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20160319 19:27:02< Kwandulin> Uggghh, so people are still using 1.10.5? https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=595139#p595139
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20160319 19:33:52< DeFender1031> Kwandulin, seems to me like this user just doesn't know how to find thei userdata
20160319 19:38:53< Ravana_> thats why I mentioned the button too
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20160319 19:43:10< DeFender1031> makes sense
20160319 19:48:37< DeFender1031> i'm signing up for the forum. Two questions: 1. the legal disclaimer (which I actually read) mentions applicable laws "in the country in which Battle For Wesnoth is hosted" but doesn't specify what country that is. I assume it's not in an oppressive country which doesn't allow speech, say, criticizing its leaders, and I don't intend to post anything which is in violations of laws in the free world, but just in case, what country 
20160319 19:48:38< DeFender1031> IS it hosted in? 2. what's this "security phrase" thing asking me to put in the first three characters of my username and last three of my password? is this legit? what does this accomplish?
20160319 20:00:27< celticminstrel> A DNS lookup shows that wesnoth.org's IP is in Germany.
20160319 20:01:09< celticminstrel> I have no idea about 2; I don't remember that existing when I was there, but it sounds highly suspicious if it's asking for part of your password.
20160319 20:01:52 * celticminstrel pings shadowm, hoping he has an explanation or knows who does.
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20160319 20:13:45< Ravana_> I guess the password part is legit, it was there when I joined
20160319 20:19:00< Ravana_> as for its purpose, I guess it helps to reduce bot joins
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20160319 20:26:38< loonycyborg> DeFender1031: wesnoth's current hosting company is based in Germany
20160319 20:27:49< loonycyborg> I'm not sure about security phrase, seems like ad hoc measure against scripted creation of accounts..
20160319 20:28:20< DeFender1031> so no posting neonazi propaganda on wesnoth forums... i think i can manage that. :P
20160319 20:28:58< DeFender1031> Ravana_, ah, that actually makes sense... its like a super captcha which a bot wouldn't necessarily know how to handle... interesting
20160319 20:32:44< Kwandulin> Aaaaand welcome to the forums
20160319 21:03:30< DeFender1031> thank you!
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20160319 21:16:04< celticminstrel> Ravana_: I disagree, it shouldn't be asking you about your password no matter what.
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20160319 21:28:41< DeFender1031> celticminstrel, to be fair, it's asking on exactly the same page as you're already inputting your password
20160319 21:29:00< celticminstrel> But I bet it's a cleartext field.
20160319 21:29:05< DeFender1031> it "feels" wrong, but really, you're alreay inputting your whole password
20160319 21:29:07< DeFender1031> it's not
20160319 21:29:22< celticminstrel> Indeed, if it wasn't on the same page, it wouldn't be able to do that, since once you leave the page your password is forgotten.
20160319 21:29:25< DeFender1031> and even if it were, that only matters if someone is looking over your shoulder.
20160319 21:29:46< DeFender1031> right
20160319 21:29:47< celticminstrel> Hmm, okay. I still don't like it, but I guess it's not as bad as it first sounded.
20160319 21:31:57< DeFender1031> like i said, it sounds strange, but it's not actually any worse than the fact that you're already inputting your whole password already, and actually makes some amount of sense. It would probably be better if it were, say, the first three characters of the username and last three of the email address instead, but whatever.
20160319 21:32:06< DeFender1031> s/better/more comfortable
20160319 21:35:37< celticminstrel> Yeah, that would be more comfortable.
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20160319 22:13:35< shadowm> DeFender1031: 1) Germany. 2) Yes, it's legit and it's supposed to thwart automated registrations.
20160319 22:14:01< shadowm> celticminstrel: It's no more unsafe than the password field itself.
20160319 22:14:29< celticminstrel> We already answered #1 though. :P
20160319 22:14:40< celticminstrel> You have a point, but still, it feels uncomfortable.
20160319 22:14:57< shadowm> I know, but I felt I still needed to answer since I'm the latest author of the code behind (2).
20160319 22:15:24< shadowm> Would you feel less uncomfortable if it included a free hug and a box of chocolates?
20160319 22:15:42< celticminstrel> XD
20160319 22:15:45< celticminstrel> Sorry, no.
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