23:41-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20160201 19:25:43-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 19:29:56-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20160201 19:36:57-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 19:59:01< zookeeper> vultraz, was there a particular reason for the new debug unit create dialog to list all units in alphabetical order (instead of per race)? 20160201 20:01:06< zookeeper> secondly, it _should_ order them by name, but actually orders by id. which leads to weirdness when id != name 20160201 20:01:29< Ravana_> with 1.12 at least you can choose if its ordered by names or races, doesn't 1.13 retain that? 20160201 20:02:17< zookeeper> umm. yes, it does. i didn't notice :P 20160201 20:04:22< zookeeper> except that the sorting buttons are weirdly part of the scrollable area and thus disappear when you scroll down. 20160201 20:10:39< shadowm> Oh, so that's still a thing. 20160201 20:11:32< irker188> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master d3b356953b20 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/ (images/attacks/claws-crab.png units/monsters/Crab_Man.cfg): Recoloured pincers as attack icon for Monster Crab https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d3b356953b207475b69668323863901bfa4e717c 20160201 20:11:38< shadowm> That's really unfortunate, it doesn't make me feel much more confident about the 1.13.x GUI2 rush. 20160201 20:42:09< irker188> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 59ba795de4f6 / data/core/help.cfg: Mention lvl0 units as the exception to ZoC generation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/59ba795de4f6796dd52e5768f2a135b33ef84b63 20160201 21:00:07-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160201 21:02:05-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 21:33:42-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-159-185-215.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 21:33:43< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#8362 (master - 59ba795 : ln-zookeeper): The build has errored. 20160201 21:33:43< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/106315120 20160201 21:33:43-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-159-185-215.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20160201 21:35:53-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160201 21:36:29-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 21:40:36-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160201 21:43:44-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 21:48:39-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160201 21:49:59-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 21:52:39-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@cpe-74-136-45-198.kya.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 21:56:11-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 22:00:33-!- louis94 [~~louis94@13.149-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 22:08:04-!- louis94 [~~louis94@13.149-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20160201 22:11:16-!- horrowind [~Icedove@2a02:810a:8380:834:21b:fcff:fee3:c3ff] has quit [Quit: horrowind] 20160201 22:41:23-!- louis94 [~~louis94@13.149-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 23:01:51-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20160201 23:07:04< zookeeper> shadowm, blur_surface() looks intimidating, but assuming that one would be able to make it take alpha into consideration "right" (meaning that blurring a sprite wouldn't cause the blur borders getting dark or bright depending on what the background rgb is), can you think of any reason not to? 20160201 23:08:14< zookeeper> because at least when using ~BL() on a sprite, that happens 20160201 23:08:35< zookeeper> or maybe i should be looking at blur_alpha_surface() 20160201 23:08:43-!- prkc [~prkc@46.166.188.212] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160201 23:11:56-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD119104018151.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160201 23:13:08< shadowm> Performance, but yes. 20160201 23:14:10< shadowm> The thing is that ~BL() already uses blur_alpha_surface(). 20160201 23:15:25< zookeeper> yeah, but it looks like it doesn't weigh alpha "right" 20160201 23:16:28< shadowm> Can't help with that, all those functions are full of maths. 20160201 23:16:44< zookeeper> yes, they are :S 20160201 23:16:51< zookeeper> very uncomfortable looking math 20160201 23:21:35 * zookeeper also thinks ~BG() could have an optional alpha argument 20160201 23:22:16< zookeeper> (so you could, like, use it to set a semi-transparent bg, or to just fix the bg color for example for blurring purposes but keep it transparent) 20160201 23:27:56< shadowm> The latter sounds like an attempt to paper over a bug instead of fixing it. 20160201 23:28:13< shadowm> The former is a more reasonable justification. 20160201 23:30:12< zookeeper> sure 20160201 23:42:38-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20160201 23:42:48-!- irker188 [~irker@uruz.ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20160201 23:47:52-!- louis94 [~~louis94@13.149-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20160201 23:50:57-!- SpoOkyMagician_ [~chatzilla@cpe-74-136-45-198.kya.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160201 23:51:00-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160201 23:51:35-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@cpe-74-136-45-198.kya.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160201 23:51:42-!- SpoOkyMagician_ is now known as SpoOkyMagician --- Log closed Tue Feb 02 00:00:36 2016