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20160227 13:00:54< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) @jbmvl we don't need anything specific, but testing and bug reports (especially of development releases) is always useful. [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/703565467294703616 ]
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20160227 18:16:03< Yaiyan> Humm
20160227 18:16:15 * Yaiyan wonders how gaelic translated the yes/no strings
20160227 18:17:47< celticminstrel> I suppose that implies that the translation of those strings could be ambiguous.
20160227 18:18:01< Yaiyan> Aye
20160227 18:18:33< celticminstrel> Is Gaelic one of those languages that has a different word for "yes" depending on whether the question was phrased positively or negatively? Or maybe a language that altogether lacks a word for "yes"?
20160227 18:18:55< Yaiyan> I'm pretty sure it's like Welsh, in that the word for "yes" follows the verb in the question
20160227 18:19:31< celticminstrel> Is that sort of like responding to "Do you want it?" with "I want it"?
20160227 18:19:33< Yaiyan> Thinking of making a start on Welsh as I learn more of the language, so interested in how other celtic languages did it; probably went with the imperative form
20160227 18:19:36< Yaiyan> Yeah
20160227 18:20:19< Yaiyan> "Wyt ti eisiau hi" - Do you want it, would be responded with "Ydw" - I am
20160227 18:20:35< celticminstrel> Well, I don't know how they translated the yes/no strings, but if I were doing it for a language with that property I'd probably do something like using words for "accept" and "refuse".
20160227 18:21:19< Yaiyan> That's true
20160227 18:21:44< Yaiyan> Imperative would probably work to, as I expect most places where it comes up would be with an imperative statement
20160227 18:23:26< Yaiyan> Irish just went with the Yes I am form, apparently
20160227 18:39:34< celticminstrel> French is an example of the former category - you would respond to "Vous le voulez?" with "oui", but you would respond to "Vous ne le voulez?" with "si". (Not sure if that's the idiomatic way of asking that question, but it gets the general idea across, hopefully.)
20160227 18:44:01< Yaiyan> Oh huh, never knew French had any more than just oui/non
20160227 18:44:13< Yaiyan> I think English used to have that system too
20160227 18:45:22< celticminstrel> I'm not sure, it's possible that "si" in French is falling out of use.
20160227 18:45:35< celticminstrel> (That usage of "si", that is. Obviously its usage as "if" wouldn't be.)
20160227 18:45:52< celticminstrel> But it does exist.
20160227 18:46:22< celticminstrel> English used to have that kind of system?
20160227 18:47:38< Yaiyan> I was reading a while ago about yea/nea being affirmative, and yes/no being for negatives
20160227 18:47:56< celticminstrel> Ah, I might've heard about this somewhere too.
20160227 18:48:02< celticminstrel> Now that you mention it.
20160227 18:48:44< celticminstrel> As far as I know, French doesn't have the distinction for "non", though.
20160227 18:49:22< Yaiyan> Hmm, interesting
20160227 18:49:43< Yaiyan> I guess you only need it for yes to have the extra clarity
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20160227 22:20:05-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Wesnoth User Channel | http://wesnoth.org | Latest stable version: 1.12.5 | Latest development version: 1.13.2 | Check the upness of Wesnoth servers: http://status.wesnoth.org | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: https://bpaste.net
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